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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

    I just wanted to state that Donte Whitner wasnt as much of a reach last year as some people on here think.

    Sure nobody other than Mayock, including myself had him going as high as 8 to Buffalo. But it wasn't like he was a late-first round projection.

    I remember in my own mock draft last year I had Whitner going 16th to Miami. And I remember there were a ton of other mocks that had him going right around there as well. I actually had Buffalo taking a safety at 8 last year as did others on here; just had the wrong guy. I Had Jimmy Williams, with Whitner as my third ranked safetey.

    This year, I dont know but I think they are targeting LB with their first pick.. If Willis is gone, I wouldnt be surprised if the pick is Beason or Pos.. I wont complain about Beason, but I'll be very dissapointed if its Pos, mainly because Beason will be much better in this system, IMO.


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  • gr8slayer
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    • Feb 2005
    • 20796

    #2
    Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

    Every draft pick on the first day is a reach in the grand scheme of things.

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    • justasportsfan
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 71579

      #3
      Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

      it's easy to say taht after the fact. He was a reach to the rest of the NFL but not the bills coaches who got the guy they wanted .

      If the bills draft Beason with the 12th, IMO would be a reach but I will once again give them the benefit of the doubt that they know what they are doing because of Whitner.
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      • Ed
        Dude
        • Sep 2002
        • 9247

        #4
        Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

        Well if it's true that Pitt would consider taking Beason at #15, then the Bills taking him at #12 wouldn't really be a reach at all. He just seemed to suddenly come out of nowhere as a possibility at #12. I'd definitely take him over Pos too.

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        • gr8slayer
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 20796

          #5
          Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

          Originally posted by justasportsfan
          it's easy to say taht after the fact. He was a reach to the rest of the NFL but not the bills coaches who got the guy they wanted .

          If the bills draft Beason with the 12th, I will once again give them the benfit of the doubt that they know what they are doing because of Whitner.
          I give them the benefit of the doubt until we get worse record wise.

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71579

            #6
            Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

            Originally posted by gr8slayer
            I give them the benefit of the doubt until we get worse record wise.
            what about 7-9 again?
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            • gr8slayer
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 20796

              #7
              Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

              Originally posted by justasportsfan
              what about 7-9 again?
              Well that's in one year. As long as we continue to improve they can do whatever they want.

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              • Ickybaluky
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 8884

                #8
                Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                Originally posted by patmoran2006
                I just wanted to state that Donte Whitner wasnt as much of a reach last year as some people on here think.
                Hindsight is great, no?

                I'm willing to bet you were having an apolplexy when the pick was made.

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71579

                  #9
                  Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                  Originally posted by NE39
                  Hindsight is great, no?

                  I'm willing to bet you were having an apolplexy when the pick was made.
                  we all did. I didn't even know who Whitner was. I wasn't around to watch the bills pick Whitner. When I found out we picked him I was like but soon turned into when I heard the fins drafted Allen.
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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                    Originally posted by justasportsfan
                    we all did. I didn't even know who Whitner was. I wasn't around to watch the bills pick Whitner. When I found out we picked him I was like but soon turned into when I heard the fins drafted Allen.
                    Actually, I didnt.

                    OF course, I didnt have Whitner rated as high as 8th (I had him going to Miami at 16), but even you will remember I defended the the draft like crazy.

                    I had Buffalo taking the 2nd best safety at #8.. I just had Jimmy Williams penciled in, not Whitner.

                    The ONLY pick I hated at the time was McCargo, and I still do today


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                    • Ickybaluky
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8884

                      #11
                      Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      Actually, I didnt.
                      You didn't?



                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      I have no problem with WHITNER..

                      I have a huge FN problem with him at number EIGHT.......... I cant wait to hear why "we couldnt trade down".

                      This is bull****.. Tom Modrak needs to hung. I blame him
                      1. That Michael Huff was #1 on our Draft Board like Ive been saying for months, right Ice? 2. Whitner is a very versatile DB and can play Cb, he is also from Ohio St, I think Buffalo is very close to moving Nate and taking an OL/DL late in the 1st, and Watkins to play S in rd 2 or 3. These are my thoughts on the pick as


                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      I am SOOO Pissed with left Leinart on the board, I NEVER expected him to be there.
                      SOMEONE and I mean ANYONE please tell me HOW Donte Whitner at pick number 8 is THAT much a better safety than these guys in the second round. Daniel Bullocks, Ko Simpson, Darnell Bing, Pat Watkins. At least TWO of those four safeties will be there in the second round. Jason Allen and Jimmy Williams were MID first round


                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      SOMEONE and I mean ANYONE please tell me HOW Donte Whitner at pick number 8 is THAT much a better safety than these guys in the second round.

                      Daniel Bullocks, Ko Simpson, Darnell Bing, Pat Watkins.

                      At least TWO of those four safeties will be there in the second round.

                      Jason Allen and Jimmy Williams were MID first round talent, as was Donte Whitner to 31 other teams besides the Bills.

                      What a horrible, horrible HORRIBLE decision.
                      They should have either taken Bunkley or Ngata (though I hate him) or given the circumstances, how the **** could they leave Leinart on the board and not do ANYTHING about that?
                      I understand you flip-flopped later on (big surprise), but you can't say you didn't think the guy was a reach at the time.

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                      • patmoran2006
                        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 19840

                        #12
                        Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                        Who didnt moments after the pick?

                        You can cut and paste about 97% of the board on here and their WHitner reaction then and now.

                        And within 24 hours after the draft I had published **** on Yahoo and Scout.com praising the draft; and in a "rankings" category had the Bills 4th out of 32 in the draft itself.


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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                          I was never pissed at the whitner pick.. I was livid that we didnt trade down a few spots and take him.


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                          • justasportsfan
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71579

                            #14
                            Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                            Originally posted by patmoran2006
                            Who didnt moments after the pick?

                            .
                            Not me!!!!






                            I didn't know who he was to even formulate an opinion
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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: Whitner wasnt all that much a reach

                              Originally posted by justasportsfan
                              Not me!!!!






                              I didn't know who he was to even formulate an opinion
                              Well then congrats, you fall into that 3% bracket mentioned


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