Kelsay's contract is fair

[NorthwesternFan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2682516

He got pretty much the exact same deal as Bryan Thomas...


Thomas and Keslay are the same exact player..

[OpIv37]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

If I jump off a bridge and you jump off the same bridge a few seconds later, does that mean it was smart for me to jump off the bridge?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2682516


He got pretty much the exact same deal as Bryan Thomas...


Thomas and Keslay are the same exact player..

Aren't you that A hole Rangers fan from BBI?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

If I jump off a bridge and you jump off the same bridge a few seconds later, does that mean it was smart for me to jump off the bridge?

If your bridge was a fair market value bridge then yes.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

Aren't you that A hole Rangers fan from BBI?

Yeah he is. Bi-Polar he is.

[OpIv37]

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If your bridge was a fair market value bridge then yes.

just because that's what the jets paid their DE doesn't make it fair market value. Also, Kelsay's contract was first so it could be used as a benchmark- his contract could have inflated the contract for Thomas and any other DE that hasn't signed yet.

There is no logical validity to the statement that the Kelsay deal is fair because of what the Jets gave Thomas. We can argue all day (and have been) about the fairness of the Kelsay deal, but it won't ever bring truth to the initial statement in this thread.

[OpIv37]

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and didn't we used to laugh at the Jets? Now, all of a sudden we're using them as a benchmark to decide how reasonable our contracts are? When did this happen?

[Nighthawk]

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and didn't we used to laugh at the Jets? Now, all of a sudden we're using them as a benchmark to decide how reasonable our contracts are? When did this happen?

Yes, we did, but now everybody laughs at us!

[YardRat]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

If I jump off a bridge and you jump off the same bridge a few seconds later, does that mean it was smart for me to jump off the bridge?

Let's find out. You're going first, right?

[NorthwesternFan]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

The man is 6'4 277 pounds of brute power..

He is EXTREMLY difficult to contain..


Ryan Denney should be re-signed as well..

Let Schobel go

[SABURZFAN]

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Aren't you that A hole Rangers fan from BBI?

Buffalo's Biggest Idiots????????

[SABURZFAN]

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Let Schobel go

oooooooooook.

[OpIv37]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

The man is 6'4 277 pounds of brute power..

He is EXTREMLY difficult to contain..


Ryan Denney should be re-signed as well..

Let Schobel go

he's so difficult to contain that he has 12.5 sacks and 100 tackles in 4 years. Wow. Impressive.

and maybe you should pay attention-Denney signed a new contract before last season- I believe he has 3 years left on a 4 year deal.

[clumping platelets]

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Kelsay would have gotten more on the open market..........was he overpaid, a bit but that's the price to keep FAs

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Re: Kelsay's contract is fair

According to the Buffalo News, Kelsay's contract is also in line with what A.Kampman and K.VandenBosch got last year:

"While exact terms of the deal were not yet available, league sources said the contract averages about $5.75 million a year, and includes roughly $14 million in guaranteed money. That's in line with what some promising defensive ends at the same stage in their careers got last offseason. Aaron Kampman, considered by Green Bay to be a budding star last March, got a $5.25 million average after a 6¹/2-sack season. It was a smart move by the Packers. He jumped up to 15¹/2 sacks in 2006. Tennessee gave Kyle Vanden Bosch a $5.5 million average in the wake of a 12¹/2-sack season, which had followed four poor years. Last season Vanden Bosch dropped down to 6¹/2 sacks."

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20070227/1023852.asp

While I have never been a big Kelsay fan (when he was projected to be the Bills first round pick coming out of college, I hated the idea because I never thought that he would be a big-time pass rusher on the pro level worthy of a # 1--and I was glad that the Bills only spent a second round pick on him) and I don't believe that he will ever be the kind of dominating pass-rushing DE that some thought he could be, I do believe that he is a solid rotational player in a DE rotation that produced a very respectable 10 1/2 sacks last season who has the potential to play even a bit better than he has thus far.

More importantly, though, over the past two seasons, Kelsay--along with Fletcher-Baker--has consistently stood up after games and not only taken responsibility for his own play, but stated that the Bills defensive players needed to look themselves in the mirror and take responsibility for their own mistakes and for playing better instead of looking for excuses and pointing fingers at others. Kelsay was quoted as saying these things on at least four different occasions after Bills losses. Now, I don't know what kind of dollar value gets put on that kind of leadership, but, with F-B not likely to be back with the team, the Bills need to have someone in their lockerroom providing that kind of leadership and saying those kinds of things to their young players.

So, while I don't know if Kelsay is ever going to have the kind of breakout season that Kampman just did or command the respect that VandenBosch has come to command or ever be more than just a solid rotational player, I do think that, taking his leadership into consideration, the contract that he just signed isn't really out of line. With some of the assessments of this year's free agents comparing Kelsay to Kampman and the numbers that Kampman got last year, IMHO Kelsay's contract hardly seems as outrageous as some posters here have made it out to be.