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  • HAMMER
    I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
    • Jul 2003
    • 8132

    Our new starting CB, shut down potential

    I stole this post from Bagel at TBD, I thought it was excellent.

    The player is described as follows:

    5'11", 189, 4.43, Excellent college football program, Scout grade of 90 (Behind Leon Hall (95) and Darrelle Revis (91), tied with Aaron Ross)

    Strengths: Possesses ideal height, adequate bulk and the frame to get bigger. Is a smooth and fluid athlete for his size. Possesses good top-end speed. He has long arms and good leaping ability to challenge for the ball in the air. He is intelligent and should be able to learn from his mistakes. He plays aggressively in run support. Fills hard, takes decent angles and has developed into a solid open field tackler. Shows playmaking instincts when the ball is in the air and he has outstanding ball skills. He has experience returning punts and shows NFL upside in that capacity.

    Weaknesses: Recognition skills are below average. Remains too inconsistent in coverage. Gambles too often and will give up too many big plays consequently. He gives away his tendencies and got burnt for it on several occasions as a junior (see Minnesota and Texas games). Lacks ideal bulk and strength. Will have some more trouble taking on bigger blockers and taking down bigger runners in the NFL.

    Overall: He played as a reserve defensive back in all 13 games of his true freshman season. He started nine of the 12 games that he played as a sophomore and finished with 61 tackles, four interceptions and 14 passes broken up. He started all 12 games as a junior and finished with 56 tackles, six TFL, one sack, one interception and nine PBU. He is an early entry prospect with loads of upside but also lots of room to improve. He possesses an outstanding combination of size, athletic ability and speed, and he also flashes playmaking skills as a man-to-man cover corner. However, he is inconsistent in terms of his technique and recognition skills in coverage, which leads to entirely too many big plays allowed on his watch. In short, he is by no means a finished product but he has the potential to develop into a shutdown cover corner in the NFL, which is why he could come off the draft board late in the first round.
    ___________________________

    This is last year’s pre-draft profile of Ashton Youboty. Presumably, his two greatest deficiencies (1) inconsistent technique and (2) lack of bulk have been somewhat addressed in his first year with the Bills. Perhaps our hole at cornerback is not as deep as some fear. Give the brother a chance.
  • Slim
    Registered User
    • Apr 2004
    • 7597

    #2
    Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

    Is this Chris Housten?

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    • Slim
      Registered User
      • Apr 2004
      • 7597

      #3
      Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

      Or are you making a point with Ashton. Im really confused.

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      • patmoran2006
        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
        • Dec 2005
        • 19840

        #4
        Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

        Originally posted by slimschmittie
        Is this Chris Housten?
        No, its Ashton Youboty from last year.. WHo's built like..


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        • patmoran2006
          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
          • Dec 2005
          • 19840

          #5
          Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

          Originally posted by HAMMER
          I stole this post from Bagel at TBD, I thought it was excellent.

          The player is described as follows:

          5'11", 189, 4.43, Excellent college football program, Scout grade of 90 (Behind Leon Hall (95) and Darrelle Revis (91), tied with Aaron Ross)

          Strengths: Possesses ideal height, adequate bulk and the frame to get bigger. Is a smooth and fluid athlete for his size. Possesses good top-end speed. He has long arms and good leaping ability to challenge for the ball in the air. He is intelligent and should be able to learn from his mistakes. He plays aggressively in run support. Fills hard, takes decent angles and has developed into a solid open field tackler. Shows playmaking instincts when the ball is in the air and he has outstanding ball skills. He has experience returning punts and shows NFL upside in that capacity.

          Weaknesses: Recognition skills are below average. Remains too inconsistent in coverage. Gambles too often and will give up too many big plays consequently. He gives away his tendencies and got burnt for it on several occasions as a junior (see Minnesota and Texas games). Lacks ideal bulk and strength. Will have some more trouble taking on bigger blockers and taking down bigger runners in the NFL.

          Overall: He played as a reserve defensive back in all 13 games of his true freshman season. He started nine of the 12 games that he played as a sophomore and finished with 61 tackles, four interceptions and 14 passes broken up. He started all 12 games as a junior and finished with 56 tackles, six TFL, one sack, one interception and nine PBU. He is an early entry prospect with loads of upside but also lots of room to improve. He possesses an outstanding combination of size, athletic ability and speed, and he also flashes playmaking skills as a man-to-man cover corner. However, he is inconsistent in terms of his technique and recognition skills in coverage, which leads to entirely too many big plays allowed on his watch. In short, he is by no means a finished product but he has the potential to develop into a shutdown cover corner in the NFL, which is why he could come off the draft board late in the first round.
          ___________________________

          This is last year’s pre-draft profile of Ashton Youboty. Presumably, his two greatest deficiencies (1) inconsistent technique and (2) lack of bulk have been somewhat addressed in his first year with the Bills. Perhaps our hole at cornerback is not as deep as some fear. Give the brother a chance.
          I groaned you because I dont like you.

          However.. I do think you're on to something.. He absolutely has starter potential and could be a good one at that.


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          • Devin
            The Octagon
            • Apr 2003
            • 23878

            #6
            Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

            I thanks him to make up for PMs groan.

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            • Carlton Bailey

              #7
              Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

              Originally posted by patmoran2006
              No, its Ashton Youboty from last year.. WHo's built like..

              So was Merton Hanks. He was pretty good.

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              • patmoran2006
                Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                • Dec 2005
                • 19840

                #8
                Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                Thought of him too.. Yep


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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  #9
                  Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                  Merton Hanks! The Human Bobble-head Doll!

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                  • realdealryan
                    realdealrex
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1838

                    #10
                    Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                    Merton Hanks tackled receivers who looked like this:


                    Now they look like this:

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                    • B-DON
                      hi
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1985

                      #11
                      Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                      I loved that dance. Goes to show you not all celebrating is ba for the game. I dont know one person who hated that dance.

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                      • ublinkwescore
                        Sab and TD are insignificant
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 24178

                        #12
                        Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                        Originally posted by B-DON
                        I loved that dance. Goes to show you not all celebrating is ba for the game. I dont know one person who hated that dance.
                        I hated that dance
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                        • Nighthawk
                          Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 15437

                          #13
                          Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                          Originally posted by HAMMER
                          I stole this post from Bagel at TBD, I thought it was excellent.

                          The player is described as follows:

                          5'11", 189, 4.43, Excellent college football program, Scout grade of 90 (Behind Leon Hall (95) and Darrelle Revis (91), tied with Aaron Ross)

                          Strengths: Possesses ideal height, adequate bulk and the frame to get bigger. Is a smooth and fluid athlete for his size. Possesses good top-end speed. He has long arms and good leaping ability to challenge for the ball in the air. He is intelligent and should be able to learn from his mistakes. He plays aggressively in run support. Fills hard, takes decent angles and has developed into a solid open field tackler. Shows playmaking instincts when the ball is in the air and he has outstanding ball skills. He has experience returning punts and shows NFL upside in that capacity.

                          Weaknesses: Recognition skills are below average. Remains too inconsistent in coverage. Gambles too often and will give up too many big plays consequently. He gives away his tendencies and got burnt for it on several occasions as a junior (see Minnesota and Texas games). Lacks ideal bulk and strength. Will have some more trouble taking on bigger blockers and taking down bigger runners in the NFL.

                          Overall: He played as a reserve defensive back in all 13 games of his true freshman season. He started nine of the 12 games that he played as a sophomore and finished with 61 tackles, four interceptions and 14 passes broken up. He started all 12 games as a junior and finished with 56 tackles, six TFL, one sack, one interception and nine PBU. He is an early entry prospect with loads of upside but also lots of room to improve. He possesses an outstanding combination of size, athletic ability and speed, and he also flashes playmaking skills as a man-to-man cover corner. However, he is inconsistent in terms of his technique and recognition skills in coverage, which leads to entirely too many big plays allowed on his watch. In short, he is by no means a finished product but he has the potential to develop into a shutdown cover corner in the NFL, which is why he could come off the draft board late in the first round.
                          ___________________________

                          This is last year’s pre-draft profile of Ashton Youboty. Presumably, his two greatest deficiencies (1) inconsistent technique and (2) lack of bulk have been somewhat addressed in his first year with the Bills. Perhaps our hole at cornerback is not as deep as some fear. Give the brother a chance.
                          I agree. How quickly everybody forgets that this kid was viewed as a late 1st rounder in last years draft by many scouts. I would have liked the coaching staff to play him more at the end of last season, but I see no reason to take a CB in the 1st round this year. Let him play and see what he can do.

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                          • ShadowHawk7
                            Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 2274

                            #14
                            Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                            Good thread. This is actually similiar to our DT situation. We have a VERY talented prospect who didn't get on the field much as a rookie but spent a year in the system. We know someone needs to step up at the position, but we're not giving the previous prospects the chance to prove why they were a 1st round talent.

                            Of course I'm talking about Youboty and McCargo. Many of us here already want to draft a first round talent to replace a first round talent who hasn't been given his shot yet. Does that make football sense?

                            I understand our DT situation is more dire than CB, but I still don't think that justifies taking another one until the 3rd round. One could make the arguement that we're not replacing McCargo's side, but instead Williams/Anderson's side. To this, i would argue that having a bonafide MLB like Willis to complement Crowell and Spikes/Ellison would benefit us more than using a unproven player to replace Williams who did a solid job as it is as a rookie.

                            So basically I'm saying we shouldn't be drafting too high at either DT or LB until we give our other 1st round talents a legitimate shot.

                            Obviously, this cannot be said about RB, LB, and WR, which is why I think we should draft high at those positions first.
                            "It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
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                            • Saratoga Slim
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4154

                              #15
                              Re: Our new starting CB, shut down potential

                              Originally posted by ShadowHawk7
                              Good thread. This is actually similiar to our DT situation. We have a VERY talented prospect who didn't get on the field much as a rookie but spent a year in the system. We know someone needs to step up at the position, but we're not giving the previous prospects the chance to prove why they were a 1st round talent.

                              Of course I'm talking about Youboty and McCargo. Many of us here already want to draft a first round talent to replace a first round talent who hasn't been given his shot yet. Does that make football sense?

                              I understand our DT situation is more dire than CB, but I still don't think that justifies taking another one until the 3rd round. One could make the arguement that we're not replacing McCargo's side, but instead Williams/Anderson's side. To this, i would argue that having a bonafide MLB like Willis to complement Crowell and Spikes/Ellison would benefit us more than using a unproven player to replace Williams who did a solid job as it is as a rookie.

                              So basically I'm saying we shouldn't be drafting too high at either DT or LB until we give our other 1st round talents a legitimate shot.

                              Obviously, this cannot be said about RB, LB, and WR, which is why I think we should draft high at those positions first.
                              I still want Okoye. But you've got a point.
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