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Michael82
02-23-2007, 05:24 PM
Buffalo receives....
G Curtis Joseph
D Derek Morris

Phoenix receives....
G Martin Biron
RW Ales Kotalik

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=5691

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 05:35 PM
In two freaking seconds. We have more than enough depth at forward!

Nighthawk
02-23-2007, 05:42 PM
Darcy...pull the trigger on that one if it is on the table!

mchurchfie
02-23-2007, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't be in such a hurry to get rid of Kotalik. He has one of the best shots on the team and his absence is apparent in the shootouts. Who is Morris, any good?

Ebenezer
02-23-2007, 05:46 PM
I hope this would free up some cap room in order for them to make other trades. I don't see the advantage to Buffalo.

<pre>
Player GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S %
Morris, Derek 61 4 7 11 -11 85 0 0 0 0 100 004.0

GP W L T TOI GA GAA SOG SV SV% SO ENG
40 14 21 1 2169 113 03.13 1109 996 089.8 3 4

mchurchfie
02-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Morris is -11?:ill:

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 05:49 PM
Eb Derek Morris is easily a top 4 defenseman on our team. He is stuck on a craphole Phoenix team. He adds a little bit of everything as he can muck it up a bit and has decent offensive skills. Kotalik has been average this year and can be easily replaced by Stafford IMO. Sure he is an ace on the penalty shot but how much good would that do us in the playoffs?

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 05:51 PM
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Ebenezer
02-23-2007, 05:52 PM
to be fair:

<pre>
Year Team Games G A PTs PP SH GW +/- PIM
2002-03 Colorado 75 11 37 48 9 0 7 16 68

Ebenezer
02-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Eb Derek Morris is easily a top 4 defenseman on our team. He is stuck on a craphole Phoenix team. He adds a little bit of everything as he can muck it up a bit and has decent offensive skills. Kotalik has been average this year and can be easily replaced by Stafford IMO. Sure he is an ace on the penalty shot but how much good would that do us in the playoffs?
I was only going by this years stats...check out my previous post...his numbers look good. He's 6 foot 208...27 of his 51 career goals have been on the PP :eek: this could be just the type of deal where Darcy pickpockets another owner. :up:

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Morris would be a huge pickup. He was actually the centerpiece of the deal that Calgary used to trade for Drury back like 5 years ago.

Ebenezer
02-23-2007, 05:56 PM
Morris would be a huge pickup. He was actually the centerpiece of the deal that Calgary used to trade for Drury back like 5 years ago.
yeah, it appears when he was with Colorado he was pretty good...why did they ditch him into Coyote-land????

BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
02-23-2007, 05:57 PM
It's not it's another one of Eklund's stupid rumors :rolleyes: I saw the same trade on another board. Plus last night Darcy had another Press Conf. he just got back from the GM's meatings and Jim Lorentz was saying that all these players that we have injured are going to be back for the playoffs so we only have Gaustad's :$: and if the Sabres do make a trade it's going to be dollar for dollar. With that said I don't see us making a trade.

Ebenezer
02-23-2007, 05:59 PM
It's not it's another one of Eklund's stupid rumors :rolleyes: I saw the same trade on another board. Plus last night Darcy had another Press Conf. he just got back from the GM's meatings and Jim Lorentz was saying that all these players that we have injured are going to be back for the playoffs so we only have Gaustad's :$: and if the Sabres do make a trade it's going to be dollar for dollar. With that said I don't see us making a trade.
what are Morris and Joseph's contracts :idunno:

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Well the trade mentioned would equal out dollar for dollar dude.

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Morris has a fairly high one from what I remember.

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:06 PM
Morris is signed through 2009 and makes about $3.9 mil per season. Doesn't look financially equal to me.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/

Michael82
02-23-2007, 06:07 PM
If there is anyway we could pull this off, I would love the trade! I was worried about trading for forward depth, but after seeing how all our Rochester guys have been playing...plus knowing that all the hurt guys will be back, I'd Darcy protect the Sabres from running into the same problem as last year. The defensemen are wayyy too raw in Rochester and there is no one worth a damn right now. I think that a solid defensemen like Morris is exactly what we could use as insurance. Plus he'd probably be better than most of our other defensemen. :D

Oh plus, CuJo would cover our asses for trading Biron. :up:

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Morris is signed through 2009 and makes about $3.9 mil per season. Doesn't look financially equal to me.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/
How much is Cujo making? I would have thought it was fairly low. Biron is like 2.1 and Kotalik is close to 2 also right?

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:11 PM
He's pretty much the Coyotes' fourth D-man, behind Jovie, Michalek and Ballard (I'd like him back)

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:13 PM
How much is Cujo making? I would have thought it was fairly low. Biron is like 2.1 and Kotalik is close to 2 also right?

According to that link, Cujo's cap hit this year is $2.9 mil.

Kotalik's is $2.3, Biron is about $2.2

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:14 PM
The more I look at it, the more I don't like it ... sounds like the Coyotes trying to unload a guy who's not living up to his salary

camelcowboy
02-23-2007, 06:18 PM
I'd take morris in a heart beat. He was great in Calgary's cup run.

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 06:25 PM
The more I look at it, the more I don't like it ... sounds like the Coyotes trying to unload a guy who's not living up to his salary
I would still take Morris but I had no idea Cujo was still making that much. What the ****....

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:26 PM
Is a No. 4 defenseman worth $3.9 million? If we want to re-sign our captains, we're going to have to be frugal elsewhere.

camelcowboy
02-23-2007, 06:35 PM
Is a No. 4 defenseman worth $3.9 million? If we want to re-sign our captains, we're going to have to be frugal elsewhere.

If you want to win a cup, it would help towards that alot.

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:49 PM
As has been pointed out, we can't afford this trade anyway.

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:51 PM
There are several D-men on the block just as good that are more affordable.

THATHURMANATOR
02-23-2007, 06:53 PM
Hmmm. You may be right Philapage...

Philagape
02-23-2007, 06:56 PM
These rumor blogs would be more credible if they did like 2 minutes of research.

Philagape
02-23-2007, 07:09 PM
Here's a Coyotes fan thread on Morris:

http://www.coyotescorner.net/viewtopic.php?t=4952&sid=1cb7f099311ae573144d77bc31459c7d