I want to know what fan at 6:34PM finally challenged the media...

[HHURRICANE]

On Sirrius tonight one of our fans intelligently made the argument after A-train was dismissed as a "has-been" that getting 990 yards wouldn't be that challenging and I finally think the light bulb registered with Blitz crew!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gr8slayer]

Wish I had been listening to that.

[HHURRICANE]

Wish I had been listening to that.

There was a pause and even though there wasn't a direct response you knew what they were thinking. I was hoping he was a zoner!!

[DraftBoy]

What was said?

[Goobylal]

I've been saying that it's not like Willis averaged well over 4.0 YPC, caught the ball like a WR, blocked like a lineman, or was a TD scoring machine. Good job to whoever called in and told it like it was.

[Mr. Pink]

And the sad part....A-train was worse and we're still all celebrating that Willis is gone and there is no viable replacement.

I agree Willis going was the right thing for the organization. What I don't agree with is we have NO replacement for him. The only plan/recourse we have right now is hoping a Peterson or Lynch is available when we pick. That's not a good strategy to hope that things fall that way.

I'm still hopeful that the A-train and his 3.1 YPC over the past 4 seasons is NOT our starting HB come September.

[eyedog]

A-train will not be the strating rb come Sept.

[gr8slayer]

A-train will not be the strating rb come Sept.
It wont matter because we will be using a two back system. Much like our starting DT's don't matter.

[eyedog]

It wont matter because we will be using a two back system. Much like our starting DT's don't matter.

So they say, but if they take a back at #12 you can guarantee that guy will get the majority of the carries.

[gr8slayer]

So they say, but if they take a back at #12 you can guarantee that guy will get the majority of the carries.
Says who?

[eyedog]

You don't take Lynch at 12 and give him 10-12 carries a game and a-train the other half.

[gr8slayer]

You don't take Lynch at 12 and give him 10-12 carries a game and a-train the other half.
I didn't know such rules existed.

[eyedog]

It's the rule called, "you don't dump millions into an early draft pick and not use him "

[gr8slayer]

It's the rule called, "you don't dump millions into an early draft pick and not use him "
Julius Jones was an early draft pick and he rarely gets more than 15 - 17.

Jones - Drew was drafted early and he gets even fewer.

Addai was drafted in the first round and he rarely breaks 15.

Cedric Benson was drafted earlier than all of them and rarely gets any.

Maroney was an early pick and got less than Jones.


Again, where are these rules of yours. Marv's rules are "what ever it takes to win"

[eyedog]

Any of those guys top-12 ? Benson but he was hurt and will get the load this year.

[Philagape]

Reggie Bush averaged less than 10 carries a game

[gr8slayer]

Any of those guys top-12 ? Benson but he was hurt and will get the load this year.
You said early draft picks, all of them are first and second rounders. All make millions.

[gr8slayer]

Reggie Bush averaged less than 10 carries a game
How could I leave him out.

Lendale White didn't get crap either, he was a second rounder.

[eyedog]

whatever it takes to win, i'll take a lynch or peterson carrying the ball over a-train. but thats me.

[gr8slayer]

whatever it takes to win, i'll take a lynch or peterson carrying the ball over a-train. but thats me.
I'll take them splitting carries over one or the other.

[eyedog]

2nd rder doesn't make close to a top half first rder. Bush, he caught a few passes didn't he ?

[eyedog]

Hate to break it to you but a-train is a marginal NFL back.

[gr8slayer]

2nd rder doesn't make close to a top half first rder. Bush, he caught a few passes didn't he ?
:rolleyes: You're blind.

[gr8slayer]

Hate to break it to you but a-train is a marginal NFL back.
Hate to break it to you but Lynch/Peterson have never played a down in the NFL.

[eyedog]

No, I saw Bush being used plenty.

[eyedog]

Hate to break it to you but Lynch/Peterson have never played a down in the NFL.

Ah I see. So you would rather have A-train over either one of those two then. good logic.

[gr8slayer]

Ah I see. So you would rather have A-train over either one of those two then. good logic.
I would rather both of those guys split carries with Thomas. Not that dual back systems work or anything.

The Giants didn't go to the play-offs.

The Cowboys didn't go to the play-offs.

The Bears didn't go to the SB.

The Colts didn't win the SB.

The Broncos were horrible.

The Patriots were just pathetic.

The Saints didn't do a thing this year. They didn't save their franchise with a winning season.

The Jags were so stupid letting their rookie split carries with Taylor.

And the Jets? Like they will ever get out of the depths of the AFCE.

Your right, the two back system doesn't work.

[eyedog]

It works IF you have two legit runners. Sorry but a-train is nothing but a marginal NFL backup who couldn't even play in the league two years ago.

[gr8slayer]

It works IF you have two legit runners. Sorry but a-train is nothing but a marginal NFL backup who couldn't even play in the league two years ago.
He looked alot better than Willis did.

[eyedog]

He looked alot better than Willis did.

Lets not get carried away. A-train plays hard and can pick up a blitz but as much as everyone hates on willis, willis is a better back.

[gr8slayer]

Lets not get carried away. A-train plays hard and can pick up a blitz but as much as everyone hates on willis, willis is a better back.
Maybe potential wise but you know what potential means? It means you still haven't done anything yet and McGahee has done nothing yet.

Thomas first three years: 2928, TD's 20

McGahee first three years: 3365, TD's 24

That is with Thomas missing a total of 12 games in three years and McGahee missing a total of two games in three seasons.

Those totals are not that different at all. McGahee had a bad attitude and whether or not he is the better athlete he didn't feel like playing. Give me Thomas.

[gr8slayer]

McGahee also had 868 carries

Thomas only had 736

McGahee averaged four yards a carry once.

Thomas twice.

[eyedog]

you got him.

[Mr. Pink]

And A-Train averaged 3.5 ypc last year....Willis 3.8

Don't even attempt to say that a-train is a better RB than Willis.

As much as Willis is a blabbering idiot who only shows up when he wants he's 5x the running back A-train is at this point in their careers.

[gr8slayer]

And A-Train averaged 3.5 ypc last year....Willis 3.8

Don't even attempt to say that a-train is a better RB than Willis.

As much as Willis is a blabbering idiot who only shows up when he wants he's 5x the running back A-train is at this point in their careers.
I don't want a guy who is selfish and self-serving, I don't want a guy who doesn't want to be here and bashes the city every chance he gets. I want a guy who will do anything it takes to win. I want a guy who won't turn his back on me in the forth quarter when were down by 14. I'll take A-Train and an RB to split carries over McGahee any day.

[camelcowboy]

And A-Train averaged 3.5 ypc last year....Willis 3.8

Don't even attempt to say that a-train is a better RB than Willis.

As much as Willis is a blabbering idiot who only shows up when he wants he's 5x the running back A-train is at this point in their careers.

At this point in they're careers Willis is pretty much .3 better the running back then Thomas. The fact the numbers are even this close is shameful for McGahee.

[gr8slayer]

The fact that McGahee just got a $40 million dollar contract is shameful.

[Night Train]

I understand the Bills stating the splitting carries theory. Still, Slow-Train was basically out of football when the Bills signed him last year. I don't think he could break 5.0 in the 40, despite his effort and heart. Who went after him in FA this year ? Nobody.

If the Bills drafted a Lynch, Slow-Train would give him a rest every once in a while and little more. I'd be furious to see a top RB standing on the sidelines while Slow-Train played. He's a backup, in case of injury. Not a front line guy.

[HHURRICANE]

Willis was an average to above average back. PERIOD.

However, he leaves a legitimate hole that A-train is not going to fill.

Those who think a dual system RB tandem is the way to go aren't thinking clearly. The Colts didn't have a choice along with alot of the other teams that are FORCED to go this way.

I'm sure the Colts would have had no problem with just Tiki Barber in the backfield.