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  • jpdex12
    Registered User
    • Jan 2005
    • 2670

    Don't let team win loss records fool you!

    Can you believe that the Bears had the easiest schedules last year and they still went to the superbowl? Do you think that Buffalo is as bad as some of you think they are with the hardest schedule last year? We only got blown out by the Bears.

    2007 Draft Order
    PickTeamRecordStrength of schedule
    1. Oakland 2-14 .555
    2. Detroit 3-13 .479
    3. Cleveland 4-12 .535
    4. Tampa Bay 4-12 .535
    5. Arizona 5-11 .500
    6. Washington 5-11 .512
    7. Minnesota 6-10 .539
    8. Houston 6-10 .500
    9. Miami 6-10 .504
    10. Atlanta 7-9 .457
    11. San Francisco 7-9 .500
    12. Buffalo 7-9 .574
    13. St. Louis 8-8 .465
    14. Carolina 8-8 .473
    15. Pittsburgh 8-8 .496
    16. Green Bay 8-8 .500
    17. Jacksonville 8-8 .531
    18. Cincinnati 8-8 .535
    19. Tennessee 8-8 .570
    20. N.Y. Giants 8-8 .520
    21. Denver 9-7 .531
    22. Dallas 9-7 .457
    23. Kansas City 9-7 .492
    24. New England (from Seattle) 9-7 .453
    25. N.Y. Jets 10-6 .469
    26. Philadelphia 10-6 .449
    27. New Orleans 10-6 .461
    28. New England 12-4 .496
    29. Baltimore 13-3 .461
    30. San Diego 14-2 .457
    31. Chicago 13-3 .430
    32. Indianapolis 12-4 .500
    Where else would you rather be than right here right now?
  • gr8slayer
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 20796

    #2
    Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

    Well we were a couple plays away from beating the Pats (week one), Chargers, and the Colts.

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    • Kenny
      Registered User
      • Aug 2004
      • 2728

      #3
      Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

      Just to play devils advocate, -Im not sure SOS should mean that much.

      To the 2 extremes: if you're a powerhouse team and winning alot, you'll affect alot of the teams you beat (meaning your SOS will go down, and theirs will go up).
      Likewise, if you're a really crappy team (ie Oakland), you bump up your SOS everytime you lose and lower everyone elses SOS.

      Take into account you only play a small number of games a year (16), and SOS doesnt look like a very meaningful stat.

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      • jpdex12
        Registered User
        • Jan 2005
        • 2670

        #4
        Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

        Originally posted by Kenny
        Just to play devils advocate, -Im not sure SOS should mean that much.

        To the 2 extremes: if you're a powerhouse team and winning alot, you'll affect alot of the teams you beat (meaning your SOS will go down, and theirs will go up).
        Likewise, if you're a really crappy team (ie Oakland), you bump up your SOS everytime you lose and lower everyone elses SOS.

        Take into account you only play a small number of games a year (16), and SOS doesnt look like a very meaningful stat.
        Man Kenny, you really bring a twist to this! As Gr8slayer said, a couple of plays and we go from 7-9 to 10-6 and that is a couple of plays against some really good teams. We will be better next year!
        Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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        • Kenny
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 2728

          #5
          Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

          Originally posted by jpdex12
          Man Kenny, you really bring a twist to this! As Gr8slayer said, a couple of plays and we go from 7-9 to 10-6 and that is a couple of plays against some really good teams. We will be better next year!
          Well, SOS works in college because there are 'true' powerhouses there, and for the most part, not much parity.

          But as Gr8slayer mentioned, alot of the games are close (I'd imagine that we're not the only team to win or lose by close games too).
          And even the year before last, where we finished 5-11 (or was it 6-10??)... there at least 3 games I can remember that could of went other ways (the ATL, CAR, and INdy games at home).

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71580

            #6
            Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

            this is precisely why I am little bit optimistic about the staff we have. Granted they didn't light the league on fire, they kept us close inspite of the strength of schedule and the qb, rb, injury issues they inherited. Not bad for a bad first year for rebuilding team.I also love how our coaches keep saying, "there's a lot of work to be done" unlike TD "we expect playoffs"
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            • Mr. Pink
              Peterman Sucks!
              • Mar 2006
              • 35303

              #7
              Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

              They finished about where they should have...lost some tough ones that coulda gone either way and won some tough ones that coulda gone either way. It all averages out.

              To say this could have been a 4-12 team is as logical as saying it could have been 10-6. One dropped pass by Minnesota was the difference in that win. A nice last second TD pass from Losman to Price beat the Texans and we beat the Jags on a last second field goal.

              Like I said everything averages out in the end over a course of a 16 game schedule and we were a team that wasn't good enough to get over the hump without almost all the breaks going our way. Which showed in the final standings.

              All in all it was a good year in a step towards better things. Hopefully we can build on the last season and make strides further towards being competitive.

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              • patmoran2006
                Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                • Dec 2005
                • 19840

                #8
                Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

                Originally posted by jpdex12
                Man Kenny, you really bring a twist to this! As Gr8slayer said, a couple of plays and we go from 7-9 to 10-6 and that is a couple of plays against some really good teams. We will be better next year!
                And if the guy from the Vikings (cant remember his name) doesnt drop a ball wide open for a TD, Price doesnt come down with that catch vs Houston in the final few seconds and Parrish doesnt make a great play late vs the Jags..

                Then we're 4-12 last year; 5-7 at best.

                Basically, we finished how we deserved last year. WE played some real good teams tough ( Indy, SD)-- we failed to even show up a couple of games (chicago, Detroit, NE#2) and we flat out gave away a couple of games (NE#1 and the NYJ #1)-- Finally we beat most of the teams we're supposed to beat (Houston, Miami twice)


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                • BillsFever21
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 9067

                  #9
                  Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

                  Had we won more games then our SOS would've been lower. Everytime you lose it increases your opponents SOS because their record increases.

                  Take NE for example. Had we beat them twice instead of losing both games it would've given us 9 wins and knocked the Patriots down to 9 wins. The Patriots winning percentage would've been lower thus lowering our SOS.

                  And when you're talking about a few percentage points what difference does that make. You played one more team that had 6 wins instead of 4? Big deal.

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                  • BillsFever21
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 9067

                    #10
                    Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

                    Originally posted by patmoran2006
                    And if the guy from the Vikings (cant remember his name) doesnt drop a ball wide open for a TD, Price doesnt come down with that catch vs Houston in the final few seconds and Parrish doesnt make a great play late vs the Jags..

                    Then we're 4-12 last year; 5-7 at best.

                    Basically, we finished how we deserved last year. WE played some real good teams tough ( Indy, SD)-- we failed to even show up a couple of games (chicago, Detroit, NE#2) and we flat out gave away a couple of games (NE#1 and the NYJ #1)-- Finally we beat most of the teams we're supposed to beat (Houston, Miami twice)
                    Some people act like we're the only team in the NFL who played close games. Every losing team in the NFL can look back to multiple close games they could've won.

                    You are what your record is. Just like Pat mentioned, a few close games we were lucky to pull out could've made us 4-12 had we lost them. You can't win every lose game. Good teams don't put themselves in that position and lose them types of games many times a season.

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                    • YardRat
                      Well, lookie here...
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86210

                      #11
                      Re: Don't let team win loss records fool you!

                      Originally posted by gr8slayer
                      Well we were a couple years away from beating the Pats (week one), Chargers, and the Colts.
                      Fixed it.
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