Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

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  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

    Unbelievable.

    • The moves leave the Bills with about $19 million in cash to spend, according to News estimates. That's the amount of money for 2007 in bonuses and base pay they have to give players, not the total value of contracts they can give out. It appears the signing Monday of defensive end Chris Kelsay will cost the Bills $12 million in money this year - an $8 million signing bonus, a $1 million base salary and another $3 million bonus he's likely to get this year - according to two league sources. Just when that $3 million bonus would be paid was unclear.

    http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20070302/1027966.asp
  • don137
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 7720

    #2
    Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

    Wow if we used 40% of our available cap to cash space on Kelsey talk about getting kicked in the gut...

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    • Bill Brasky
      Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
      • Jan 2004
      • 66218

      #3
      Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

      wow. that is way too much money for a guy of his skillset.

      either the FO is incredibly stupid, or they felt they couldn't get anybody in FA to fill his spot if he actually left and went into panic mode.

      11$ million in bonuses?! WTF?!

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      • Forward_Lateral
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 29897

        #4
        Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

        Well, if they cut Holcomb, there's about 1.5 back I believe. Cutting Villarial must've saved a few million. I'd imagine a trade/cut of Spikes would save about 4 million as well. I'm not too worried, yet.

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        • Romes
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 5766

          #5
          Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

          If thats the case then next year he only counts for about $2 million against the cap.
          Originally posted by paladin warrior
          RALPH is drove me nut.

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          • Bill Brasky
            Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
            • Jan 2004
            • 66218

            #6
            Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

            who cares about next year? i care about now. i'm sick of pondering "well, next year...."

            i still don't get marv's logic - "we won't amortize for the future". so spend crazy amounts every year, limiting your buying power... or spread it out over the length of the deal like everyone else does and have a chance with a stable roster.

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            • THATHURMANATOR
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 69112

              #7
              Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

              12 million for this year is a bit much but does that mean that the final 4 years of the contract are very cheap cap #s?

              Again I want to see what our team looks like after the draft!

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              • Jaybird
                Registered User
                • Dec 2005
                • 1908

                #8
                Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                still have plenty of room 2 make moves dont worry it alll has just begun

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                • THATHURMANATOR
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 69112

                  #9
                  Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                  Freeman with this logic we would hypothetically have a lot of cap room each year though.

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                  • Mr. Pink
                    Peterman Sucks!
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 35303

                    #10
                    Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                    This is what I was "complaining, whining, *****ing" whatever choice words some people deemed I was doing about his signing.

                    Cash to Cap boys and girls, get used to it.

                    I won't complain, *****, whine further, I've done enough already about this signing.

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                    • Italian Stallion
                      Knows More Than You
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1136

                      #11
                      Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                      Originally posted by jfreeman
                      who cares about next year? i care about now. i'm sick of pondering "well, next year...."
                      I agree this is asinine. I'm so sick of spinning the calendar ahead to try and find something positive. If this is true that KELSAY is pocketing $12 mil of our cap space this year I'm fuc*ing livid.

                      wow. I hope this clown is wrong. No one can justify that kind of cap hit what so ever.
                      BILLS FOOTBALL

                      SABRES HOCKEY

                      METS BASEBALL

                      I like cheeseburgers and eva mendes

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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #12
                        Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                        Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                        Freeman with this logic we would hypothetically have a lot of cap room each year though.

                        Except, when we go to sign another middle of the road FA. This ensures that we'll never bring a TOP name in.

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                        • Saratoga Slim
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4154

                          #13
                          Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                          Originally posted by Romes
                          If thats the case then next year he only counts for about $2 million against the cap.
                          which shows the theory behind cash to cap--every year you know you're going to have cap room to add or keep a few FAs, because the ones you signed the years before are already mostly paid for.

                          in theory, it also means we're going to spend right up to the cap for this season. So we have about 19M to play with still. That's still a useful number.
                          Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?

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                          • HHURRICANE
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15490

                            #14
                            Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                            I'm 40 and I've had 4 long time Bills fans(around my age) all die of cancer. I'm sick of next year!! **** this ****!!!

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                            • Bill Brasky
                              Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 66218

                              #15
                              Re: Kelsay is 12 million dollar cap hit?

                              Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                              Freeman with this logic we would hypothetically have a lot of cap room each year though.
                              what good is that, though? we have a lot of cap room this year and aren't going to do anything with it. i'd venture to bet that Raph isn't going to become more open with his wallet in years to come.

                              as the cap increases, it will only become worse.

                              they'll continue to blow their wad on one or two mid-tier guys and then have nothing left over to do anything else.

                              that is like buying a house with your life savings without taking a loan and hoping the plumbing won't break.

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