The business side of the Turner talk

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  • Mr. Miyagi
    Lecter's Little *****

    • Sep 2002
    • 53616

    The business side of the Turner talk

    Everyone is talking about how good he is, and how San Diego has all the leverage in the world asking for the sky for him.

    Don't forget, Turner is an FA next season. If they don't trade him now while his value is the highest, they will lose him for nothing next year. If Turner truly was in their long term plans, they would've locked him up in a long term re-up deal already.

    All the other talk about him being great insurance is posturing. They only have Turner for this year only, and they're not making a SuperBowl run this very year with no receiver and a new coaching staff. And they know it.

    Regardless of how good this guy is, they need to move him before the draft this offseason, or the suitor pool will dry up. And next season's draft is RB rich, and Turner's value will drop significantly. Don't let them fool you into thinking they hold all the cards. Because they don't.
  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71601

    #2
    Re: The business side of the Turner talk

    this is why I don't have a problem w/ Ralph sitting on it. I'm also sure that Aj Smith and Marv realize rb's are a dime a dozen and there's also next years rb draft class
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    • Bulldog
      Top Dog
      • Jan 2003
      • 2654

      #3
      Re: The business side of the Turner talk

      Good post. But I still think SD has enough talent to make a SB run this year. It's not like their WR's we any great shakes last year either. And yet they still posted a 14-2 record and very well could have beat the Pats in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Plus, Rivers should progress being that it's his 2nd year starting.
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      • Mr. Miyagi
        Lecter's Little *****

        • Sep 2002
        • 53616

        #4
        Re: The business side of the Turner talk

        You honestly think Michael Turner alone is the key to their SuperBowl run? Without him they don't have a chance? Come on.

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        • Bulldog
          Top Dog
          • Jan 2003
          • 2654

          #5
          Re: The business side of the Turner talk

          Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
          You honestly think Michael Turner alone is the key to their SuperBowl run? Without him they don't have a chance? Come on.
          Not what I said at all. What I said was in response to you saying that SD won't make a SB run this year. I think SD can make a SB run with or without Turner. I don't know how you took that to mean that SD can't make a run without Turner.
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          • Mr. Miyagi
            Lecter's Little *****

            • Sep 2002
            • 53616

            #6
            Re: The business side of the Turner talk

            I'm just saying SuperBowl run or not, it's not a factor in their needing to trade Turner now. It's completely irrelevant. That's all.

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            • Bulldog
              Top Dog
              • Jan 2003
              • 2654

              #7
              Re: The business side of the Turner talk

              Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
              I'm just saying SuperBowl run or not, it's not a factor in their needing to trade Turner now. It's completely irrelevant. That's all.
              I feel it is a factor. If SD feels they are primed to make a run at the SB, it wouldn't hurt to have a back like Turner in case something happens to LT. If SD does trade Turner, and LT goes down with an injury, they are screwed. I know that Turner is no LT, but I honestly think he could carry the load for that team if need be.
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              • mysticsoto
                Too sober for this...
                • Apr 2004
                • 31439

                #8
                Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                Originally posted by Bulldog
                Not what I said at all. What I said was in response to you saying that SD won't make a SB run this year. I think SD can make a SB run with or without Turner. I don't know how you took that to mean that SD can't make a run without Turner.
                One thing with SD is that they'll have alot of coaching changes to deal with. If they can adapt fast to the new coaches, then they could do a SB run. Otherwise, it might be better for them to trade Turner to get extra draft picks on prospects that might help them remain in contention down the road for years to come.

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                • Bulldog
                  Top Dog
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2654

                  #9
                  Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  One thing with SD is that they'll have alot of coaching changes to deal with. If they can adapt fast to the new coaches, then they could do a SB run. Otherwise, it might be better for them to trade Turner to get extra draft picks on prospects that might help them remain in contention down the road for years to come.
                  I don't think their systems will change that much. Hell, Norv Turner installed their offense while he was the OC for them. And didn't the DC come from within the organization? I see SD being like Tampa when Gruden took over and won the SB his first year after the Bucs fired Dungy. Now weather or not Norv is as good a coach as Grunden is, thats a whole different debate.
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                  • Mr. Miyagi
                    Lecter's Little *****

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 53616

                    #10
                    Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                    Originally posted by Bulldog
                    I feel it is a factor. If SD feels they are primed to make a run at the SB, it wouldn't hurt to have a back like Turner in case something happens to LT. If SD does trade Turner, and LT goes down with an injury, they are screwed. I know that Turner is no LT, but I honestly think he could carry the load for that team if need be.
                    That's what it boils down to. Since they only have Turner for this year only, this is the year they feel they can make a SB run, as a one shot deal. They're willing to put all their eggs in this year's basket, even though it means losing out draft picks for players that can help the team longer than one year.

                    In other words, it's Turner or bust. That's what you're saying.

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                    • Bulldog
                      Top Dog
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2654

                      #11
                      Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                      Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                      That's what it boils down to. Since they only have Turner for this year only, this is the year they feel they can make a SB run, as a one shot deal. They're willing to put all their eggs in this year's basket, even though it means losing out draft picks for players that can help the team longer than one year.

                      In other words, it's Turner or bust. That's what you're saying.
                      I'm saying that if the Chargers and AJ Smith feel that they can make a legitimate run at the SB this year, that maybe they hang on to Turner to provide an insurance policy in case LT goes down. I'm pretty confident that the Chargers would have a better chance of success with Turner than they would with another FA or a rookie draft pick.
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                      • Mr. Miyagi
                        Lecter's Little *****

                        • Sep 2002
                        • 53616

                        #12
                        Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                        A 2nd+ round pick is a very expensive insurance policy for just one year.

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                        • Bulldog
                          Top Dog
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2654

                          #13
                          Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                          Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                          A 2nd+ round pick is a very expensive insurance policy for just one year.
                          I agree. I would almost compare it to what the Sabres did this year with Biron. Buffalo could have kept him this year in case Miller went down or struggled in the playoffs and lost him next year for nothing. Or, they could have traded him, which they did, and hope like hell Miller stays healthy and plays well. It also allowed them to address other areas of their team that needed help. It's all a roll of the dice.
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                          • Mr. Miyagi
                            Lecter's Little *****

                            • Sep 2002
                            • 53616

                            #14
                            Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                            That makes the most business sense, least risk and most reward. And that's what I expect SD will do.

                            So if some dork in Wisconsin knows this, surely NFL teams brass know this. And that's why I say SD does not have all the leverage.

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                            • Saratoga Slim
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4154

                              #15
                              Re: The business side of the Turner talk

                              Originally posted by Bulldog
                              I agree. I would almost compare it to what the Sabres did this year with Biron. Buffalo could have kept him this year in case Miller went down or struggled in the playoffs and lost him next year for nothing. Or, they could have traded him, which they did, and hope like hell Miller stays healthy and plays well. It also allowed them to address other areas of their team that needed help. It's all a roll of the dice.
                              Good analogy.
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