Kiper has Willis going to Seattle at pick 24

[THATHURMANATOR]

For what that is worth......

[THATHURMANATOR]

He also was the 3rd linebacker off the board.

[Dr. Lecter]

Who does he have the Bills taking?

[BigGabes23]

does anyone have the whole Kiper first round Mock?

[Jan Reimers]

Who does he have the Bills taking?
Okoye, last I saw.

[OpIv37]

first, Kiper's on crack.

Second, if he's actually right, imagine this: we swap picks with SD for Turner. Willis is still on the board at 24. We trade the 30 and a 3rd round to Seattle and end up with Turner and Willis.....

It'll never happen but one can always dream....

[ddaryl]

If Willis last till the 24 pick then in a perfect world we could trade back get extra picks and still land Willis.

I doubt Willis lasts past the #12 spot and Kiper has his head up his ass more often then not. I think last year his mock was off quite a bit, way too much for a quitessential mock drafter

[Dr. Lecter]

first, Kiper's on crack.

Second, if he's actually right, imagine this: we swap picks with SD for Turner. Willis is still on the board at 24. We trade the 30 and a 3rd round to SD and end up with Turner and Willis.....

It'll never happen but one can always dream....

That would be pretty cool. And a pick in the early 2nd for Houston maybe?

WR in the 3rd.

Great first day.

Even you and Pat would be happy.

[The Answer]

For what that is worth......

This is no real surprise to The Answer - a lot of scouts, including The Answer, have Willis rated as a mid to late round pick to begin with - despite his stellar pro day.

Also a lot of people are comparing Willis to AJ Hawk because he has similar tendencies and tends to be overaggresive at times costing the defense in the process.

Regardless he's still an outstanding prospect and The Answer wouldn't mind him wearing a Bills uniform one bit.

~The Answer

[ddaryl]

first, Kiper's on crack.

Second, if he's actually right, imagine this: we swap picks with SD for Turner. Willis is still on the board at 24. We trade the 30 and a 3rd round to SD and end up with Turner and Willis.....

It'll never happen but one can always dream....


I think you mean we swap 1sts with SD, then use the #30 pick from SD and one of our 3rds to trade/move up and pick Willis ahead of Seattle at 24.

I owuld be down with that perfect scenario

[OpIv37]

I think you mean we swap 1sts with SD, then use the #30 pick from SD and one of our 3rds to trade/move up and pick Willis ahead of Seattle at 24.

I owuld be down with that perfect scenario

right- that's what I meant- fixed.

[justasportsfan]

first, Kiper's on crack.


careful. Lat year we thought Mayock was on crack. One of these days, Kiper may get it right.

[camelcowboy]

I love watching Kipers best available players to start the draft, last until round 5.

[Devin]

This is no real surprise to The Answer - a lot of scouts, including The Answer, have Willis rated as a mid to late round pick to begin with - despite his stellar pro day.

Also a lot of people are comparing Willis to AJ Hawk because he has similar tendencies and tends to be overaggresive at times costing the defense in the process.

Regardless he's still an outstanding prospect and The Answer wouldn't mind him wearing a Bills uniform one bit.

~The Answer


Nice assesment, copy and paste that from another site?

[Mr. Miyagi]

first, Kiper's on crack.

Second, if he's actually right, imagine this: we swap picks with SD for Turner. Willis is still on the board at 24. We trade the 30 and a 3rd round to Seattle and end up with Turner and Willis.....

It'll never happen but one can always dream....
Or if we give them straight up 2nd and 4th for Turner we can still have both.

[THATHURMANATOR]

first, Kiper's on crack.

Second, if he's actually right, imagine this: we swap picks with SD for Turner. Willis is still on the board at 24. We trade the 30 and a 3rd round to Seattle and end up with Turner and Willis.....

It'll never happen but one can always dream....
Hey just saying man.

[The Answer]

Nice assesment, copy and paste that from another site?

Once again, many professional scouts and The Answer share the same opinion.

AJ Hawk was highly touted last year - but still a bit raw and needs much fine tuning. Willis is very similar and tends to be a bit aggressive at times and it gets him into trouble.

~The Answer

[OpIv37]

Hey just saying man.

and I'm just overanalyzing. I spent a lot of time and money in college learning how to do it so I figured I should apply it every once in a while.

[Devin]

Once again, many professional scouts and The Answer share the same opinion.

AJ Hawk was highly touted last year - but still a bit raw and needs much fine tuning. Willis is very similar and tends to be a bit aggressive at times and it gets him into trouble.

~The Answer

LOL does the answer copy all his material from other sites? :rolleyes:

[THATHURMANATOR]

and I'm just overanalyzing. I spent a lot of time and money in college learning how to do it so I figured I should apply it every once in a while.
Oh ok carry on then!!!

[Ickybaluky]

AJ Hawk was highly touted last year

And Hawk proved that he could live up to the hype.

119 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 2 Int, 1 FF, 2 FR for a rookie LB? That is a heck of a year for any player, but a great year for a rookie. Hawk is on his way to being a hell of a player.

[patmoran2006]

I will make my own personal "I am Justa's *****" avatar if Patrick Willis is still on the board at #16. and I'll wear a "Justa is GOD" T shirt to the Bills home opener party.

[Devin]

And Hawk proved that he could live up to the hype.

119 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 2 Int, 1 FF, 2 FR for a rookie LB? That is a heck of a year for any player, but a great year for a rookie. Hawk is on his way to being a hell of a player.

Keep facts out of this debate.

[mayotm]

Kiper's most recent mock draft is from 3/13. A lot of things have happened in the league since then. Not that Kiper's (or any others) mock draft means a damn thing.

[The Answer]

Keep facts out of this debate.

The Answer never claimed that Hawk wasn't on his way to a good career - but trust The Answer on this - if he don't fine tune his game eventually he'll be exposed as a liablity in coverage.

~The Answer

[gr8slayer]

There is no way he makes it to Seattle.

[patmoran2006]

For starters.. NE has the 24th pick. Not Seattle

and if NE ends up with Wills im killing someone.

[Devin]

The Answer never claimed that Hawk wasn't on his way to a good career - but trust The Answer on this - if he don't fine tune his game eventually he'll be exposed as a liablity in coverage.

~The Answer

:roflmao:

whatever dude. Youve clearly established you know zip about the game.

[jamze132]

First of all, Mel Kiper is a tool who never participated in organized football at any level. I honestly don't know how the hell he got a job as a prospect analyst at ESPN, but I guess I just answered my own question.

Second, there is no frikin' way that Patrick Willis is on the board at #24.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Hey guys don't yell at me I was just sayin...

[gr8slayer]

For starters.. NE has the 24th pick. Not Seattle

and if NE ends up with Wills im killing someone.
Can I join you?

[Ickybaluky]

Hey guys don't yell at me I was just sayin...

STOP IT, THURM! HOW DARE YOU!!!

[billsburgh]

I will make my own personal "I am Justa's *****" avatar if Patrick Willis is still on the board at #16. and I'll wear a "Justa is GOD" T shirt to the Bills home opener party.
you dont have to worry about that because there is absolutely no way Willis lasts that long. Alot of people here are worried that he wont even make it to 12.

[Mr. Pink]

I'd honestly be shocked if Willis isn't drafted by the 49ers.

[Al13]

kiper jr. is one of the best draft gurus out there

[billsburgh]

kiper jr. is one of the best draft gurus out there
he's a legend in his own mind. Mike Mayock of NFL Network is much better.

[ShadowHawk7]

Why can't Mayock put another mock out there. He got 8 out of the 10 first selections right last year, including our shocker. He kicks the pants off of Kiper imo.