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  • Redskins4life234
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 8

    London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

    Hey guys, I'm hear to ask you, your opinions of London Fletcher, as you guys, know first hand what he is about. In return, Im about to tell you what I, and many other Redskin fans see Derrick Dockery as.


    First off, I'm sad to see Dockery go, but for, to that, I am hell of glad the skins didnt sign him for 49 Million. He is NOT worth 49 million dollars. To me, he is mroe worth 20-30 million. He is not going to make your line any better then it already is. Dockery is a good Guard, not a great Guard. But to that, hes not going to make it any worst. I am going to tell you, in 2 years, you will be upset about the money you gave him, but not that you have him. Also, Dockery whenw with the skins, was still a work in progress. He was still learning and was getting better every year. If he stayed with us 2 years more, disregarding any injury, he would be 10x better then, then he is now. I'm not saying he is going to get any worst under the bills, as I don't know your system nor how good your oline coach is. So he does have the chance to get better.

    Some cons about Dockery are penalties. He gets a lot of false starts and holds. But all that can be taken away with work to stop it. He also isn't that great at pulling.

    Some pros: He doesn't let up many sacks, nor let any defenders blow him by in the run or pass. Secondly, that has stick to my mine, his hussle! One play that sticks to mine was back in 2005. It was about a 30 yard pass from Brunell to Cooley, Cooley had possasion, and then fumbled [which he rarely does] Noone was near the ball, other then Cooley and the Defender who tackled him, but they weren't in position to grab it. Dockery, as soon as the pass was let off, was hussling down fair, and went up an extra gear as he saw the ball came out. He recovered the fumble.


    So now, with all that, How good is fletcher? How much gas does he have left? How did he do in G.W.'s system compared to the one he was just in? Will he be a bust? Will he fill in our weak spot? Thanks.. and good luck next season.
  • Philagape
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    • Jul 2002
    • 19432

    #2
    Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

    Originally posted by Redskins4life234
    He is not going to make your line any better then it already is. Dockery is a good Guard, not a great Guard.
    That's an upgrade right there.
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    • patmoran2006
      Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
      • Dec 2005
      • 19840

      #3
      Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

      Fletcher is a warrior..

      The knock is he makes too many tackles downfield.. part of the problem with that is Buffalo's DT's are so weak, they often get blown off the play and the OL gets to the second level every running play.

      he had 4 int's and 2 Td's this year, so he's capable of making big plays.

      He's a real good player.. You will be happy you got him.


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      • Devin
        The Octagon
        • Apr 2003
        • 23878

        #4
        Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

        Originally posted by Redskins4life234
        Hey guys, I'm hear to ask you, your opinions of London Fletcher, as you guys, know first hand what he is about. In return, Im about to tell you what I, and many other Redskin fans see Derrick Dockery as.


        First off, I'm sad to see Dockery go, but for, to that, I am hell of glad the skins didnt sign him for 49 Million. He is NOT worth 49 million dollars. To me, he is mroe worth 20-30 million. He is not going to make your line any better then it already is. Dockery is a good Guard, not a great Guard. But to that, hes not going to make it any worst. I am going to tell you, in 2 years, you will be upset about the money you gave him, but not that you have him. Also, Dockery whenw with the skins, was still a work in progress. He was still learning and was getting better every year. If he stayed with us 2 years more, disregarding any injury, he would be 10x better then, then he is now. I'm not saying he is going to get any worst under the bills, as I don't know your system nor how good your oline coach is. So he does have the chance to get better.

        Some cons about Dockery are penalties. He gets a lot of false starts and holds. But all that can be taken away with work to stop it. He also isn't that great at pulling.

        Some pros: He doesn't let up many sacks, nor let any defenders blow him by in the run or pass. Secondly, that has stick to my mine, his hussle! One play that sticks to mine was back in 2005. It was about a 30 yard pass from Brunell to Cooley, Cooley had possasion, and then fumbled [which he rarely does] Noone was near the ball, other then Cooley and the Defender who tackled him, but they weren't in position to grab it. Dockery, as soon as the pass was let off, was hussling down fair, and went up an extra gear as he saw the ball came out. He recovered the fumble.


        So now, with all that, How good is fletcher? How much gas does he have left? How did he do in G.W.'s system compared to the one he was just in? Will he be a bust? Will he fill in our weak spot? Thanks.. and good luck next season.
        Fletcher is a great guy on and off the field and a solid team leader. Hes solid in pass coverage and an average tackler. He had a habit of making tackles 4-5-6 yards out which obviously is a little counter productive. But he will make plays for you. I think he will give you a solid 2 years at least. As i said in another thread he wont make the pro-bowl but hes right there on that cusp, at least for the next season or two. Unfortunatley time is catching up to him.

        As far as Dockery goes its the market. As a Redskin fan im sure you know that the redskins saying anyone overpaid for a FA is a bit comical.

        And Dockery is not only an upgrade but paired with Peters will hopefully make both better.
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        • Slim
          Registered User
          • Apr 2004
          • 7597

          #5
          Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

          Our line is terrible. And to line him up with Jason Peters makes the left side of your line very good.

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86296

            #6
            Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

            Fletcher will be a better fit in GW's system than he was in the T2 last year, and he should have a couple of years left. Not the fastest MLB, but he'll get to the ball. Not the tallest either, but he can still drop back in zone pass coverage. Fletch performs best against the run when he's filling gaps with a big line in front of him so offensive linemen can't get a hat on him. Against the pass he's fine in the middle zone, but don't expect him to go sideline to sideline unless he's the second/third man in. A little too short to get real deep, also.

            He's an upgrade for you guys, and you'll like his durability and the leadership he brings to the field and the locker room.

            Good guy, I hope he does well unless you're playing us
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            • G. Host
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 10298

              #7
              Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

              London Fletcher will be a happy addition to Snyder's parties.
              I would have been glad if London Fletcher could have stayed but he did not fit the new defense.

              You will not see London Fletcher ever not give 100%.

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              • feelthepain
                All-Pro Zoner
                • Mar 2005
                • 4663

                #8
                Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                Originally Posted by Redskins4life234
                He is not going to make your line any better then it already is. Dockery is a good Guard, not a great Guard.
                Ahhh, what do you know, you're just a Redskin fan! The Bills just locked up one of the best FA's on the market and JP will turn into Tom Brady thanks to this monster signing. Gosh, don't you know anything?!?!?

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                • Redskins4life234
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                  Originally posted by Devin
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                  As far as Dockery goes its the market. As a Redskin fan im sure you know that the redskins saying anyone overpaid for a FA is a bit comical.
                  Sadly enough, that might be a true, but, the Skins did try to resign him, and they couldn't come to an agreement, and that is because, we knew, he was not worth 49 Million. 49 is what hutchinson is making, and he is no hutchinson is making. I'm not trying to be all, now hes not a redskin, he sucks thing. He is a good player, and I hope him the best, and 5 years down the road, he has 4 probowls on his belt, I will be very happy for him. I hope for him to do very well. But as of right now, March 3rd, 2007, he is not worth 49 Million. in 2 years though, March, 3rd, 2009 he might. He is getting better every year, and learning under one of the greater Oline coaches in the NFL isn't to bad ethier and be surronded by talent. As I see from the other post, your line isn't that good, which I didn't know, as I don't know that much about the Bills as I do other teams. But if you have a good teacher as your oline coach, he WILL get better.

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                  • gr8slayer
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 20796

                    #10
                    Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                    Fletcher is a great leader and will be missed here.

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                    • madness
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 13690

                      #11
                      Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                      You keep blockers off of Fletcher and he will be making plays all over the field. He's also one of the most intelligent LB's in the game and knows how to run a defense better then most MLBs in the league.

                      Also, Dockery whenw with the skins, was still a work in progress. He was still learning and was getting better every year. If he stayed with us 2 years more, disregarding any injury, he would be 10x better then, then he is now. I'm not saying he is going to get any worst under the bills, as I don't know your system nor how good your oline coach is. So he does have the chance to get better.
                      Then Dockery is in the right place and he will flourish. McNally is our OL coach and he is highly regarded around the league as one of the best. If I recall correctly, in Dockery's interview he mentioned McNally was a factor in his decision to sign with us.
                      Last edited by madness; 03-03-2007, 04:04 PM.

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                      • Bulldog
                        Top Dog
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2654

                        #12
                        Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                        Originally posted by feelthepain
                        Ahhh, what do you know, you're just a Redskin fan! The Bills just locked up one of the best FA's on the market and JP will turn into Tom Brady thanks to this monster signing. Gosh, don't you know anything?!?!?
                        Cry me a river! Somebody feels a bit left out as the only thing Miami has done is ......well nothing to speak of. I see they unloaded Wilkinson to Denver for a 6th round pick. Next you're going to tell us that Miami is having the best FA period in the AFC. Like I said before, go cry on Finheaven will all the other losers!
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                        • Devin
                          The Octagon
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 23878

                          #13
                          Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                          Originally posted by Redskins4life234
                          ....and that is because, we knew, he was not worth 49 Million. 49 is what hutchinson is making, and he is no hutchinson
                          What did Rams fans think of what you paid Archuleta? Or maybe Pitt fans with Randle El?

                          I understand what your saying. And I agree, Dockery is no Hutch ill be the first to admit it. And yes we overpaid.

                          But the same can be said about Clements, Thomas, Dielman, Steinbach.....etc. Just the nature of the beast.
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                          • SABURZFAN
                            short bus extraordinaire
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 50747

                            #14
                            Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                            Originally posted by feelthepain
                            Ahhh, what do you know, you're just a Redskin fan! The Bills just locked up one of the best FA's on the market and JP will turn into Tom Brady thanks to this monster signing. Gosh, don't you know anything?!?!?


                            who said that?
                            Originally posted by yordad
                            Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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                            • Devin
                              The Octagon
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 23878

                              #15
                              Re: London Fletcher and Derrick Dockery

                              Originally posted by feelthepain
                              Ahhh, what do you know, you're just a Redskin fan! The Bills just locked up one of the best FA's on the market and JP will turn into Tom Brady thanks to this monster signing. Gosh, don't you know anything?!?!?
                              lol Dolphins.
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