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  • BuffaloRanger
    WORK HARD. PLAY HARD. LIVE HARD.
    • Mar 2003
    • 2246

    Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

    With all the talk about revenue sharing and small market teams I have to ask one question.

    How much money did the Bills lose last year?

    They haven't lost money in years.


    If the team is worth 750+ million and the team makes between 40-50 million dollars in profit a season, why is Ralph insisting on sticking to cash to cap this season? I know that big spending doesn't guarentee success (redskins) but why disadvantage yourself?

    Yep, someone will surely try to explain to me about the long term viability of the team I'm sure. But isn't that truely the worry of the next owner?

    Ralph is not going to live forever. He can't take the money with him. We are all concerned about the status of the team when he is gone. Why not go for it now?

    The financial viability of a small market team is not going to convince a new potential owner to keep the team in Buffalo if he desires to move it.

    I just don't understand the strict adhearence to fiscal prudence for a team with an 87 year old owner. Does he really want to a Super Bowl?
    Buffalo Only and Always.
  • The Answer
    The Plagiarist
    • Mar 2007
    • 2633

    #2
    Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

    Originally posted by BuffaloRanger
    With all the talk about revenue sharing and small market teams I have to ask one question.

    How much money did the Bills lose last year?

    They haven't lost money in years.


    If the team is worth 750+ million and the team makes between 40-50 million dollars in profit a season, why is Ralph insisting on sticking to cash to cap this season? I know that big spending doesn't guarentee success (redskins) but why disadvantage yourself?

    Yep, someone will surely try to explain to me about the long term viability of the team I'm sure. But isn't that truely the worry of the next owner?

    Ralph is not going to live forever. He can't take the money with him. We are all concerned about the status of the team when he is gone. Why not go for it now?

    The financial viability of a small market team is not going to convince a new potential owner to keep the team in Buffalo if he desires to move it.

    I just don't understand the strict adhearence to fiscal prudence for a team with an 87 year old owner. Does he really want to a Super Bowl?
    RW has no desire to win a championship and is one of the worst owners in the league. All he does is whine and complain like the grizzled cheapskate he is - the sooner this team is purchased by a new owner the better.

    ~The Answer

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    • feelthepain
      All-Pro Zoner
      • Mar 2005
      • 4663

      #3
      Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

      I would say RW cares more about the money then he does about the success of the team. Oh he wants to win, but only if that can be at as little cost as possible. You can get away with that on the field as long as you spend the money on the coaches, but when you refuse to pay the coaching staff and the players, you have no chance to succeed. When MM quit the Bills and they added Dick Juron, it was clearly because he could be had cheap, sure Marv wanted him, but only because Marv couldn't spend the money to get a better coach. Coaches also don't want to coach for a chep owner...uless they are getting no interest form anyone else. I believe Juron fit this to a "T"!

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      • Bulldog
        Top Dog
        • Jan 2003
        • 2654

        #4
        Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

        Originally posted by feelthepain
        I would say RW cares more about the money then he does about the success of the team. Oh he wants to win, but only if that can be at as little cost as possible. You can get away with that on the field as long as you spend the money on the coaches, but when you refuse to pay the coaching staff and the players, you have no chance to succeed. When MM quit the Bills and they added Dick Juron, it was clearly because he could be had cheap, sure Marv wanted him, but only because Marv couldn't spend the money to get a better coach. Coaches also don't want to coach for a chep owner...uless they are getting no interest form anyone else. I believe Juron fit this to a "T"!
        How did that Saban hiring work out for Miami? How much money did they spend on him again? Levy hired Juron because he was familiar with him and felt comfortable working with him. I would assume that Levy actually sees a lot of himself in Juron. Similar style and demeanor. Sometimes it's not all about money, it's about finding the right guy for the job. As far as Juron goes, the jury is still out. As Miami found out, throwing money at the "hot" coaching prospect doesn't equal success. Hell, Lovie Smith was one of the lowest paid HC last year and all he did was take his team to the Super Bowl. Get a clue before you post please!
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        • Dr. Lecter
          Zero for Zero!
          • Mar 2003
          • 67938

          #5
          Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

          Originally posted by The Answer
          RW has no desire to win a championship and is one of the worst owners in the league. All he does is whine and complain like the grizzled cheapskate he is - the sooner this team is purchased by a new owner the better.

          ~The Answer
          How times do we have to prove that he is not cheap?????

          That comment is so moronic, it is laughable.

          And to say he does not want to win a championship is even a greater level of moroncy (I invented a new word!)

          ~Dr.Lecter
          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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          • RockStar36
            Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
            • Sep 2004
            • 24761

            #6
            Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            How times do we have to prove that he is not cheap?????

            That comment is so moronic, it is laughable.

            And to say he does not want to win a championship is even a greater level of moroncy (I invented a new word!)

            ~Dr.Lecter
            People easily confuse being cheap with over-spending. Those same people ignore the Washington Redskins.

            And Lecter...please don't start signing every post like it does. That is horribly annoying.

            D & S Sports



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            • The Answer
              The Plagiarist
              • Mar 2007
              • 2633

              #7
              Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              How times do we have to prove that he is not cheap?????

              That comment is so moronic, it is laughable.

              And to say he does not want to win a championship is even a greater level of moroncy (I invented a new word!)

              ~Dr.Lecter
              He broke the bank for one player (Dockery) - that doesn't erase all the other frugal moves in recent years.

              This team is committed to losing - whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

              ~The Answer

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              • gr8slayer
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 20796

                #8
                Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                Originally posted by feelthepain
                I would say RW cares more about the money then he does about the success of the team. Oh he wants to win, but only if that can be at as little cost as possible. You can get away with that on the field as long as you spend the money on the coaches, but when you refuse to pay the coaching staff and the players, you have no chance to succeed. When MM quit the Bills and they added Dick Juron, it was clearly because he could be had cheap, sure Marv wanted him, but only because Marv couldn't spend the money to get a better coach. Coaches also don't want to coach for a chep owner...uless they are getting no interest form anyone else. I believe Juron fit this to a "T"!
                Jauron that beat you twice this year?

                BTW, Ralph spent more on FA than the Dolphins did this year.

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                • RockStar36
                  Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 24761

                  #9
                  Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                  Originally posted by The Answer
                  He broke the bank for one player (Dockery) - that doesn't erase all the other frugal moves in recent years.

                  This team is committed to losing - whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

                  ~The Answer
                  Then go root for someone else.

                  D & S Sports



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                  • The Answer
                    The Plagiarist
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2633

                    #10
                    Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                    Originally posted by RockStar36
                    People easily confuse being cheap with over-spending. Those same people ignore the Washington Redskins.

                    And Lecter...please don't start signing every post like it does. That is horribly annoying.
                    The Answer knows the difference and don't expect us to throw millions of dollars at mediorce players like the Redskins do year after year.

                    What The Answer expects is an owner that realizes it's the 21st century and we aren't the AFL anymore. At some point the frugal ways need to cease - we need an aggressive owner committed to bringing a world title to Buffalo.

                    ~The Answer

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                    • Stewie
                      Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11567

                      #11
                      Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                      Originally posted by BuffaloRanger
                      With all the talk about revenue sharing and small market teams I have to ask one question.

                      How much money did the Bills lose last year?

                      They haven't lost money in years.


                      If the team is worth 750+ million and the team makes between 40-50 million dollars in profit a season, why is Ralph insisting on sticking to cash to cap this season? I know that big spending doesn't guarentee success (redskins) but why disadvantage yourself?

                      Yep, someone will surely try to explain to me about the long term viability of the team I'm sure. But isn't that truely the worry of the next owner?

                      Ralph is not going to live forever. He can't take the money with him. We are all concerned about the status of the team when he is gone. Why not go for it now?

                      The financial viability of a small market team is not going to convince a new potential owner to keep the team in Buffalo if he desires to move it.

                      I just don't understand the strict adhearence to fiscal prudence for a team with an 87 year old owner. Does he really want to a Super Bowl?
                      I'll give you an example why.

                      Maybe his girls want the team, and will be required to pay a lot of money in taxes to get it.

                      Maybe, just maybe, Ralph is figuring out the best way to get the cash to them so they can pay the tax. Thats where the 40-50 million a year is going.

                      Maybe he is covering is bases, because the worst thing that could happen is to give the team and cash to the kids, have the kids spend a lot of it on taxes and the team, and then have the team go "under" because it can't compete in Buffalo (ie: bought out at a significant discount to it's value, and moved.)

                      So I will give Ralph the benefit of the doubt, that he has a plan in place to do what's best for his kids, the team and the city of buffalo.
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                      • The Answer
                        The Plagiarist
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2633

                        #12
                        Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                        Originally posted by RockStar36
                        Then go root for someone else.
                        Nope - The Answer is committed to this team. And The Answer demands division titles and playoff wins. Something your current owner could care less about.

                        ~The Answer

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                        • Dr. Lecter
                          Zero for Zero!
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 67938

                          #13
                          Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                          Originally posted by The Answer
                          Nope - The Answer is committed to this team. And The Answer demands division titles and playoff wins. Something your current owner could care less about.

                          ~The Answer
                          Right. Ralph does not want to win.
                          Originally posted by mysticsoto
                          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                          • M
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1947

                            #14
                            Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                            Of course Ralph doesn't want to win a SB. He's only in it for the tailgating.
                            Last edited by M; 03-27-2007, 12:52 PM.
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                            • THATHURMANATOR
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 69112

                              #15
                              Re: Does Ralph really want to win a SB before he dies?

                              Why wouldn't he want to win a superbowl? This thread is MENTAL.

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