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Carlton Bailey
03-12-2007, 01:34 PM
From Chris Brown at BB.com...

JULIUS JONES BEING OFFERED: Dallas Cowboys RB Julius Jones is apparently available for the right price according to the Philadelphia Daily News. If you scroll down to the Around the League section you'll see that the Cowboys are apparently set to hitch their wagon to Marion Barber, making Jones expendable. Wonder if Buffalo is interested?

I don't think I'd offer more than 4th round pick for him in light of what the market has shown for RB trades.

**I'd sign up for this in two seconds flat. Trade for Jones, sign Dillon, and you have a ridiculous one-two punch of speed and power.

Edit: Nvm Dillon, since we just re-upped A-Train.

RockStar36
03-12-2007, 01:38 PM
Jones and A-Train? I'd be willing to give it a shot. I'm torn on what they should do at 12.

Forward_Lateral
03-12-2007, 01:38 PM
I wouldn't give up too much. Definately less than they got for McGahee.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Player Rushes Tot Avg TD

Willis McGahee 259 990 3.8 6

Julius Jones 267 1084 4.1 4

and remember Marion Baber got :

Marion Barber 135 654 4.8 14

So I would give up the 3rd we got for Willis for J. Jones.

The King
03-12-2007, 02:08 PM
No Thanks

gr8slayer
03-12-2007, 02:11 PM
I'll pass.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 02:12 PM
Id give up that Baltimore third for Jones in a second.

It would be then become a McGahee for Jones and a 2008 3rd round deal..
To me that's worth it.. Julius Jones is better than you think. Personally, I also think he's better than McGahee.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Why pass if that was the deal offered?

Jones is better than any of these third round rated RB's in the draft. (Pittman, Irons, Hunt, Walker, Henry)

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:16 PM
No Thanks


I'll pass.

Why? :idunno: He doesn't fumble, has good speed, and from what I know about him, he is a decent guy! You can still grab a back in the 2nd or 3rd round and have a pretty decent 1-2 punch for a long time!

Gunzlingr
03-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Doesn't he have injury issues?

gr8slayer
03-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Why? :idunno: He doesn't fumble, has good speed, and from what I know about him, he is a decent guy! You can still grab a back in the 2nd or 3rd round and have a pretty decent 1-2 punch for a long time!
Injured too much, goes down at contact, is not a 20+ carry a game back, sucks as a pass catcher, thinks he is due for a big pay day.

gr8slayer
03-12-2007, 02:20 PM
Doesn't he have injury issues?
Major. Missed twelve games in three seasons.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:32 PM
Injured too much, goes down at contact, is not a 20+ carry a game back, sucks as a pass catcher, thinks he is due for a big pay day.

Career

G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD

37 721 2896 78.3 4.0 16

Career
Rec Yds

Y/G Avg Lng YAC

61 469 12.7 7.7

8 games in 2004 Rookie, 13 games 2005, 16 games 2006.

I'll take a career avg of 4 yards a carry, and 7.7 yards after the catch, and as far as injuries he missed 2 games this year, most backs arenn't going to go the whole year without some kind of onjury. Par him with a 2nd or 3rd round back this year you have a damn good 1-2 punch for a long time.

Michael82
03-12-2007, 02:34 PM
I'd give up either one of our 3rd rounders in a heartbeat and then forget about drafting a RB until day 2. :up:

RedEyE
03-12-2007, 02:37 PM
I'd give up Baltimore's 3rd next year and Baltimore's 7th this year. :D

gr8slayer
03-12-2007, 02:38 PM
Career

G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD

37 721 2896 78.3 4.0 16

Career
Rec Yds

Y/G Avg Lng YAC

61 469 12.7 7.7

8 games in 2004 Rookie, 13 games 2005, 16 games 2006.

I'll take a career avg of 4 yards a carry, and 7.7 yards after the catch, and as far as injuries he missed 2 games this year, most backs arenn't going to go the whole year without some kind of onjury. Par him with a 2nd or 3rd round back this year you have a damn good 1-2 punch for a long time.
You can have the bum. I get to watch him here at the home games and he blows.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:42 PM
Major. Missed twelve games in three seasons.

Your counting his rookie year, where he only played 8 games, he wasn't hurt he was just a rookie. In 8 games he had

Year Team Rush Yds Avg Lg TD

2004 DAL 197 819 4.2 53 7

He was 4th on the depth chart and BTW those numbers came on a 6-10 team!

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:44 PM
You can have the bum. I get to watch him here at the home games and he blows.

What are your qualifications do make that determination? We get to see him here a lot also, and from the amount of playing, having to split time with Barber, his stats are pretty good.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 02:48 PM
He's an INSTANT upgrade over McGahee, period.

Philagape
03-12-2007, 02:50 PM
Jones is a better option than any FA

gr8slayer
03-12-2007, 02:50 PM
What are your qualifications do make that determination? We get to see him here a lot also, and from the amount of playing, having to split time with Barber, his stats are pretty good.
Again, you can have him. I think he's a bum.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:51 PM
He's an INSTANT upgrade over McGahee, period.

That's not saying much! :funny:

RockStar36
03-12-2007, 02:51 PM
What are your qualifications do make that determination? We get to see him here a lot also, and from the amount of playing, having to split time with Barber, his stats are pretty good.

He lives in Dallas. Therefore he automatically knows more about Dallas players.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:53 PM
Again, you can have him. I think he's a bum.

Again qualifications to say that? You may not like the guy, but his stats say he isn't a bad back and definitely not a bum!

kgun12
03-12-2007, 02:53 PM
He lives in Dallas. Therefore he automatically knows more about Dallas players.

Exactly my point!

Michael82
03-12-2007, 02:54 PM
He lives in Dallas. Therefore he automatically knows more about Dallas players.
Everyone else knows about the Dallas players too because ESPN, NBC and Fox show their games all the time. :meh:

RockStar36
03-12-2007, 02:58 PM
Everyone else knows about the Dallas players too because ESPN, NBC and Fox show their games all the time. :meh:

I think you're wrong. Unless you live in Dallas there is no way to watch a Cowboy game.

Michael82
03-12-2007, 02:59 PM
I think you're wrong. Unless you live in Dallas there is no way to watch a Cowboy game.
:rofl: :rofl:

jamesiscool
03-12-2007, 03:05 PM
id take him. is he a betetr back than brown? yes. does he have ALOT more upside? yes. will he better than ANY late first day draft pick? yes. he has NFL experience which is a MUST for a team that currently only has shaud "the ramrod" Williams on its roster.

Most people on this board think that we can get a draft pick in the 2-3rd round who can step in rigth away and take 20-25 carries a game and rush for 1,000 yds.

trade the 3rd rounder for jones, draft another RB and then our backfield is set. look at where we are now then look at where we would be if we had a back who is young and has ALOT of upside.

i for one am not completely comfortable with a subpar veteran RB and a rookie in the back field to start the season. jones has more upside than any other FA RB and would be a steal if we could get him for a third.

but then again, thats just my 2 cents.

James

RockStar36
03-12-2007, 03:08 PM
trade the 3rd rounder for jones, draft another RB and then our backfield is set. look at where we are now then look at where we would be if we had a back who is young and has ALOT of upside.


How many backs does the team need? They just re-signed A-Train today.

jamesiscool
03-12-2007, 03:10 PM
How many backs does the team need? They just re-signed A-Train today.

I JUST read that hahaha.... well.... um.... yea. GO BILLS!

James

kgun12
03-12-2007, 03:12 PM
How many backs does the team need? They just re-signed A-Train today.

We would have Jones, A-Train, Rookie. Why not then we can cut S. Williams!

Ed
03-12-2007, 03:17 PM
It would be pretty funny if we ended up with Jones considering Dallas used the 2nd round pick we traded them to draft him after giving us their first so we could draft Losman.

Buffalogic
03-12-2007, 03:18 PM
No thanks. Let's just roll out the red carpet for Adrian Peterson at pick 12.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 03:29 PM
That's not saying much! :funny:
Considering we havent upgraded a single solitary position on this football team since last season ended other than left guard; it's saying plenty.

Give Jones a feature role in this team with a nice left side of the line and he'll run off 1200-1300 yards. He's better than Willis, he's 10x better as a pass catching option for Losman and don't even get me started on comparing him and Atrain.

Atrain would be the perfect, smash-mouth change of pace back to come in the game with a home run threat like Jones on this team.

He's worth a third round draft pick, PERIOD.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 03:34 PM
No thanks. Let's just roll out the red carpet for Adrian Peterson at pick 12.


I cann't see wasting a 1st round pick on a RB. Backs are a dime a dozen. They really don't need any time to develop. Either they have it or they don't! Fill any other need first.

RockStar36
03-12-2007, 03:34 PM
No thanks. Let's just roll out the red carpet for Adrian Peterson at pick 12.

Yeah, because he isn't injury prone or anything.

kgun12
03-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Considering we havent upgraded a single solitary position on this football team since last season ended other than left guard; it's saying plenty.

Give Jones a feature role in this team with a nice left side of the line and he'll run off 1200-1300 yards. He's better than Willis, he's 10x better as a pass catching option for Losman and don't even get me started on comparing him and Atrain.

Atrain would be the perfect, smash-mouth change of pace back to come in the game with a home run threat like Jones on this team.

He's worth a third round draft pick, PERIOD.
I see why you are negged so much. First my quote "That's not saying much" refer to your Willis quote. Second I have only posted the postives about bringing in J. Jones. So here's a little advise, read some of the posts and make sure what people are saying before you go off the F##king deep end pal! HELL I even thanked one of your posts, probably for the last time!

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Julius Jones has gotten a raw deal in Dallas and I think was used poorly.

He had 1084 yards rushing last year, despite having 15 carries or fewer in exactly half (8) of Dallas' 16 games. 7 times last season he had 20 or more carries, and only once did he fail to crack at least 90 yards.

In the playoffs last year against Seattle, when any pro player should be judged, he was shredding up that Seattle defense until God Parcels decided he didn't need Jones running the ball anymore. By the way, he still finished with 112 yards in that game on 22 carries.

Anybody who wouldn't give up a third round pick for him and would rather take a crapshoot on a guy like Irons, Hunt or Pittman instead in round three seriously needs to consider getting their head examined.

Jones could be a stallion in this league;and A Thomas in this scenario would b the perfect backup. Umm ya, it also would allow Buffalo to actually adress someone on the defensive side of the ball in round one (and probably 2); since we don't appear to have any need or interest to bring in a defensive FA at the time of this post.

if Levy pulled the trigger on this trade; I think it would be as beneficial to Buffalo as Travis Henry going to Denver is for the Broncos.. I think it would THAT good of a deal, one of the most underated in all of the offseason.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 03:43 PM
HELL I even thanked one of your posts, pobably for the last time!

I see why you are negged so much. First my quote "That's not saying much" refer to your Willis quote. Second I have only posted the postives about bringing in J. Jones. So here's a little advise, read some of the posts and make sure what people are saying before you go off the F##king deep end pal!
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BSU Drew
03-12-2007, 04:07 PM
Forget about Jones.. A-Train and Lynch sounds like a good combo to me.

patmoran2006
03-12-2007, 04:15 PM
Forget about Jones.. A-Train and Lynch sounds like a good combo to me.

Cool.. I hope Lynch also knows how to play a little linebacker, DT and cornerback too.

AndreReed83
03-12-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm not a big fan, having watched nearly every game he has played for Dallas. He's indecisive when trying to hit the hole and goes down on first contact way too easily. Most Dallas fans would love to see this guy jetisioned off the team to make way for Barber.

Night Train
03-12-2007, 04:43 PM
He's injury prone and doesn't like contact.

Forget him.

TigerJ
03-12-2007, 05:17 PM
Id give up that Baltimore third for Jones in a second.

It would be then become a McGahee for Jones and a 2008 3rd round deal..
To me that's worth it.. Julius Jones is better than you think. Personally, I also think he's better than McGahee.

I think I would too. He would be a solid compliment to Anthony Thomas.

Buffalogic
03-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Yeah, because he isn't injury prone or anything.
Oh please..

He broke his collar bone. That's really going to affect the way he runs, right? Let's not take the best running prospect in the draft even if he slides to us at 12, because he is 'ingury prone'... Dumb.

ShadowHawk7
03-12-2007, 07:24 PM
I'd give up either one of our 3rd rounders in a heartbeat and then forget about drafting a RB until day 2. :up:
Wow, how sweet would that be? Then we can address the needs we had at the beginning of the offseason instead of a need we made. Trade them the 96th pick and use the other 3 for LB, DT, and then WR, in that order.
:drool: