Kelsays Deal Numbers

[gr8slayer]

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10023999

Yet another sign of the big money that is going to be thrown around starting March 2. The Bills re-signed defensive end Chris Kelsay to a four-year, $24 million deal that includes $13 million worth of guaranteed money.

[gr8slayer]

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Not bad at all. Only $13 million guaranteed? That's nothing.

[Carlton Bailey]

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I am going to vomit.

[gr8slayer]

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I am going to vomit.

[ZacGriffi~82]

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Yeah, only 13 mil. guaranteed is a nice deal.

[Carlton Bailey]

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Not bad at all. Only $13 million guaranteed? That's nothing.

Are you serious? For an average player? That counts against the cap, right?

[gr8slayer]

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Are you serious? For an average player? That counts against the cap, right?

ONLY $13 MILLION GUARANTEED! That's $3.25 MILLION A YEAR. Not too ****ing bad. If he does well enough to get the rest then it's a damn good thing we re-signed him.

Edit: Posted it before you edited your post.

[Ickybaluky]

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I'm sorry, but $13M guaranteed and $6M per season for Chris Kelsey is friggin' nuts. That guy may be a decent player, but he doesn't deserve that kind of guaranteed cash.

If I'm Aaron Schobel right now, I'm holding out.

[Tatonka]

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if this is his contract numbers, 4 years, with 13 guarenteed.. all the people that have been ****ting themselves should feel dumb.. that is ridiculously low for a starting defensive end.

[X-Era]

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http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10023999

23 mill?

OK, so weve spent 23 out of 39 in OUR minds. That leaves us only 16 left.

Again, Im not sure that the common assumptions about our cap to cash statements are true. I dont think they mean the entire contract counts now, I think its more about paying upfront rather than backloading.

[patmoran2006]

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This is the SINGLE WORST DEAL the Bills have signed a player too this DECADE when it comes to salary and performance.. NOT ONE Of the worst.. The ABSOLUTE WORST bar ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..

1- This should make Schobel hold out.. I sure as **** would if I was him..
2- Kelsay just got paid not only #1 DE money, but he got paid top third of the NFL #1 DE money.. $6 million per, $13 million guarenteed to a one dimensional pass rusher who is God awful against the run.
3- Drafting 12th we could have had a much better all-around DE like Carriker, at a fraction of this price.. Forget the money, I said ALL AROUND DE.

This is a very sad and confusing day in this Organization's history for me. It's now apparent that our front office is absolutey inferior to almost any other FO in the NFL, and sadly I have to force myself to resign the fact that we sure as hell aint going to be better than 7 wins until some people at the top, including the owner, are gone.

[Tatonka]

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I'm sorry, but $13M guaranteed and $6M per season for Chris Kelsey is friggin' nuts. That guy may be a decent player, but he doesn't deserve that kind of guaranteed cash.

If I'm Aaron Schobel right now, I'm holding out.

what are you talking about?? how are you getting 6 mill a season? if only 13 million is guarenteed?

[Nighthawk]

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He's not worth it. What does this organization do to judge a player's talent? If the player is the nicest guy in town, he gets big money? However, if he isn't the most likeable guy then we don't give him the money? This is ridiculous if true.

[patmoran2006]

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if this is his contract numbers, 4 years, with 13 guarenteed.. all the people that have been ****ting themselves should feel dumb.. that is ridiculously low for a starting defensive end.

Do your math.. the 13 is guarenteed, whether he gets cut this year or in year 4.. The deal averages 6 million per, and i'm sure the first two years are going to be for more money (hence the guarenteed money) than the last two when you factor in the guarented money.

id be less upset if this was a deal like Denney's that is severly backloaded.. This is the polar opposite.

We just paid a ton of money for a guy who sucks, and forget the money, he's just flat out "average" at best.. If you think this defense improves with average players, then you keep telling yourself that.

And the funny thing, if he signed with another team you'd all be talking about how much he sucked.. But the homer shoes are on and plenty tight today now.

[Tatonka]

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23 mill?

OK, so weve spent 23 out of 39 in OUR minds. That leaves us only 16 left.

Again, Im not sure that the common assumptions about our cap to cash statements are true. I dont think they mean the entire contract counts now, I think its more about paying upfront rather than backloading.

what are you talking about??

you guys around here are just ****ing brain dead as far as i can tell.

cash to cap does not mean that they are counting the ENTIRE CONTRACT to one year.. moron.

it means they are counting this years salary, and any signing bonus given, towards this years available money.