Dockery comments from Prisco

[MarvLevy]

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Rate the replacements: Ready to fill big holes?



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- T10110513 --><!-- Sesame Modified: 04/05/2007 18:50:37 --><!-- sversion: 6 $Updated: ekay$ -->Most NFL coaches and front-office personnel are bunkered this week in draft meetings, trying to rate players but, more important, trying to gauge how those players will help their teams.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=200 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=200>http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10110484.jpg </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR><TR><TD width=200>Replace Nate Clements? One of the league's best cover corners? Not easy, Bills. (Getty Images) </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>For the teams that lost key players in free-agency, the draft is even more critical because they have to fill important spots. Some of those voids will be filled with players already on the team's roster. Others will be filled through the draft.
To help you get a better idea of what some of those teams are dealing with heading into 2007, we look at how teams might fill the loss of some of the key free agents who moved this year.
We call it rating the replacements.



Buffalo Bills (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF)

Player who left: Cornerback Nate Clements (49ers)
Replacement player(s): Kiwaukee Thomas and Ashton Youboty.
The skinny: Losing Clements is a big blow to the Bills defense. He was an outstanding cover corner, and those are tough to replace. Thomas, a seventh-year player, won the job as the team's nickel back last season and played well. Coach Dick Jauron knows him from when he was his defensive coordinator with the Jaguars. Second-year player Youboty, the team's third-round pick last season, has more skills than Thomas, but he is raw and barely played in 2006. Still, if you use a high pick on a corner, it's usually a sign that the job is his.
Rate the replacement: Questionable at best. Losing Clements is a stinger. Youboty has to come through to make this move OK.

Washington Redskins (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/WAS)

Player who left: Guard Derrick Dockery (Bills)
Replacement player(s): Ross Tucker, Mike Pucillo, Jason Fabini, Todd Wade
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Rate the replacement: OK. They'll get by with whoever starts there. Hey, it's a guard, not a tackle
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[ddaryl]

It's Prisco.... say no more

[acehole]

Funny wasnt Mike Pucillo a Bills cast off ........listen that contract is back loaded for Dockery and we need to run the ball to ease JP lossmans game and to keep our allstar vaulted defense off the field and to run in december...it is that simple...clement will be interesting if the 49 million or whatever clement got will outwiegh the guy we put there....I say we will be fine if we get some more production from the DT's as it should be in this defense. Whether or not the guys we have step up or is it K Jenkins or a high draft pick I dont care....all the db's will sink or swim on the play of the DL's pressure.....




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Rate the replacements: Ready to fill big holes?

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By Pete Prisco (http://www.sportsline.com/columns/writers/prisco)
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Pete your opinion! (http://www.sportsline.com/columns/writers/prisco)

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- T10110513 --><!-- Sesame Modified: 04/05/2007 18:50:37 --><!-- sversion: 6 $Updated: ekay$ -->Most NFL coaches and front-office personnel are bunkered this week in draft meetings, trying to rate players but, more important, trying to gauge how those players will help their teams.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=200 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=200>http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10110484.jpg </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR><TR><TD width=200>Replace Nate Clements? One of the league's best cover corners? Not easy, Bills. (Getty Images) </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>For the teams that lost key players in free-agency, the draft is even more critical because they have to fill important spots. Some of those voids will be filled with players already on the team's roster. Others will be filled through the draft.
To help you get a better idea of what some of those teams are dealing with heading into 2007, we look at how teams might fill the loss of some of the key free agents who moved this year.
We call it rating the replacements.



Buffalo Bills (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF)

Player who left: Cornerback Nate Clements (49ers)
Replacement player(s): Kiwaukee Thomas and Ashton Youboty.
The skinny: Losing Clements is a big blow to the Bills defense. He was an outstanding cover corner, and those are tough to replace. Thomas, a seventh-year player, won the job as the team's nickel back last season and played well. Coach Dick Jauron knows him from when he was his defensive coordinator with the Jaguars. Second-year player Youboty, the team's third-round pick last season, has more skills than Thomas, but he is raw and barely played in 2006. Still, if you use a high pick on a corner, it's usually a sign that the job is his.
Rate the replacement: Questionable at best. Losing Clements is a stinger. Youboty has to come through to make this move OK.

Baltimore Ravens (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL)

Player who left: Linebacker Adalius Thomas (Patriots)
Replacement player: Jarret Johnson
The skinny: Thomas was a versatile player who could do so many things for Rex Ryan's defense. His loss will be felt. But he turns 30 this year, so signing him to a long-term deal was risky. The Ravens chose to re-sign Johnson, who is younger. At 6-3, 270 pounds, he has played outside linebacker and defensive end, much like Thomas. He led all Ravens backups in tackles last season.
Rate the replacement: Good. Johnson is an underrated player who will step in and play well. As likely the only new starter on defense, it will make for a smooth transition.

Atlanta Falcons (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/ATL)

Player that left: Defensive end Patrick Kerney (Seahawks)
Replacement player: Chauncey Davis
The skinny: Losing Kerney hurts. He is an effort player who can create problems off the edge. He missed time last season, which forced young players like Davis and Paul Carrington to get time at end. Davis has some speed, but he isn't in the same league with Kerney. He does play the run pretty well. The loss of Kerney will put even more pressure on John Abraham to stay healthy.
Rate the replacement: Not good. Look for the Falcons to do something in the draft at defensive end.

Washington Redskins (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/WAS)

Player who left: Guard Derrick Dockery (Bills)
Replacement player(s): Ross Tucker, Mike Pucillo, Jason Fabini, Todd Wade
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=200 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=200>http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/test/img10110499.jpg </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR><TR><TD width=200>Losing Derrick Dockery won't kill the 'Skins: Hey, he's a guard. (Getty Images) </TD><TD width=15></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The skinny: Dockery played well for the Redskins last season and seemed to be on the verge of being a Pro Bowl player. But he isn't worth what the Bills paid to get him. None of the four players trying to replace him are as good as Dockery, but one of them will be good enough to get by. Fabini and Wade are tackles who will try to make the move to guard. The favorite is probably Pucillo.
Rate the replacement: OK. They'll get by with whoever starts there. Hey, it's a guard, not a tackle

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[feelthepain]

Rate the replacement: OK. They'll get by with whoever starts there. Hey, it's a guard, not a tackle


This is the most important part of the post. Dockery is just a G, not exactly a tough position to fill. The Bills just spent way too much money on him and he's not going to play aswell in Buffalo simply because the talent around him isn't nearly as good as it was in Washington. It's been said over and over that Dockery was the least talented player on Washington Oline, if Dockery is a big improvement to the Bills Oline whats that tell you about the rest of the talent there? He sure doesn't have Clinton Portis running behind him in Buffalo.

[ShadowHawk7]

Lol. Pucillo. I thought that guy would be off serving Italian beef in some greasy deli by now.

[jimmifli]

if Dockery is a big improvement to the Bills Oline whats that tell you about the rest of the talent there?

It sucked so bad that this was a smart move by the Bills.

[streetkings01]

This is the most important part of the post. Dockery is just a G, not exactly a tough position to fill. The Bills just spent way too much money on him and he's not going to play aswell in Buffalo simply because the talent around him isn't nearly as good as it was in Washington. It's been said over and over that Dockery was the least talented player on Washington Oline, if Dockery is a big improvement to the Bills Oline whats that tell you about the rest of the talent there? He sure doesn't have Clinton Portis running behind him in Buffalo.Bennie Anderson was one of the best lineman on your oline....so please be quiet!

[Crisis]

Mike Pucillo?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[feelthepain]

Bennie Anderson was one of the best lineman on your oline....so please be quiet!

Sure he was.

[Devin]

WHo cares who was best the fins line sucked then it will suck this year. Only know they have a qb with a broken knee, potentially a QB whose like 50 and Cleo lemon.

Scary.

[YardRat]

We did overpay for Dockery. And SF overpaid for Clements, and Minnesota overpaid for Hutch.....

[Michael82]

We did overpay for Dockery. And SF overpaid for Clements, and Minnesota overpaid for Hutch.....

If you compare Hutch's deal now with Dockery and Steinbach....the Vikings got a steal!

[HHURRICANE]

One more time. Dockery was the best available Guard in FA. How much did we overpay by? When someone can realistically quantify the number based on the new CBA than I'll listen.

The only thing I see is that we got the best avaiable guard and filled a giant hole. Good job Bills.

[feelthepain]

One more time. Dockery was the best available Guard in FA. How much did we overpay by? When someone can realistically quantify the number based on the new CBA than I'll listen.

The only thing I see is that we got the best avaiable guard and filled a giant hole. Good job Bills.

Nobdy was twisting the Bills arm to sign him! They didn't have to pay that much for a guard, they could have improved the line ...especially through the draft at the Gaurd position and spent way less money and gotten a compareable talent. Bill fans seem to think every other position on the team will be upgraded through this years draft, why not Gaurd?? Dockery was not so good that you had to have him and overpay for him at that.

[Michael82]

One more time. Dockery was the best available Guard in FA. How much did we overpay by? When someone can realistically quantify the number based on the new CBA than I'll listen.

The only thing I see is that we got the best avaiable guard and filled a giant hole. Good job Bills.

Good post! Plus he's young too and will make Peters EVEN better. So basically, the blind side of JP is now protected! And we can pull a San Diego and run, run, run all over that left side.

[HHURRICANE]

Nobdy was twisting the Bills arm to sign him! They didn't have to pay that much for a guard, they could have improved the line ...especially through the draft at the Gaurd position and spent way less money and gotten a compareable talent. Bill fans seem to think every other position on the team will be upgraded through this years draft, why not Gaurd?? Dockery was not so good that you had to have him and overpay for him at that.

OLs are one of the toughest positions to transition to from college. Tell me which rookie guard in this years draft is going to play better than Dockery?

I'm sure you wouldn't be *****ing if the Dolphins had signed him.

[feelthepain]

OLs are one of the toughest positions to transition to from college. Tell me which rookie guard in this years draft is going to play better than Dockery?

I'm sure you wouldn't be *****ing if the Dolphins had signed him.


I wouldn't be dancing around acting like it was the greatest signing in the world either. Heck I'd rather have Joey Porter 10 times out of 10 times over Dockery and you don't see me talking about Joey Porter at all. Sure I was here talking about it when he signed, but that was a month ago. I realize Porter and Dockery play two different positions, but if we needed a G or an OLB like the Bills do and my choices were Porter or Dockery that's a no brainer I'll take the player that will be the bigger impact by far and that's Porter.

You also seem to think Dockery is going to make this huge impact to your line, you weren't just a G away from being a playoff Oline. You weren't just a G away from being a good line. You still have no RB and just because you draft one doesn't mean he'll be a success either. According to Bill fans, Willis wasn't! OG is one of the eaisest transition to make out of College because they have such little resposibility, they don't have to call any plays like a C or face the best D player on a Defense week in and week out like a LT. Guards are important as any position, but they aren't the key ingredient on an Oline. Kris Dielman came into SD as a Rookie and has been their ever sense, he just one example of which there are many.

[Pinkerton Security]

I wouldn't be dancing around acting like it was the greatest signing in the world either. Heck I'd rather have Joey Porter 10 times out of 10 times over Dockery and you don't see me talking about Joey Porter at all. Sure I was here talking about it when he signed, but that was a month ago. I realize Porter and Dockery play two different positions, but if we needed a G or an OLB like the Bills do and my choices were Porter or Dockery that's a no brainer I'll take the player that will be the bigger impact by far and that's Porter.

You also seem to think Dockery is going to make this huge impact to your line, you weren't just a G away from being a playoff Oline. You weren't just a G away from being a good line. You still have no RB and just because you draft one doesn't mean he'll be a success either. According to Bill fans, Willis wasn't! OG is one of the eaisest transition to make out of College because they have such little resposibility, they don't have to call any plays like a C or face the best D player on a Defense week in and week out like a LT. Guards are important as any position, but they aren't the key ingredient on an Oline. Kris Dielman came into SD as a Rookie and has been their ever sense, he just one example of which there are many.

Idk if you've ever hear of players like Tommie Harris, Warren Sapp, John Stroud, Ted Washington, but at times I'd say they could be the best player on their defenses. The interior game is huge, especially in the run game, and what did we struggle with? the run game? yup. so we upgraded.

and yes, bennie anderson WAS one of the best players on your line, that btw got shredded by our so-so d-line in the first meeting.

[trapezeus]

I wouldn't be dancing around acting like it was the greatest signing in the world either. Heck I'd rather have Joey Porter 10 times out of 10 times over Dockery and you don't see me talking about Joey Porter at all. Sure I was here talking about it when he signed, but that was a month ago. I realize Porter and Dockery play two different positions, but if we needed a G or an OLB like the Bills do and my choices were Porter or Dockery that's a no brainer I'll take the player that will be the bigger impact by far and that's Porter.

You also seem to think Dockery is going to make this huge impact to your line, you weren't just a G away from being a playoff Oline. You weren't just a G away from being a good line. You still have no RB and just because you draft one doesn't mean he'll be a success either. According to Bill fans, Willis wasn't! OG is one of the eaisest transition to make out of College because they have such little resposibility, they don't have to call any plays like a C or face the best D player on a Defense week in and week out like a LT. Guards are important as any position, but they aren't the key ingredient on an Oline. Kris Dielman came into SD as a Rookie and has been their ever sense, he just one example of which there are many.

of course you'd rather have porter. He and his posse would jump you and beat you down if you said anything different.

Bottom Line: Fins are terrible, and have much less of a chance to be successful in the near future because they are currently the buffalo bills of two years ago. They keep thinking that they are one or two small changes away. And until you just come to terms, "my team sucks, we need drastic changes and start over." you'll be perenially rooting for a team that is signing high cost, big name players to soothe fans like yourself who also know very little about the game and the players needed to play the game. until you do that, you can just get amped up for getting joey porter and a refreshed ricky williams and think, Daunte really is going to make a huge turnaround this year. And we'll be awesome. Prayer can be powerful, but it's rarely unrealistic.

[mchurchfie]

if Dockery is a big improvement to the Bills Oline whats that tell you about the rest of the talent there?
Right, and your Oline let us sack your QB's how many times the first game against you last year. You better duck when that boomerang comes back your way.

[feelthepain]

of course you'd rather have porter. He and his posse would jump you and beat you down if you said anything different.

Bottom Line: Fins are terrible, and have much less of a chance to be successful in the near future because they are currently the buffalo bills of two years ago. They keep thinking that they are one or two small changes away. And until you just come to terms, "my team sucks, we need drastic changes and start over." you'll be perenially rooting for a team that is signing high cost, big name players to soothe fans like yourself who also know very little about the game and the players needed to play the game. until you do that, you can just get amped up for getting joey porter and a refreshed ricky williams and think, Daunte really is going to make a huge turnaround this year. And we'll be awesome. Prayer can be powerful, but it's rarely unrealistic.

Really?? So where does your Defense rank?? Before losing Spikes, Fletcher and Clements?? 18TH! And where did your Offense rank before you lost WM?? 27TH!

Miami was 20th on offense and 4th on Defense, but the fins are terrible? Um what planet do you live on where the Dolphins finished with better stats on both side of the ball (much better) then the Bills and we are terrible and two years behind the Bills??

[trapezeus]

Really?? So where does your Defense rank?? Before losing Spikes, Fletcher and Clements?? 18TH! And where did your Offense rank before you lost WM?? 27TH!

Miami was 20th on offense and 4th on Defense, but the fins are terrible? Um what planet do you live on where the Dolphins finished with better stats on both side of the ball (much better) then the Bills and we are terrible and two years behind the Bills??

Well naturally the stats that mean the most are offensive and defensive ratings. Wins and losses are secondary, and furthermore, head to head matchups in third place.

The dolphins are unsettled at QB, their coach in bringing in a new system, their defense has been hanging on with respectability despite their age, and they brought in another washed up LB to wrap up his career in sunny florida. The truth is that the dolphins are trying to put pieces together as though they are competitors and one or two flaws away. Yes, they sucked two years ago but had a great finish. Bills did that three years ago. People all said the bills would be amazing the following year. Fell flat on their face. Dolphins experienced that last year. The bills brought in new coach with determinatino to have open competition for QB position. Dolphins are doing that now.

The dolphins will finish at the bottom of the east. You can tell me how many pushup's your defense can do, and how much money they make, but they're still a bad team. You can't run from that.

[feelthepain]

Well naturally the stats that mean the most are offensive and defensive ratings. Wins and losses are secondary, and furthermore, head to head matchups in third place.

The dolphins are unsettled at QB, their coach in bringing in a new system, their defense has been hanging on with respectability despite their age, and they brought in another washed up LB to wrap up his career in sunny florida. The truth is that the dolphins are trying to put pieces together as though they are competitors and one or two flaws away. Yes, they sucked two years ago but had a great finish. Bills did that three years ago. People all said the bills would be amazing the following year. Fell flat on their face. Dolphins experienced that last year. The bills brought in new coach with determinatino to have open competition for QB position. Dolphins are doing that now.

The dolphins will finish at the bottom of the east. You can tell me how many pushup's your defense can do, and how much money they make, but they're still a bad team. You can't run from that.

I just love how everyone the Dolphins sign is washed up and everyone the Bill sign is a stud.


The dolphins will finish at the bottom of the east. You can tell me how many pushup's your defense can do, and how much money they make, but they're still a bad team. You can't run from that.

Funny, that's where I see the Bills.<!-- / message -->

[trapezeus]

I just love how everyone the Dolphins sign is washed up and everyone the Bill sign is a stud.

The QB position for you guys isn't washed up. It's just awful. If that makes you feel better. Your receivers will have the moulds complex of being too good without any help of getting the ball. they aren't washed up. they're disgruntled. Your running back situation isn't washed up, just injury prone.

Your defense has been washed up for 2 years, but to their credit have found a way to play well despite their age. Now how much longer can you count on that to stay true? one more year? two more years? they don't add anything to their defense and unless they draft well, i can't see them staying a medium dominant team

Funny, that's where I see the Bills.<!-- / message -->

you are allowed to believe what you want, but in this case you believe in the wrong thing.

[HHURRICANE]

I wouldn't be dancing around acting like it was the greatest signing in the world either. Heck I'd rather have Joey Porter 10 times out of 10 times over Dockery and you don't see me talking about Joey Porter at all. Sure I was here talking about it when he signed, but that was a month ago. I realize Porter and Dockery play two different positions, but if we needed a G or an OLB like the Bills do and my choices were Porter or Dockery that's a no brainer I'll take the player that will be the bigger impact by far and that's Porter.

You also seem to think Dockery is going to make this huge impact to your line, you weren't just a G away from being a playoff Oline. You weren't just a G away from being a good line. You still have no RB and just because you draft one doesn't mean he'll be a success either. According to Bill fans, Willis wasn't! OG is one of the eaisest transition to make out of College because they have such little resposibility, they don't have to call any plays like a C or face the best D player on a Defense week in and week out like a LT. Guards are important as any position, but they aren't the key ingredient on an Oline. Kris Dielman came into SD as a Rookie and has been their ever sense, he just one example of which there are many.

That was alot of writing to not answer my questiion. I asked which rookie in the '07 draft is going to be a better guard than Dockery.

[HHURRICANE]

I wouldn't be dancing around acting like it was the greatest signing in the world either. Heck I'd rather have Joey Porter 10 times out of 10 times over Dockery and you don't see me talking about Joey Porter at all. Sure I was here talking about it when he signed, but that was a month ago. I realize Porter and Dockery play two different positions, but if we needed a G or an OLB like the Bills do and my choices were Porter or Dockery that's a no brainer I'll take the player that will be the bigger impact by far and that's Porter.

You also seem to think Dockery is going to make this huge impact to your line, you weren't just a G away from being a playoff Oline. You weren't just a G away from being a good line. You still have no RB and just because you draft one doesn't mean he'll be a success either. According to Bill fans, Willis wasn't! OG is one of the eaisest transition to make out of College because they have such little resposibility, they don't have to call any plays like a C or face the best D player on a Defense week in and week out like a LT. Guards are important as any position, but they aren't the key ingredient on an Oline. Kris Dielman came into SD as a Rookie and has been their ever sense, he just one example of which there are many.

That was alot of writing to not answer my questiion. I asked which rookie in the '07 draft is going to be a better guard than Dockery.

[feelthepain]

you are allowed to believe what you want, but in this case you believe in the wrong thing.

Funny, I was thinking the same about your response.

[feelthepain]

That was alot of writing to not answer my questiion. I asked which rookie in the '07 draft is going to be a better guard than Dockery.

I don't know, I'm not psychic. I will say that Dockery is not so good that he will be a huge upgrade to a Rookie that might start somewhere this year. No one said Dockery wasn't a good signing by the Bills just that he wasn't anything special and definitely not worth the cost.

[patmoran2006]

Apparently, Prisco didnt see what happens when Bennie Anderson, Mike Gandy and Chris Villarial man the guard position over the past few years.

**** him.. Dockery was worth the money.. We needed a solid Left Side of the line.