Marv you cheap idiot

[THATHURMANATOR]

How dare you get rid of an aging linebacker(with an achiles injury, and one that had asked to be traded) and a backup QB and bring in an actual player that will help right away....... :ill:

OH BOO HOOO we are down a linebacker. WAAAA we certainly can't draft a replacement... IMO Ellison was starting the whole time anyways.

[Devin]

How dare you get rid of an aging linebacker(with an achiles injury, and one that had asked to be traded) and a backup QB and bring in an actual player that will help right away....... :ill:

OH BOO HOOO we are down a linebacker. WAAAA we certainly can't draft a replacement... IMO Ellison was starting the whole time anyways.

:roflmao:

Nice 1 Thurm!

[Nighthawk]

How dare you get rid of an aging linebacker(with an achiles injury, and one that had asked to be traded) and a backup QB and bring in an actual player that will help right away....... :ill:

OH BOO HOOO we are down a linebacker. WAAAA we certainly can't draft a replacement... IMO Ellison was starting the whole time anyways.

I like the trade, but Ellison doesn't make me feel comfortable about our LB's. I'm interested to see what we do in the draft.

[Goobylal]

The Ellison, Crowell, Willis era has arrived! Be afraid Bills opponents, be very afraid.

[The Spaz]

I was about to go ape**** from the title...lol.:rofl:

[OpIv37]

How dare you get rid of an aging linebacker(with an achiles injury, and one that had asked to be traded) and a backup QB and bring in an actual player that will help right away....... :ill:

OH BOO HOOO we are down a linebacker. WAAAA we certainly can't draft a replacement... IMO Ellison was starting the whole time anyways.

If Ellison starts for Spikes who starts for Fletcher? No matter how you do it, we're short a starting LB.

Oh, and we started a bunch of draft picks on D last year. It got us 7-9 and 27th against the run. Once again... doing the same thing but expecting better results. Completely illogical.

I do like getting Walker. But we're still short LB's.

[JoeMama]

Ellison at SLB. Crowell at MLB. Rookie at WLB.

I think it's accepted we're going to choose Takeo Spikes' replacement in the first or second round of the draft.

[Talk0fNewYork]

We don't need to adress D-Line in this draft we got 4 starters and a fat pussy in Anderson. Ellison will start the season 1,000 ZB's on it to any takers. OLB will be adressed in one of the 1st 2 rounds.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Ellison at SLB. Crowell at MLB. Rookie at WLB.

I think it's accepted we're going to choose Takeo Spikes' replacement in the first or second round of the draft.
Not sure why Op doesn't understand this still but good post.

[Devin]

Ellison at SLB. Crowell at MLB. Rookie at WLB.

I think it's accepted we're going to choose Takeo Spikes' replacement in the first or second round of the draft.

Great post!

Crowell SLB. Willis at MLB. Ellison at WLB. Would work to! :jam:

[Illmatic15]

Dammit I dont want them to draft Willis, I want Lynch!

[The Spaz]

Dammit I dont want them to draft Willis, I want Lynch!

Maybe both!:pray:

[OpIv37]

Not sure why Op doesn't understand this still but good post.

ROOKIE AT WLB-

1. We don't have that person yet
2. We don't know if that player will be a bust or not- drafting is always a risk
3. We don't know if the player we want will be available at our pick
4. Rookies make ROOKIE mistakes. And it's not like Ellison is a seasoned vet.

I don't know why you don't understand this. I'm happy that we finally did something about the DL, but you don't just replace a guy like Spikes with a rookie. His production, maybe, but not his experience, leadership or mentality.

[HAMMER]

Pat has been awfully quiet tonight.

[streetkings01]

If Ellison starts for Spikes who starts for Fletcher? No matter how you do it, we're short a starting LB.

Oh, and we started a bunch of draft picks on D last year. It got us 7-9 and 27th against the run. Once again... doing the same thing but expecting better results. Completely illogical.

I do like getting Walker. But we're still short LB's.This will be the 2nd year for this team in this new defense....I think we will be alot better on D than some people think! Check the Bears ranking on D the 1st year Lovie was there, they went from #21 to #2 in his second year.

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

I just watched something on the Battle Of Troy this morning that reminded me of the achiles tendon.

[RockStar36]

If Ellison starts for Spikes who starts for Fletcher? No matter how you do it, we're short a starting LB.

Oh, and we started a bunch of draft picks on D last year. It got us 7-9 and 27th against the run. Once again... doing the same thing but expecting better results. Completely illogical.

I do like getting Walker. But we're still short LB's.

The team was 7-9 last year.

They also made dramatic improvements after the bye week.

The same improvements that could have resulted in a win @ New England and @ Detroit.

In my eyes the team that walked off the field in Baltimore was better than the 7-9 record they had.

Relax.

[gr8slayer]

I'd say Walker is addition by subtraction

[ublinkwescore]

How dare you get rid of an aging linebacker(with an achiles injury, and one that had asked to be traded) and a backup QB and bring in an actual player that will help right away....... :ill:

OH BOO HOOO we are down a linebacker. WAAAA we certainly can't draft a replacement... IMO Ellison was starting the whole time anyways.

Thurm, when I saw this thread, I wasn't sure who started it - I thought it may have been started by Pat Moran/Op/Hhurricane or someone - I was gonna make a point of negging who ever started it like 3 consecutive times until I got the sense of sarcasm from it...

so instead... :posrep:

[ublinkwescore]

We don't need to adress D-Line in this draft we got 4 starters and a fat pussy in Anderson. Ellison will start the season 1,000 ZB's on it to any takers. OLB will be adressed in one of the 1st 2 rounds.

someone on here said the deletions of Spikes and Holcombe equated to a savings of 6-7 mill in cap money...

maybe even right now, Marv is on the phone with Chicago seeking permission to negotiate with Briggs to see if a possible trade could happen.

[ublinkwescore]

Dammit I dont want them to draft Willis, I want Lynch!

Feel free to jump on my "Get Lance Briggs" bandwagon anytime!!

[HHURRICANE]

I like the trade but Op is 100% correct. I want to see everyone crap their pants when Willis is a 49er.

Ellison, Crowell, and some guy who misses his mom and misses a year of playing.

It's not take out it's "DiGorgio".

[HHURRICANE]

someone on here said the deletions of Spikes and Holcombe equated to a savings of 6-7 mill in cap money...

maybe even right now, Marv is on the phone with Chicago seeking permission to negotiate with Briggs to see if a possible trade could happen.

:roflmao:

[THATHURMANATOR]

but you don't just replace a guy like Spikes with a rookie. His production, maybe, but not his experience, leadership or mentality.
Replace what? he was HORRIBLE last year in the games he actually played in.

[RockStar36]

He didn't do a whole lot. I think it's the name Takeo Spikes that everyone is stuck on. People are failing to realize that he didn't do ****.

But wait...

He's TAKEO SPIKES!!!!!!

He was amazing 3 years ago.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Yeah Spikes was that guy who was amazing 3 years ago but 2 years ago blew out his Achiles. Did he play last year? I cant' even remember?

[OpIv37]

He didn't do a whole lot. I think it's the name Takeo Spikes that everyone is stuck on. People are failing to realize that he didn't do ****.

But wait...

He's TAKEO SPIKES!!!!!!

He was amazing 3 years ago.

Fair enough. I'm still waiting to hear who we have that's equal or better.

[ublinkwescore]

:roflmao:

I love the reply, but no rebuttal...

[unpaid_bills]

Well this is the harsh reality of pro football - the business side. Takeo will be missed both on the field and locker room. It was a tough call but have to give Marv and the front office some credit they are going to do it there way after years of mediocre football. I think there will be some decent vets on the waiver wire at LB they need some experience there.

Part of me was hoping they could have kept Takeo and Fletch but there are so many other needs and with the $$ they were going to paid, plus like you said Takeo's injury hard to pay someone that much with a hope he will get back to pro-bowl form. I am kind of excited with all the new players - will be interesting to see how they gel together and who become the new stars.

[HHURRICANE]

I love the reply, but no rebuttal...

You and I are usually on the same page but the Bills are officially done in the "Big Deal" department. Get ready for 5 weeks of Lynch vs. Willis vs. Hall threads.

[dolphan117]

Now that was funny, nicely done Thrum.

[RockStar36]

Fair enough. I'm still waiting to hear who we have that's equal or better.

I'll let you know after the draft.

I need to see the full roster/depth chart to make that decision.

[ublinkwescore]

You and I are usually on the same page but the Bills are officially done in the "Big Deal" department. Get ready for 5 weeks of Lynch vs. Willis vs. Hall threads.

I seriously doubt that - there's just too big a hole at LB now, and it would be dumb to not grab one more guy at LB before the draft - and if it doesn't happen before the draft, look for us to get rid of one of our thirds for a LB/WR/RB/run stuffing DT.

[Philagape]

FYI, this trade in no way counters the cheapness claim ... Walker doesn't even make as much as Holcomb, which I bet is why we threw him in. This trade saves cash.

[ublinkwescore]

FYI, this trade in no way counters the cheapness claim ... Walker doesn't even make as much as Holcomb, which I bet is why we threw him in. This trade saves cash.

:rofl:

[TigerJ]

Buffalo is clearly going after a starting linebacker in the draft, and will probably draft a second linebacker for depth. It's a great draft for Tampa cover 2 style linebackers. Marv sees this.

[jamze132]

Feel free to jump on my "Get Lance Briggs" bandwagon anytime!!
I am riding shotgun on this bandwagon!

[patmoran2006]

Pat has been awfully quiet tonight.
Pat's been having sexual relations all night long, like the genetic jackhammer that he is
http://depts.washington.edu/envhlth/info/biennial_report/image/2jackhammer.jpg


My comments, which Im certain Hammer you havent been able to sleep while waiting for. Are to follow shortly.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Pat's been having sexual relations all night long, like the genetic jackhammer that he is
http://depts.washington.edu/envhlth/info/biennial_report/image/2jackhammer.jpg


My comments, which Im certain Hammer you havent been able to sleep while waiting for. Are to follow shortly.
We don't care.

[ublinkwescore]

Pat's been having sexual relations all night long, like the genetic jackhammer that he is
http://depts.washington.edu/envhlth/info/biennial_report/image/2jackhammer.jpg


My comments, which Im certain Hammer you havent been able to sleep while waiting for. Are to follow shortly.

translation, he's got his newest porno mag, and is spending some quality time with it.

[jpdex12]

I like the trade, but Ellison doesn't make me feel comfortable about our LB's. I'm interested to see what we do in the draft.

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What's there to feel uncomfortble about? Looks pretty good for a WLB with only 6 starts in his first year!

[patmoran2006]

Jesus.. Fletcher had 41 tackles more than our next guy, and led the defense in both interceptions and touchdowns..

and he WASN'T PRODUCTIVE?!?!?!??!


You guys are insane.

[jpdex12]

I'll say that Crowell has at least 120 tackles this year. Ellison around 85 if they both stay healthy and play 16 games.