Again, why aren't we going after Cato June??

[Mr. Miyagi]

We need an LB, June is the best on the market. Also he isn't getting a lot of sniffs so I assume his price is coming down. Why not pick up this guy so we don't have to fill another hole in the draft??

What are we waiting for Marv??

[ublinkwescore]

We need an LB, June is the best on the market. Also he isn't getting a lot of sniffs so I assume his price is coming down. Why not pick up this guy so we don't have to fill another hole in the draft??

What are we waiting for Marv??

I have no idea - I hope Marv's on the phone with him ASAP if Willis by chance goes before we make our selection, or if Marv sees someone he wants more on the board still and passes on Willis.

[camelcowboy]

We need an LB, June is the best on the market. Also he isn't getting a lot of sniffs so I assume his price is coming down. Why not pick up this guy so we don't have to fill another hole in the draft??

What are we waiting for Marv??

i have been wondering the same thing. Giants have shown a little interest in him, but im wondering what we don't know. Why isn't this guy getting any play?

[The Spaz]

Why isn't anyone else going after him?

[camelcowboy]

Why isn't anyone else going after him?

:idunno:

[Devin]

We need an LB, June is the best on the market. Also he isn't getting a lot of sniffs so I assume his price is coming down. Why not pick up this guy so we don't have to fill another hole in the draft??

What are we waiting for Marv??

Maybe the same reason 31 other teams arent.

[acehole]

I would think the bills will wait until unloading spikes before commiting to anyone. Then the gloves are off.

Draft day will yeild some fireworks.



Why isn't anyone else going after him?

[camelcowboy]

Maybe the same reason 31 other teams arent.

Yeah, I know many teams think he's limited to the cover two, but thats what we run and he was good at it. He just won a superbowl seems like a no brainer, theres probally a character issue or something we don't know about.

[Tatonka]

because we spent 25 million on a RT?

[YardRat]

Two strikes for substance abuse is a possibility.

[Carlton Bailey]

Perhaps Marv is talking to Jerry Angelo vis a vis Lance Briggs? I hope so, anyway.

[Throne Logic]

Would June really be an upgrade vs. the run? He'd be Fletcher all over again, only with less character.

[ublinkwescore]

Two strikes for substance abuse is a possibility.

When did this happen - I never heard anything about this...

[jamze132]

Although I would love to have Lance Briggs instead, until he is released by the Bears, he is off limits. If he refuses to play, then the Bears might want to think about a sign and trade. Would it be worth it for us to throw them our 1st rd for him? It would be like drafting a LB, only this one is way more experienced.

[DraftBoy]

Two strikes for substance abuse is a possibility.


Maybe it leaked he hit strike three?

[theanswer74]

Because we already have a Cato June on the roster, Keith Ellison

[Tatonka]

Because we already have a Cato June on the roster, Keith Ellison

we have a winner.

[Saratoga Slim]

Because we already have a Cato June on the roster, Keith Ellison

That's probably it.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Because we already have a Cato June on the roster, Keith Ellison
Two Ellison is better than one!

I hear Minnesota is making a play for June and Harper.

[OpIv37]

Because we already have a Cato June on the roster, Keith Ellison

comparing Keith Ellison to Cato June?

Wow.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our winner for "Homer Post of the Year"!

[justasportsfan]

comparing Keith Ellison to Cato June?

Wow.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our winner for "Homer Post of the Year"!

I think he was being sarcastic? If not and if Marv and Dick thinks that too, are they homers?

[OpIv37]

I think he was being sarcastic? If not and if Marv and Dick thinks that too, are they homers?

If he was being sarcastic, than my apologies.

As far as what Marv and Dick think, not every player on the roster is going to be a star. Just because Marv and Dick think Ellison is good enough to be on the team doesn't mean they think he's the equivalent of Cato June.

[justasportsfan]

If he was being sarcastic, than my apologies.

As far as what Marv and Dick think, not every player on the roster is going to be a star. Just because Marv and Dick think Ellison is good enough to be on the team doesn't mean they think he's the equivalent of Cato June.


I'm not sure if they think he's an equivalent but if they think he has the potential then so be it. If Cato June's so good, why aren't there any offers? Not even from his own team. It's been how long now? Maybe Polian told Marv something about June ? :idunno:

[OpIv37]

I'm not sure if they think he's an equivalent but if they think he has the potential then so be it. If Cato June's so good, why aren't there any offers? Not even from his own team. It's been how long now? Maybe Polian told Marv something about June ? :idunno:
Could be- I don't know either.

We are, however, short on LB's. We have Spikes, Ellison, and Crowell, with DiGiorgio and Wire behind them. That's not a great LB corps to begin with, and with one injury, it's a disaster. Maybe shelling out for June isn't the wisest way to fix it, but something has to be done.

[justasportsfan]

Could be- I don't know either.

We are, however, short on LB's. We have Spikes, Ellison, and Crowell, with DiGiorgio and Wire behind them. That's not a great LB corps to begin with, and with one injury, it's a disaster. Maybe shelling out for June isn't the wisest way to fix it, but something has to be done.


If we had AJ Hawk in Ellisons place , would be even be asking for June? So far it's not hard to see that Ellison nos. could've matched AJ's with Ellison playing very limited time and behind a struggling DT comapred to AJ HAwk, no?
I think we're looking for a MLB and I don't think June might be it.

[camelcowboy]

If we had AJ Hawk in Ellisons place , would be even be asking for June? So far it's not hard to see that Ellison nos. could've matched AJ's with Ellison playing very limited time and behind a struggling DT comapred to AJ HAwk, no?
I think we're looking for a MLB and I don't think June might be it.

Honestly, If spikes looked anywhere close to his former self we wouldn't be having this conversation. I think Takeo might be the odd man out.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Really? With our lack of depth in LBs already, we're going to cut Spikes? I'm not so sure.

[camelcowboy]

Really? With our lack of depth in LBs already, we're going to cut Spikes? I'm not so sure. I think Spikes moves to the bench, or gets cut before they move ellison to the bench. They want linebackers who can run, spikes still needs to show he can run.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I think Spikes moves to the bench, or gets cut before they move ellison to the bench. They want linebackers who can run, spikes still needs to show he can run.
I think they'll watch him at training camp to see if he can first before cutting him.

[justasportsfan]

I think they'll watch him at training camp to see if he can first before cutting him.
I agree. Plus, he really did pick it up towards the end of the season.

[OpIv37]

I think they'll watch him at training camp to see if he can first before cutting him.

I hope they don't do that. If we want til camp and he's not ready, there will be ZERO chance of finding a replacement before the season starts. The best we can hope for is someone else's camp casualty, which isn't good enough.

I think they need to make a decision on Spikes now- either decide to go into the season with him, or cut/trade him now and work on getting a replacement in FA or the draft. Camp is too late.

[justasportsfan]

I hope they don't do that. If we want til camp and he's not ready, there will be ZERO chance of finding a replacement before the season starts. The best we can hope for is someone else's camp casualty, which isn't good enough.

I think they need to make a decision on Spikes now- either decide to go into the season with him, or cut/trade him now and work on getting a replacement in FA or the draft. Camp is too late.
If it was any another other player , then I'd say yes. Spikes is one type of player I'd be willing to see before I cut him. Prior to his injury, he had everything you want in a player. He's got the heart of a warrior that others could only dream off. Spikes is a player you can say, if Peterson can do it, so can Spikes.

[camelcowboy]

I hope they don't do that. If we want til camp and he's not ready, there will be ZERO chance of finding a replacement before the season starts. The best we can hope for is someone else's camp casualty, which isn't good enough.

I think they need to make a decision on Spikes now- either decide to go into the season with him, or cut/trade him now and work on getting a replacement in FA or the draft. Camp is too late.

If we didn't lose our MLB, CB, and RB in the same Offseason i'd be with you. I just cant see cutting spikes before the draft as well. It would not be good for moral

[The Answer]

We need an LB, June is the best on the market. Also he isn't getting a lot of sniffs so I assume his price is coming down. Why not pick up this guy so we don't have to fill another hole in the draft??

What are we waiting for Marv??

June is overrated and is likely looking to cash in during these inflated FA times - no thanks.

The Answer would rather take his chances with a young buck like Ellison even though he's likely camp fodder this summer.

~The Answer

[DraftBoy]

June is overrated and is likely looking to cash in during these inflated FA times - no thanks.

The Answer would rather take his chances with a young buck like Ellison.

~The Answer


I dont know about overrated but Im happy with Ellison starting imo

[camelcowboy]

June is overrated and is likely looking to cash in during these inflated FA times - no thanks.

The Answer would rather take his chances with a young buck like Ellison even though he's likely camp fodder this summer.

~The Answer

June has no leverage in a negotition right now everyday he's on the market his value drops.

[DraftBoy]

June has no leverage in a negotition right now everyday he's on the market his value drops.

Agreed, he's in a tail spin right now

[The Answer]

June has no leverage in a negotition right now everyday he's on the market his value drops.

He's a member of the defending world champs - right now he probably has unrealistic demands but he will still cash in soon.

~The Answer

[OpIv37]

If it was any another other player , then I'd say yes. Spikes is one type of player I'd be willing to see before I cut him. Prior to his injury, he had everything you want in a player. He's got the heart of a warrior that others could only dream off. Spikes is a player you can say, if Peterson can do it, so can Spikes.

Before the injury, Spikes was the complete player- he had all the natural physical tools, plus the work ethic and desire to win that put him over the top. I wish every player on our team had his mentality. I seriously hope he recovers and returns to form this year, but I think it's a huge gamble for the team to count on that happening.

[justasportsfan]

Before the injury, Spikes was the complete player- he had all the natural physical tools, plus the work ethic and desire to win that put him over the top. I wish every player on our team had his mentality. I seriously hope he recovers and returns to form this year, but I think it's a huge gamble for the team to count on that happening.
not that huge of a gamble as long as we cover the DT spot, IMO.

Don't forget we still have Stamer :couch:

[Mr. Miyagi]

I hope they don't do that. If we want til camp and he's not ready, there will be ZERO chance of finding a replacement before the season starts. The best we can hope for is someone else's camp casualty, which isn't good enough.

I think they need to make a decision on Spikes now- either decide to go into the season with him, or cut/trade him now and work on getting a replacement in FA or the draft. Camp is too late.
It can't hurt to bring in a Plan B guy for TC just in case, but cutting Spikes now is too risky. I think there's a chance that he's back 97%.

[camelcowboy]

He's a member of the defending world champs - right now he probably has unrealistic demands but he will still cash in soon.

~The Answer

With no visits, and little interest. World champ or not, reality is he's not going to cash in.

[OpIv37]

not that huge of a gamble as long as we cover the DT spot, IMO.

Don't forget we still have Stamer :couch:

ha, Stamer- I thought he got cut in camp last year. That shows the kind of impact he has on this team...

[justasportsfan]

ha, Stamer- I thought he got cut in camp last year. That shows the kind of impact he has on this team...
season ending injury in the 1st game I think. He's a great ST player and I thought he was doing well at camp with the new system. :idunno:

[capitolneal]

Isn't Coy Wire that same hybrid type of player? We just resigned him to play LB he played that same position at Stanford I think we stand pat till after the draft

[OpIv37]

season ending injury in the 1st game I think. He's a great ST player and I thought he was doing well at camp with the new system. :idunno:

ah, so that's where he's been. I didn't get to see camp so I'll have to take your word for it.

He is a good ST guy, although I'm starting to wonder if keeping guys just for ST ability sometimes hurts us in the long run. Last year, we ran short at DT, CB, and LB at various times.

[justasportsfan]

ah, so that's where he's been. I didn't get to see camp so I'll have to take your word for it.

He is a good ST guy, although I'm starting to wonder if keeping guys just for ST ability sometimes hurts us in the long run. Last year, we ran short at DT, CB, and LB at various times.


wait I forgot about Wire. I think the coaches like him more than Stamer.

All I know is that Marv knew he had to fix the Ol and he did. He also knows he needs to fix stopping the run and he will. Fewell did mention that he wants more beef up the middle and I don't think June has the ideal size. Briggs is tied up because of the tag. I'm just as worried as you about us still not addressing our stoping the run but I'm a little bit more patient.