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  • Yasgur's Farm
    Moderator
    • Feb 2005
    • 7091

    Time to regroup

    1) Lance Briggs- Our 1st and TKO for Chicago's #1 and Lance Briggs.
    2) Calvin Johnson- Bear #1 + our 2008 #1 for Cleveland's #1.
    3) Michael Bush- Our #2 and Ravens #3 to move up in round 2.
    4) Best LB available- Our #3.
  • Don't Panic
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Dec 2005
    • 4227

    #2
    Re: Time to regroup

    I had that dream last night too!

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    • Mr. Miyagi
      Lecter's Little *****

      • Sep 2002
      • 53616

      #3
      Re: Time to regroup

      No Briggs and no Johnson. No way.

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      • Don't Panic
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Dec 2005
        • 4227

        #4
        Re: Time to regroup

        Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
        No Briggs and no Johnson. No way.
        Wait a minute... you wouldn't want these guys in Bills unis or it is simply too much to give up (or too big a stretch, etc.)?

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        • jamze132
          Don’t hate…
          • Jun 2003
          • 29427

          #5
          Re: Time to regroup

          Unlikey but sounds good.

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          • clumping platelets

            #6
            Re: Time to regroup

            Time to wake up now

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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: Time to regroup

              Briggs and Johnsons combined contracts would be in the 90-110 Mil range.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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              • Earthquake Enyart
                Legendary Zoner
                • Jul 2002
                • 27521

                #8
                Re: Time to regroup

                I think we should take our 3rd and trade it for Peyton Manning.

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                • RockStar36
                  Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 24761

                  #9
                  Re: Time to regroup

                  I wouldn't want Briggs at all.

                  The people that hated McGahee and want Briggs need to realize what they are actually saying.

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                  • Yasgur's Farm
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7091

                    #10
                    Re: Time to regroup

                    Originally posted by Night Train
                    Briggs and Johnsons combined contracts would be in the 90-110 Mil range.
                    You're going for the shock factor here by throwing out the big numbers. If you look at it logically, from a yearly impact, you can begin to see how it is indeed possible...

                    Briggs contract would average $7M per year. As for the 2007 impact... we have the cap room... The question is, do we have the "cash to cap room"? I think we do but none of us know for sure.

                    Calvin Johnson's 2007 impact would be minimal due to the rookie pool number assigned by the NFL. Again, cap room is there... Is "cash to cap"?

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                    • OpIv37
                      Acid Douching Asswipe
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 101344

                      #11
                      Re: Time to regroup

                      Originally posted by RockStar36
                      I wouldn't want Briggs at all.

                      The people that hated McGahee and want Briggs need to realize what they are actually saying.
                      How so?

                      The Bills drafted McGahee in the first round despite his knee injury and knowing he wouldn't be available for a year. Then they traded Henry so McGahee could start. And McGahee repaid them by getting less than 1000 yards, working out in Miami, and shooting his mouth of to the media. He was good for half a season at the end of '04 and did nothing in '05 and '06.

                      Meanwhile, Lance Brings has played four solid years at league minimum for the Bears. He made an immediate impact on the team, and the team rewarded him by offering a contract that was under market value, then franchising him and potentially costing him millions of dollars. Adalius Thomas got over $20 million in guaranteed money whereas the franchise tender is only $7.2 million.

                      McGahee was an underperforming player who stirred up trouble despite the fact that the team gave him every opportunity they possibly could. Briggs is a HUGE contributor to his team who never caused problems until his team made a move that directly cost him millions of dollars. I fail to see the similarity between McGahee and Briggs.
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                      • Night Train
                        Retired - On Several Levels
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33117

                        #12
                        Re: Time to regroup

                        Originally posted by draz54
                        You're going for the shock factor here by throwing out the big numbers. If you look at it logically, from a yearly impact, you can begin to see how it is indeed possible...

                        Briggs contract would average $7M per year. As for the 2007 impact... we have the cap room... The question is, do we have the "cash to cap room"? I think we do but none of us know for sure.

                        Calvin Johnson's 2007 impact would be minimal due to the rookie pool number assigned by the NFL. Again, cap room is there... Is "cash to cap"?
                        I'm more worried about the upfront bonus. The actual final numbers over the entire contract mean little, much like the Dockery contract.

                        Dockery gets the bonus, with the first 4 years having a low yearly salary . It jumps in year 5, which he will never see without a redo.

                        So in reality, the Dockery contract is 4 years, 18.5 Mil.- 20 Mil. Not 7 years 49 Mil, which is only important to the agents ( attracting clients ). Dockery will never see year 5 of this deal.

                        That's why wingnuts lke Pat screaming about the 49 Mil means little to me.
                        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                        • L.A. Playa
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 19295

                          #13
                          Re: Time to regroup

                          Briggs much like Roosevelt Colvin is the product of playing next to Brian Urlacher who is probably the best ILB in football, he gets all teh attention which frees up Briggs to make plays.

                          If Briggs leaves the Bears he will not be worth the big contract he will demand and last time I checked though Crowell is a good player he is nowhere near the league of Urlacher

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                          • RockStar36
                            Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 24761

                            #14
                            Re: Time to regroup

                            Originally posted by I love L.A.
                            Briggs much like Roosevelt Colvin is the product of playing next to Brian Urlacher who is probably the best ILB in football, he gets all teh attention which frees up Briggs to make plays.

                            If Briggs leaves the Bears he will not be worth the big contract he will demand and last time I checked though Crowell is a good player he is nowhere near the league of Urlacher
                            I'm glad someone gets it.

                            I like Briggs and wouldn't mind him on my team, but not for the amount of money he is asking.

                            Not to mention who his agent is. I'd rather not deal with it.

                            D & S Sports



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                            • THATHURMANATOR
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 69112

                              #15
                              Re: Time to regroup

                              Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                              I think we should take our 3rd and trade it for Peyton Manning.
                              Thats a little much. I was thinking a 4th for LT

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