All-Time AFC East Team

[YardRat]

From the merger on, including Baltimore/Indy up until the point of re-alignment...

QB-Tom Brady
RB-Thurman Thomas, Larry Csonka
WR-Andre Reed, Paul Warfield
TE-John Mackey
Oline-John Hannah, Dwight Stephenson, Larry Little, Will Wolford, Winston Hill

DE-Bruce Smith, Ted Hendricks
DT-Joe Klecko, Fred Smerlas
OLB-Cornelius Bennett, Andre Tippet
MLB-Nick Bouniconti
CB-Mike Haynes, Jake Anderson
S-Jake Scott, Raymond Clayborn

P-Reggie Roby
PK-Adam Vinieteri
ST-Steve Tasker
KR-Fulton Walker

Head Coach-Don Shula

Anybody have anything different??

[YardRat]

****. Clayborn was a corner, wasn't he?

I'll replace Anderson with him, but now I need another safety....Any ideas??

[Mitchy moo]

QB- Marino
RB- Ricky Willams (he likes pot)
WR- Mark Duper, Andre reed
TE- Pete Metz........
OL- Wolford
DT- Fred Smer....
OLB- The biscuit,
MLB- Nick Bo.....
CB- J. Anderson

I'll stop there because you messed up but -

Head Coach- Marv Levy

[feelthepain]

QB- Marino
RB- Tomlinson
WR- Mark Duper, Andre reed
TE- Pete Metz........
OL- Wolford
DT- Fred Smer....
OLB- The biscuit,
MLB- Nick Bo.....
CB- J. Anderson

I'll stop there because you messed up but -

Head Coach- Marv Levy

Tomlinson???

And you'd take Levy who never won a SB over the coach of perfect season and two SB titles who just hapens to be the winingest coach in football history?? Wow... I guess you don't get the concept of this thread.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Tomlinson???
Yeah really. Wrong division.

Put OJ in there instead. :couch:

[Mitchy moo]

Tomlinson???

And you'd take Levy who never won a SB over the coach of perfect season and two SB titles who just hapens to be the winingest coach in football history?? Wow... I guess you don't get the concept of this thread.

It was kinda like a joke, so in honor of your talented team I took Ricky. He is a all-time drug addict.

Marv also took his team to the show 4 years in a row and they we're good for years before that as well.

Marv

1988 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1988.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1988.htm) | 12 4 0 | 1 1 |
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1989.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 1 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1990.htm) | 13 3 0 | 2 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1991.htm) | 13 3 0 | 2 1 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1992.htm) | 11 5 0 | 3 1 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1993.htm) | 12 4 0 | 2 1 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1994.htm) | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1995.htm) | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
| 1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1996.htm) | 10 6 0 | 0 1 |
| 1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1997.htm) | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 103 57 0 | 11 8

Shula

1986 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1986.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1986.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1987 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1987.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1987.htm) | 8 7 0 | 0 0 |
| 1988 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1988.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1988.htm) | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1989.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1990.htm) | 12 4 0 | 1 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1991.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1992.htm) | 11 5 0 | 1 1 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1993.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 0 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1994.htm) | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
| 1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1995.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 1 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 89 70 0 | 19 17 |

This is the last 10 years of their careers, notice a difference??

The 60', 70's, don't mean Sheet to me nor can many folks remember that time.

[Dr. Lecter]

As much as it sickens me, I might take Satan at coach over Shula.

[hammerbillsfan]

this thread already...

http://www.conference-cast.com/inova/mens_health/images/people/car.crash.jpg

[Devin]

QB:Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB:Thurman Thomas (Bills)
FB:Larry Csonka (Dolphins)
WR: Andre Reed (Bills), Don Maynard (Jets)
TE: Ben Coates (Patriots)
OT: Larry Little (Dolphins)
OG: Joe DeLamielleure (Bills)
C:Kent Hull (Bills)
OG: John Hannah (Patriots)
OT: Richmond Webb (Dolphins)

DE: Bruce Smith (Bills)
DE: Jason Taylor (Dolphins)
DT: Fred Smerlas (Bills)
DT: Joe Klecko (Jets)
OLB: Cornelius Bennett (Bills)
MLB: Nick Bouniconti (Dolphins)
OLB: Ted Hendricks (Colts)
CB: Mike Haynes (Patriots)
CB: Ty Law (Patriots)
SS: Dick Anderson (Dolphins)
FS: Jake Scott (Dolphins)

P: Brian Moorman (Bills)
PK: Adam Vinateri (Patriots)
ST: Steve Tasker (Bills)
KR: Fulton Walker (Dolphins)


Head Coach: Bill Belichek (Patriots)

[feelthepain]

It was kinda like a joke, so in honor of your talented team I took Ricky. He is a all-time drug addict.

Marv also took his team to the show 4 years in a row and they we're good for years before that as well.

Marv

1988 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1988.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1988.htm) | 12 4 0 | 1 1 |
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1989.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 1 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1990.htm) | 13 3 0 | 2 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1991.htm) | 13 3 0 | 2 1 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1992.htm) | 11 5 0 | 3 1 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1993.htm) | 12 4 0 | 2 1 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1994.htm) | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1995.htm) | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
| 1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1996.htm) | 10 6 0 | 0 1 |
| 1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997.htm) buf (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1997.htm) | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 103 57 0 | 11 8

Shula

1986 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1986.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1986.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1987 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1987.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1987.htm) | 8 7 0 | 0 0 |
| 1988 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1988.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1988.htm) | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1989.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1990.htm) | 12 4 0 | 1 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1991.htm) | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1992.htm) | 11 5 0 | 1 1 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1993.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 0 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1994.htm) | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
| 1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995.htm) mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1995.htm) | 9 7 0 | 0 1 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 89 70 0 | 19 17 |

This is the last 10 years of their careers, notice a difference??

The 60', 70's, don't mean Sheet to me nor can many folks remember that time.

Shula went to three SB's in a row, and won 2 of them back to back with a perfect season included, he also lead the Colts to a SB, but you'd rather have a coach who couldn't win a SB and doesn't come close to Shula in career wins?? K...... like I said, you don't get the concept of this thread. I respect Marv and his ability to coach, but he doesn't even come close to what Shula accomplished in the NFL.

[Devin]

Look I love Levy as much as anyone but moving him above the devil or Shula is nuts.

[Statman]

The fact that everyone here would take Thurman over Martin is telling enough.

[Devin]

The fact that everyone here would take Thurman over Martin is telling enough.

There are literally 5-6 RB's off the top my head that could easily be here.

And you could likely make a case for anyone of them. I changed mine 3 times before keeping Thurman. I originally went with OJ, then Eric Dickerson, then to Thomas.

I just felt him to be the best all around threat. Ill gladly admit im a little partial. FTP or Bling or other fin fans could likely name a ton of Fin players that could fit.

Everyone has an opinion.

[Pinkerton Security]

QB - jp losman (bills)
RB - marshawn lynch (bills)
fb - brian leonard (bills)
wr - lee evans, dwayne jarrett (bills)
te - zach miller (bills)
ol - whoever starts for the bills next year (bills)

de - bruce smith(comeback baby!), aaron schobel (bills)
dt - mccargo and kyle williams (bills)
mlb - london fletcher (bills)
olb - tko, ellison (bills)
cb - mcgee, youboty (bills)
fs - ko (bills)
ss - whitner (bills)

p - moorman (bills)
k - lindell (bills)
st - josh stamer (bills)
kr - mcgee (bills)

i dont see how anyone on here can make an argument....







one can dream, right??

[LtFinFan66]

:rofl:

[YardRat]

RB was tough...Martin, Dickerson, etc could be there with little argument. I had thought of Coates at TE also, but gave the edge to Mackey. Maynard, also, but I couldn't remember him playing after the merger.

A lot of quality guards over the years in this division, not so with tackles on either side of the line, which I found interesting.

I hated choosing between DS and BB, but had to :mad:. If we had one just one of the four, I may have homered-up and taken Levy.

[LtFinFan66]

Hey Yard, who is Jake Anderson??

[YardRat]

Hey Yard, who is Jake Anderson??

Dick's brother :D.

I made a couple of mistakes trying to go just off of memory.

[Devin]

RB was tough...Martin, Dickerson, etc could be there with little argument. I had thought of Coates at TE also, but gave the edge to Mackey. Maynard, also, but I couldn't remember him playing after the merger.

A lot of quality guards over the years in this division, not so with tackles on either side of the line, which I found interesting.

I hated choosing between DS and BB, but had to :mad:. If we had one just one of the four, I may have homered-up and taken Levy.

I changed a few of mine. RB/WR you could make a case for quite a few players. QB Its really down to Unitas/Marino/Brady imo.

As for OL I had to throw Richmond Webb in there, that guy was a beast.

[LtFinFan66]

Dick's brother :D.

I made a couple of mistakes trying to go just off of memory.I thought maybe you put Jake Scott and Dick Anderson together

[jamze132]

I don't know how anyone can leave off Jason Taylor at DE. I think he and Bruce Smith would be a pretty formidable duo.

And let's not foget about Brian Cox! He was "loved" in Buffalo!

[Dr. Lecter]

The fact that everyone here would take Thurman over Martin is telling enough.

Thurman was a better all around back.

Martin was not the receiver or blocker Thurman was.

[BillsNick]

QB:Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB:Thurman Thomas (Bills)
FB:Larry Csonka (Dolphins)
WR: Andre Reed (Bills), Don Maynard (Jets)
TE: Ben Coates (Patriots)
OT: Larry Little (Dolphins)
OG: Joe DeLamielleure (Bills)
C:Kent Hull (Bills)
OG: John Hannah (Patriots)
OT: Richmond Webb (Dolphins)

DE: Bruce Smith (Bills)
DE: Jason Taylor (Dolphins)
DT: Fred Smerlas (Bills)
DT: Joe Klecko (Jets)
OLB: Cornelius Bennett (Bills)
MLB: Nick Bouniconti (Dolphins)
OLB: Ted Hendricks (Colts)
CB: Mike Haynes (Patriots)
CB: Ty Law (Patriots)
SS: Dick Anderson (Dolphins)
FS: Jake Scott (Dolphins)

P: Brian Moorman (Bills)
PK: Adam Vinateri (Patriots)
ST: Steve Tasker (Bills)
KR: Fulton Walker (Dolphins)


Head Coach: Bill Belichek (Patriots)

I agree %100

[patmoran2006]

Booker Moore is the best RB in the history of this division, and nobody could run a flag or quick slant quite like Perry Tuttle. Defensively, nobody brought the noise like safety Bill Simpson, and if Erik Flowers got a lane to the quarterback, he was done for.

[patmoran2006]

QB:Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB:Thurman Thomas (Bills)
FB:Larry Csonka (Dolphins)
WR: Andre Reed (Bills), Don Maynard (Jets)
TE: Ben Coates (Patriots)
OT: Larry Little (Dolphins)
OG: Joe DeLamielleure (Bills)
C:Kent Hull (Bills)
OG: John Hannah (Patriots)
OT: Richmond Webb (Dolphins)

DE: Bruce Smith (Bills)
DE: Jason Taylor (Dolphins)
DT: Fred Smerlas (Bills)
DT: Joe Klecko (Jets)
OLB: Cornelius Bennett (Bills)
MLB: Nick Bouniconti (Dolphins)
OLB: Ted Hendricks (Colts)
CB: Mike Haynes (Patriots)
CB: Ty Law (Patriots)
SS: Dick Anderson (Dolphins)
FS: Jake Scott (Dolphins)

P: Brian Moorman (Bills)
PK: Adam Vinateri (Patriots)
ST: Steve Tasker (Bills)
KR: Fulton Walker (Dolphins)


Head Coach: Bill Belichek (Patriots)
Very very good list.. But there is no way that Kent Hull would get the nod at center over Dwight Stephenson. His is a HOF center for the Fins, and one of the game's best ever interior linemen.
But

[patmoran2006]

Id also have Andre Tippett at LB over Hendricks, and possibly Bruce Armstrong over little at tackle.

Makes for good discussion anyway

[LtFinFan66]

Hey Pat...who is Booker Moore?? I could not find any stats for him

[Dr. Lecter]

Bills 1st round pick in 1981 from Penn State. He developed a nerve disease (Guillan-barre syndrome) his rookie year and never panned out.

[YardRat]

I'm adjusting mine for accuracy...

QB-Tom Brady
RB-Thurman Thomas, Larry Csonka
WR-Andre Reed, Don Maynard
TE-John Mackey
Oline-John Hannah, Dwight Stephenson, Larry Little, Will Wolford, Winston Hill

DE-Bruce Smith, Jason Taylor
DT-Joe Klecko, Fred Smerlas
OLB-Cornelius Bennett, Ted Hendricks
MLB-Nick Bouniconti
CB-Mike Haynes, Raymond Clayborn
S-Jake Scott, Dick Anderson

P-Reggie Roby
PK-Adam Vinieteri
ST-Steve Tasker
KR-Fulton Walker

Head Coach-Don Shula

---------------------------

Mostly just switching positions because I had a couple backwards, but I had thought of Maynard and couldn't remember if he played past the merger or not. Moving Hendricks to OLB allowed me to put in Jason Taylor, although in all honesty I wouldn't put him in the same category as Smith, and have this gnawing feeling there has to be another DE in the last 35 years to replace him on the list (Gastinuea is the only other one I can think of, but he was such a dick).

Clayborn and Anderson I'll keep, just in their proper positions, though Law would fit in just as well at corner.

I like my offensive line...Hill and Wolford as the bookends, Hannah and Little inside (Larry was a guard), and Stephenson in the middle. Bruce Armstrong is a good point though, and I could see replacing Wolford with him.

[Mr. Pink]

QB-Joe Willie Namath, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning
RB-Eric Dickerson, Thurman Thomas, Freeman McNeil
WR-Mark Duper, Paul Warfield, Andre Reed, Irving Fryar
TE-Ben Coates, Mickey Shuler
Oline-John Hannah, Dwight Stephenson, Larry Little, Will Wolford, Winston Hill

DE-Mark Gastineau, Bruce Smith
DT-Joe Klecko, Ted Washington
OLB-Cornelius Bennett, John Offerdahl
MLB-Nick Bouniconti, Jonathan Vilma
CB-Sam Madison, Nate Odomes, Ty Law, Raymond Clayborne
S-Jake Scott, Ronnie Lott

P-Reggie Roby
PK-Adam Viniateri
ST-Steve Tasker
KR-Troy Brown
Head Coach-Don Shula