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Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 09:23 AM
The Culpepper over Brees thing sparked the idea. What other ones can you think of?

I got Williams over Bush by Houston last year.

RJ over Flutie maybe?

gr8slayer
03-22-2007, 09:25 AM
The Culpepper over Brees thing sparked the idea. What other ones can you think of?

I got Williams over Bush by Houston last year.

RJ over Flutie maybe?
Can I just say the Miami Dolphins? Or do I have to break down every single one of their **** ups?

jamze132
03-22-2007, 09:25 AM
Maybe drafting Mike Williams 4th overall?

Drafting Tim Couch #1

RockStar36
03-22-2007, 09:26 AM
Making Nate Clements the highest paid defensive player in NFL history.

Earthquake Enyart
03-22-2007, 09:27 AM
The Hershel Walker trade.

The OJ trade.

Dr. Lecter
03-22-2007, 09:28 AM
The Culpepper over Brees thing sparked the idea. What other ones can you think of?

I got Williams over Bush by Houston last year.

RJ over Flutie maybe?

RJ over Flutie is not even close. (Whether it is the playoff game or the off-season move)

Ryan Leaf #2 overall. Alvin Harper's big deal with Tampa. TO to Philly. San Fran's trade fo OJ. NO trading their entire draft for Ricky.

patmoran2006
03-22-2007, 09:32 AM
For the Bills, its hiring Mularkey..

He took a playoff worthy team and made them into scrubs.. Almost any coach in the NFL gets that team in the playoffs.. twice

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 09:32 AM
What about Atlanta trading up to get Vick when San Diego slid down to #5 and got Tomlinson? Vick isn't a complete bust just yet but LT would've been much much better.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 09:33 AM
For the Bills, its hiring Mularkey..

He took a playoff worthy team and made them into scrubs.. Almost any coach in the NFL gets that team in the playoffs.. twice
Which reminds me of Steve Spurrier.

Jan Reimers
03-22-2007, 09:34 AM
Tony Mandarich.
Brian Bosworth.

patmoran2006
03-22-2007, 09:35 AM
What about Atlanta trading up to get Vick when San Diego slid down to #5 and got Tomlinson? Vick isn't a complete bust just yet but LT would've been much much better.
SD also took Brees in round two that year.. so they coulda had both

OpIv37
03-22-2007, 09:35 AM
Dolpins and Culpepper may be on that list soon.

What about McGahee over Larry Johnson and keeping him over Travis Henry? It may not be worst in NFL history but it was definitely a bad one.

Earthquake Enyart
03-22-2007, 09:36 AM
Tony Mandarich.
Brian Bosworth.
Tom Cousineau
Tom Ruud
Al Cowlings

:wail:

Romes
03-22-2007, 09:36 AM
Ryan Leaf comes to mind.

Wasn't Unitas traded to colts in the begining of his career?

Earthquake Enyart
03-22-2007, 09:37 AM
I think Unitas was cut. So was Jack Kemp.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 09:45 AM
SD also took Brees in round two that year.. so they coulda had both
Actually SD took Brees with their own pick, not the one Atlanta gave them.

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 09:47 AM
The falcons trading the 23 pick in round one for Peerless price. Then the bills using it on McGahee. both squads get black eyes for that one.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 09:48 AM
The falcons trading the 23 pick in round one for Peerless price. Then the bills using it on McGahee. both squads get black eyes for that one.
And then we got Peerless back. That's a double whammy. :ill:

justasportsfan
03-22-2007, 09:50 AM
Ryan Leaf #2 overall. . :up:

justasportsfan
03-22-2007, 09:51 AM
For the Bills, its hiring Mularkey..




Donahoe.

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 09:52 AM
I can find one in about every lions draft in the 2000's,

number 2 for Charles Rodgers
Mike Williams

RockStar36
03-22-2007, 09:53 AM
And then we got Peerless back. That's a double whammy. :ill:

It's actually a good move for the Bills.

It basically went full circle and the Bills acquired 3 draft picks in the mix.

The King
03-22-2007, 09:55 AM
New Orleans dumping their entire draft for Williams

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 09:56 AM
It's actually a good move for the Bills.

It basically went full circle and the Bills acquired 3 draft picks in the mix.

We also cut Henry loose which many including myself believe bit us in the arse.

njsue
03-22-2007, 09:58 AM
One of the worst decisions IMO was when Mike Ditka gave up all the draft picks for Ricky Williams. What a stunod!

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 09:59 AM
How about that offseason where the redskins signed every over the hill vet they could find with a big name. Bruce, Sanders, lol that still makes me laugh today.

Earthquake Enyart
03-22-2007, 10:00 AM
I can find one in about every lions draft in the 2000's,

number 2 for Charles Rodgers
Mike Williams
Don't forget Joey.

casdhf
03-22-2007, 10:02 AM
What did the Colts ever end up getting for Elway?

justasportsfan
03-22-2007, 10:04 AM
It's actually a good move for the Bills.

It basically went full circle and the Bills acquired 3 draft picks in the mix.
Didn't we acquire Willis for trading Peerless ? :idunno: If so, that ended up being a waste of time.

MikeInRoch
03-22-2007, 10:04 AM
Are you basing the badness of the decision on the information that was available at the time, or on the 'final result'. It's probably not fair to judge based on information that was not available at the time. There are many decisions that were stupid at the time - the Walker trade is probably the prime example.

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 10:16 AM
Ryan Leaf #2 overall.

Seriously, Bill Polian knows his ****.

He took Manning over Leaf - considered very controversial at the time.

He took James over Williams - considered idiotic at the time.

He took Freeney very early in the first - considered a big reach at the time.

gr8slayer
03-22-2007, 10:19 AM
Drafting Aaron Rodgers.

RockStar36
03-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Didn't we acquire Willis for trading Peerless ? :idunno: If so, that ended up being a waste of time.

Peerless to ATL for 23rd overall pick (Willis)

Peerless comes back to Buffalo

Willis goes to Baltimore for 3 draft picks

So yes, kind of a waste of time. But it worked in Buffalo's favor in the long run.

RockStar36
03-22-2007, 10:22 AM
Drafting Aaron Rodgers.

Bad? Yes.

Worst in history? Negative.

Pinkerton Security
03-22-2007, 10:23 AM
One of the worst decisions IMO was when Mike Ditka gave up all the draft picks for Ricky Williams. What a stunod!

That is def. the one that comes to mind, at least for me, simply because at the time people were scratching their heads, and now that Ricky is a potsmoking CFLer who has had a crazier past 5 years than Keith Richards could even imagine, it seems even more absurd. Giving an entire draft for ONE player, especially when the team is the Saints, and they were not a great team in those years.

what makes it seem even crazier are all the side notes, like the fact that Williams' contract was originally negotiated by Master P's label, the fact the he wore his helmet during press conferences, had social anxiety disorder and depression, and many others. what a strange and horrible decision.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 10:25 AM
Peerless to ATL for 23rd overall pick (Willis)

Peerless comes back to Buffalo

Willis goes to Baltimore for 3 draft picks

So yes, kind of a waste of time. But it worked in Buffalo's favor in the long run.
So we basically got 2 3rds and a 7th for free. :up:

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 10:25 AM
That is def. the one that comes to mind, at least for me, simply because at the time people were scratching their heads, and now that Ricky is a potsmoking CFLer who has had a crazier past 5 years than Keith Richards could even imagine, it seems even more absurd. Giving an entire draft for ONE player, especially when the team is the Saints, and they were not a great team in those years.

what makes it seem even crazier are all the side notes, like the fact that Williams' contract was originally negotiated by Master P's label, the fact the he wore his helmet during press conferences, had social anxiety disorder and depression, and many others. what a strange and horrible decision.
I did enjoy the wedding dress

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 10:27 AM
You know who's had a really bad run with first round draft picks...

The Dolphins!

1997 -- Yatil Green
1998 -- John Avery (over Randy Moss - traded out of 19th spot)
1999 -- NO PICK
2000 -- NO PICK
2001 -- Jamar Fletcher (over Drew Brees)
2002 -- NO PICK
2003 -- NO PICK
2004 -- Vernon Carey (He's OK)

Mitchy moo
03-22-2007, 10:28 AM
Tony Mandarich.
Brian Bosworth.

they gave the boz all the money & he spent 2 minutes on the fields and made bad c movies, lol. i'll take him.

gr8slayer
03-22-2007, 10:29 AM
You know who's had a really bad run with first round draft picks...

The Dolphins!

1997 -- Yatil Green
1998 -- John Avery (over Randy Moss - traded out of 19th spot)
1999 -- NO PICK
2000 -- NO PICK
2001 -- Jamar Fletcher (over Drew Brees)
2002 -- NO PICK
2003 -- NO PICK
2004 -- Vernon Carey (He's OK)
Wow, that is pretty sad. Ronnie Brown has not lived up to his draft spot either and their savior at Safety they drafted last year didn't do dick.

TheGhostofJimKelly
03-22-2007, 10:29 AM
NFL teams taking:

Gaston Green, John Stephens, Lorenzo White, Brad Muster, Craig Heyward, Ickey Woods, and Tony Jeffery before the Bills took Thurman Thomas.

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 10:30 AM
Wow, that is pretty sad. Ronnie Brown has not lived up to his draft spot either and their savior at Safety they drafted last year didn't do dick.

LOL!

Yeah, I figured I'd go easy on the Fish and leave Brown and Allen off the list since the jury is still out on both.

gr8slayer
03-22-2007, 10:31 AM
LOL!

Yeah, I figured I'd go easy on the Fish and leave them off the list since the jury is still out on Brown and Allen.
Jury is not out on Brown anymore. You get drafted that high and do as little as he has done you get marked bust untill proven otherwise.

Mr. Pink
03-22-2007, 10:35 AM
Don't diss Tim Couch. He was stuck on a team with the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL. Joe Montana woulda sucked on those Browns teams. Not saying Couch was good but he wasn't terrible either.

I'll stick with the Browns for worst personnel decision ever.

In 1995, Belichick and company wanted Kyle Brady at 10. When he went off the board at 9 to the Jets they panicked and sent the pic to SF for 49ers’ 1995 1st [30th overall], 3rd [94th overall], 4th [119th overall] and 1996 1st round pick.

They then selected Craig Powell LB OSU at the 30th selection. Mike Frederick DE WV in round 3 and traded away the 4th rounder. Craig Powell had an NFL career that rivals your local supermarket cashier.

Considering most of the Browns staff was then fired by Modell after the move, I don't care what Baltimore got with that 1996 1st rounder. Terrible decision made by a panicked front office.

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 10:36 AM
Jury is not out on Brown anymore. You get drafted that high and do as little as he has done you get marked bust untill proven otherwise.

Brown has averaged 4.3 ypc over his career.

And he (barely) surpassed 1,000 yards in 2006.

He's not bad. I wouldn't label him a bust just yet, but obviously the Fish had much higher expectations for him.

L.A. Playa
03-22-2007, 10:46 AM
Jeff George #1 overall

venis2k1
03-22-2007, 10:48 AM
You know who's had a really bad run with first round draft picks...

The Dolphins!

1997 -- Yatil Green
1998 -- John Avery (over Randy Moss - traded out of 19th spot)
1999 -- NO PICK
2000 -- NO PICK
2001 -- Jamar Fletcher (over Drew Brees)
2002 -- NO PICK
2003 -- NO PICK
2004 -- Vernon Carey (He's OK)

hey, John Avery tore it up in the XFL. GO Enforcers.

Pinkerton Security
03-22-2007, 10:49 AM
Don't diss Tim Couch. He was stuck on a team with the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL. Joe Montana woulda sucked on those Browns teams. Not saying Couch was good but he wasn't terrible either.

I'll stick with the Browns for worst personnel decision ever.

In 1995, Belichick and company wanted Kyle Brady at 10. When he went off the board at 9 to the Jets they panicked and sent the pic to SF for 49ers’ 1995 1st [30th overall], 3rd [94th overall], 4th [119th overall] and 1996 1st round pick.

They then selected Craig Powell LB OSU at the 30th selection. Mike Frederick DE WV in round 3 and traded away the 4th rounder. Craig Powell had an NFL career that rivals your local supermarket cashier.

Considering most of the Browns staff was then fired by Modell after the move, I don't care what Baltimore got with that 1996 1st rounder. Terrible decision made by a panicked front office.

You bringing up the Jets made me think of them drafting a kicker with their 2nd rounder in 05, Mike Nugent. And also the Raiders taking Janikowski with the 17th pick in the 2000 draft. Kickers? at least the bills never did that, i dont how care how good a kicker has done in college, no way should they be drafted higher than the 6th round. Look at Robbie Gould, a guy who was signed as a free agent and lit up the league, and there are so many others like him.

RockStar36
03-22-2007, 10:53 AM
Erik Flowers!!

Gunzlingr
03-22-2007, 10:55 AM
Herchel Walker trade hands down.

Devin
03-22-2007, 10:56 AM
For the Bills id have to say either Mike Williams at 4 or Rob Johnson. Least in recent memory.

The H. Walker trade is pretty high up there. Atlanta trading up for Vick and missing out on all world RB Tomlinson would be as well.

I wouldnt consider Bush/Mario yet because its only been one season and Mario plays on a pretty terrible Houston DL.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 10:59 AM
Drew Bledsoe #1 overall.

Drew Bledsoe for 1st round pick.

Drew Bledsoe in Dallas.

:ill:

L.A. Playa
03-22-2007, 11:26 AM
For the Bills it was Either Walt Palutski #1 overall or

Tom "I'm Not Gay " Cousineau # 1

more cowbell
03-22-2007, 11:48 AM
eric hicks...ryan simms...basically a lot of chiefs draft picks

venis2k1
03-22-2007, 11:53 AM
I got a fever...and the only perscription is more cowbell. but seriously, prolly trading for rob johnson???

casdhf
03-22-2007, 12:06 PM
What did the Colts ever end up getting for Elway?

The Colts traded him to the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos) for QB Mark Herrmann, rights to OL Chris Hinton and a first-round pick (OG Ron Solt) in the 1985 NFL Draft

:ill:

feldspar
03-22-2007, 01:06 PM
You guys already mentioned some of the worst.

At the present moment this one looks pretty bad:

The whole Eli Manning / Philip Rivers thing. The Giants gave up 2 firsts, a third, and a fifth to get Eli, who's not looking like his brother.

The Giants get Eli Manning.

The Chargers get Philip Rivers, Shawne Merriman, and Nate Kaeding (and trade the Bucs for LT Roman Oben).

The Chargers will also get a 3rd round compensation pick for releasing Drew Brees, the man, of course that Rivers replaced.

In hindsight, and at this point, it looks like the Chargers got the better end of that one.

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 01:11 PM
You guys already mentioned some of the worst.

At the present moment this one looks pretty bad:

The whole Eli Manning / Philip Rivers thing. The Giants gave up 2 firsts, a third, and a fifth to get Eli, who's not looking like his brother.

The Giants get Eli Manning.

The Chargers get Philip Rivers, Shawne Merriman, and Nate Kaeding (and trade the Bucs for LT Roman Oben).

The Chargers will also get a 3rd round compensation pick for releasing Drew Brees, the man, of course that Rivers replaced.

In hindsight, and at this point, it looks like the Chargers got the better end of that one.

By a long shot.

Of the entire 2004 quarterback class, Philip Rivers was far and away my number one.

So I was surprised that New York threw so much at San Diego to obtain Eli Manning.

Especially since Manning declared he would not play for the Chargers.

NY had the edge in negotiations but blew it.

So they gave up a slew of picks and the better quarterback.

Stupid.

The King
03-22-2007, 01:23 PM
Drew Bledsoe #1 overall.

Drew Bledsoe for 1st round pick.

Drew Bledsoe in Dallas.

:ill:

Bledsoe was actually a great pic by Parcells, if you recall the debate at the time was Rick Mirer vs Bledsoe. Drew sure as hell had a better NFL career. And as far as numbers go any QB can be proud to retire with Drews numbers... he just stayed a little too long.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 01:37 PM
True. He was also very classy for us until he was ditched by TD.

feldspar
03-22-2007, 01:39 PM
Has Bledsoe retired yet, or is he hanging on to the thread of a hope that someone will make him the starter?

feldspar
03-22-2007, 01:39 PM
Has Bledsoe retired yet, or is he hanging on to the thread of a hope that someone will make him the starter?

JoeMama
03-22-2007, 01:39 PM
Dwu Blumbo probably knows his days are numbered.

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 01:41 PM
Has Bledsoe retired yet, or is he hanging on to the thread of a hope that someone will make him the starter?
I bet he's waiting for Oakland to call. Good fit there too.

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 02:14 PM
John Sullivan number six pick of the draft by New Orleans

The Answer
03-22-2007, 02:23 PM
The Culpepper over Brees thing sparked the idea. What other ones can you think of?

I got Williams over Bush by Houston last year.

RJ over Flutie maybe?

You sir are correct! We'd have a superbowl title right now if The Little General played during the playoffs back in the 99' season.

~The Answer

justasportsfan
03-22-2007, 02:26 PM
You sir are correct! We'd have a superbowl title right now if The Little General played during the playoffs back in the 99' season.

~The Answer:coocoo:

camelcowboy
03-22-2007, 02:35 PM
You sir are correct! We'd have a superbowl title right now if The Little General played during the playoffs back in the 99' season.

~The Answer

:roflmao:

Mr. Miyagi
03-22-2007, 02:35 PM
:coocoo:
RJ sucks.

Not you RJ. :snicker:

The Answer
03-22-2007, 02:38 PM
:roflmao:

So The Question finds this amusing - no surprise here.

~The Answer

TheGhostofJimKelly
03-22-2007, 02:44 PM
Erik Flowers!!

Actually, considering how crappy that 2000 draft was, I don't know if you can consider that one of the worst. That draft didn't yield to many great players after Flowers. You might as well stamp it the 2000 draft.

Here are the DEs that went after Flowers:

Darren Howard
John Engelberger
Michael Boireau
Byron Frisch
Junior Ioane
Alvin McKinley
Gillis Wilson
John Milem

justasportsfan
03-22-2007, 02:45 PM
RJ sucks.



word

Pinkerton Security
03-22-2007, 05:29 PM
I bet he's waiting for Oakland to call. Good fit there too.

HAHAHA can you imagine Bledsoe there? It would be one of the most painful displays, with him attemtpting to evade the 11 guys running at him unblocked since their line is so bad. Young Andrew Walter and fairly nimble (for a QB) Aaron Brooks both nearly died last year behind that disgrace of a line. Lets hope Langston Walker wasn't the reason for that badness...

HHURRICANE
03-22-2007, 05:33 PM
What about Atlanta trading up to get Vick when San Diego slid down to #5 and got Tomlinson? Vick isn't a complete bust just yet but LT would've been much much better.

What about Atlanta getting rid of Favre?

GarnOFreak
03-22-2007, 05:35 PM
I'd have to say.....Atlanta trading a young Favre to Green Bay for chump change.

The Cincinatti bengals drafting top 5 picks for 13 years basically and not finding a winner.

Buffatexas
03-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Neil O'Donnell to the Jets

Al13
03-22-2007, 07:34 PM
the dolphins making dave wannstedt their head coach, he set this team back so many years

herschel walker trade

mario over reggie

gr8slayer
03-22-2007, 07:35 PM
the dolphins making dave wannstedt their head coach, he set this team back so many years

herschel walker trade

mario over reggie
Wannstedt > Saban

DynaPaul
03-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Keeping Lonnie Johnson for so long.

Devin
03-22-2007, 08:09 PM
What about Atlanta getting rid of Favre?

Good Call.

Devin
03-22-2007, 08:10 PM
I bet he's waiting for Oakland to call. Good fit there too.

Or Miami :rofl:

Al13
03-22-2007, 08:15 PM
Wannstedt > Saban

although the liar quit on his team, he didnīt set the dolphins back as many years as the wannstedt regime did. talking about bonehead draft picks and trades

Al13
03-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Jury is not out on Brown anymore. You get drafted that high and do as little as he has done you get marked bust untill proven otherwise.


so cadilliac and benson must be out of the league in a couple of years then

YardRat
03-22-2007, 09:14 PM
The Herschel Walker trade and Ditka's move to get Williams rank up there.

Cousineau, Ruud, and Booker Moore were pretty bad picks for the Bills.

feldspar
03-22-2007, 09:34 PM
You sir are correct! We'd have a superbowl title right now if The Little General played during the playoffs back in the 99' season.

~The Answer

Don't let 'em get you down.

I happen to agree with this.