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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Breaking today down

    So lets talk about some things after today.

    I think one thing is clear, size was key for us. Why? we may have signed Dockery for about what Steinbach got.The difference between the two is size, among other things.

    So ask yourself, why size? Well, I think we saw how potent the long ball could be on this team with Losman to Evans last year. I think we feel Evans is a long ball guy, hes not a possession type. He can catch it short, but his size limits his ability to fight for the ball. I think we see that hes a guy who beats guys and then scores. Signing Steinbach may make us better, yes it probably would have. But there is a risk that he could become overpowered at times. Dockery, on the other hand, is the same size as most of your bigger DL. I think Fairchild sees that JP needs that extra time to take advantage of our strength in the pass game which is the long ball.

    On run, I think we would have been fine with either Steinbach or Dockery. Honestly, its a push to me, both can block well.

    Walker at the very least is an upgrade at RG, RT? well I dont see why they would do this considering Pennington has looked decent. I think he may very well go to RG. Again, the size matters.

    Overall, you look at a team that has an X-Ram Coach in Fairchild and you think about Pace, and Barron an you can see a similarity in plans. Bulger is a pocket passer and has done well when he had big guys in front of him. I think Fairchild wanted size to buy JP the extra time to take even more advantage of Evans deep. I also think we will get even more players on O who will stretch the field deep.

    I think the thought was that guys like Dockery and Walker can take on more than one rusher with their size. That means that they dont necessarily need FB's or TE's that are blockers. Maybe they can get those passing or even running options like a Greg Olsen or Brian Leonhard because they have OG's that can handle more than one rusher.

    Weve all heard that it all starts with the lines, I just think that upgrading the physical talent at OG was the LEAST of our gain today. I think the tangible benefit that a team with a big line has is its options in the pass and run when you dont have to commit a RB or FB or even TE to cover the extra rushers.

    I can see us building a SB Rams type offense at this point. If we can just prevent a major purge on the defense talent wise, we are headed to good places.

  • Talk0fNewYork
    ~ I Can't Feel My Face ~
    • Jan 2007
    • 471

    #2
    Re: Breaking today down

    Great ****ing Post!

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    • X-Era
      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
      • Feb 2005
      • 27670

      #3
      Re: Breaking today down

      Originally posted by Talk0fNewYork
      Great ****ing Post!
      Thanks man.

      I honestly see us making a move at LB next. Wathc for it to be a guy who can play EITHER ILB or OLB to leave the Spikes trade option open.

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      • jamesiscool
        suck it fool.
        • Feb 2007
        • 733

        #4
        Re: Breaking today down

        the rams had two probowl recievers in holt and bruce in their last super bowl run and had marshall faulk. sooo i say we may be takin baby steps towards that but i dont see us becoing THAT talented at skill positions for a little while. awesome post tho.

        James
        Sec 241 row 12 seat 23

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        • feelthepain
          All-Pro Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 4663

          #5
          Re: Breaking today down

          The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.

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          • X-Era
            What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
            • Feb 2005
            • 27670

            #6
            Re: Breaking today down

            Originally posted by jamesiscool
            the rams had two probowl recievers in holt and bruce in their last super bowl run and had marshall faulk. sooo i say we may be takin baby steps towards that but i dont see us becoing THAT talented at skill positions for a little while. awesome post tho.

            James
            Dont disagree with your point. I wonder if Evans becomes Holt with these latest moves and a new WR becomes Bruce.

            It may not be EXACTL the same, but adding time for your QB cna help you in a ton of ways.

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            • The Spaz
              Registered User
              • Mar 2003
              • 19066

              #7
              Re: Breaking today down

              Originally posted by feelthepain
              The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.
              k

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              • X-Era
                What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                • Feb 2005
                • 27670

                #8
                Re: Breaking today down

                Originally posted by feelthepain
                The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.
                Where are you again?

                Its the old axiom, people tend to be their own problems.

                Why are you looking for acceptance as a Fins fan on a Bills board again?

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                • JJamezz
                   

                  Administrator Emeritus
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5626

                  #9
                  Re: Breaking today down

                  Originally posted by feelthepain
                  The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.
                  Nothing much to talk about over in finheaven tonight huh...

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                  • JJamezz
                     

                    Administrator Emeritus
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5626

                    #10
                    Re: Breaking today down

                    Great post man. I agree about the possibility of Walker at guard instead of tackle. I also like your point about size - for those that watch the post game PC's, how many times did JP comment that just 1 more second of pass protection on this or that particular play would have resulted in a huge gain / TD - several times..

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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670

                      #11
                      Re: Breaking today down

                      Originally posted by JJamezz
                      Great post man. I agree about the possibility of Walker at guard instead of tackle. I also like your point about size - for those that watch the post game PC's, how many times did JP comment that just 1 more second of pass protection on this or that particular play would have resulted in a huge gain / TD - several times..
                      So true, I didnt think about that. Losman did talk about being a second short over and over.

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                      • kgun12
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11319

                        #12
                        Re: Breaking today down

                        Originally posted by jp-era
                        Where are you again?

                        Its the old axiom, people tend to be their own problems.

                        Why are you looking for acceptance as a Fins fan on a Bills board again?

                        Maybe the one of the best post ever!!!
                        Retired Air Traffic Controller
                        USAF VETERAN
                        DAV

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                        • Mitchy moo
                          Roways rooking ahread!
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 18380

                          #13
                          Re: Breaking today down

                          Originally posted by feelthepain
                          The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.
                          Your team is going no where, fast.

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                          • X-Era
                            What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 27670

                            #14
                            Re: Breaking today down

                            Originally posted by kgun12
                            Maybe the one of the best post ever!!!
                            Im drunk, enjoy.

                            Thanks though.

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                            • jmb1099
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 3354

                              #15
                              Re: Breaking today down

                              Originally posted by feelthepain
                              The Bills are awsome....I wonder if this will get me ban from this thread. I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, so I guess I'll just post this everytime.
                              How's the fins free agency going...

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