The Bills Have Chosen........ Poorly

[gr8slayer]

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/04/the_bills_have_chosen_poorly.html

Why in the names of Thurman Thomas and Nate Odomes are the Buffalo Bills going into this draft needing a running back and cornerback? Because Tom Donahoe and Marv Levy chose poorly.

Last offseason, Levy essentially negotiated against himself in trying to bring back receiver Peerless Price. No other team was that interested in the former Bill, who had been a bust in Atlanta, yet Levy gave him a contract worth $10 million over four years.

Then Levy overpaid in the draft as well, reaching for safety Donte Whitner (eighth overall) and trading back into the first round to draft defensive tackle John McCargo with the 26th pick. The Bills got terrible value for both players, whom the team could have had much later.

Levy began this offseason by similarly overvaluing free agents. He retained Chris Kelsay -- a good, but certainly not great, defensive end -- with a deal worth almost $6 million per year and then chose to let some of the team's best defenders go and instead overpay two average linemen.

Knowing Levy, though, the Bills might just as easily decide to draft one of the receivers rated at the bottom of the first round. After all, that would fit right in with all of the other mistakes the team has made this decade.

Ouch

[Neggie Nancy]

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Its pretty much all true though, like it or not.

[gr8slayer]

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Its pretty much all true though, like it or not.

To a point it's true but I still don't think you can say "Whitner and McCargo are poor choices." You never know with any rookie for at least three years.

[Devin]

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Ouch.

[Novacane]

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He comes off as an arrogant know it all but I pretty much agree with everything except not resigning Clements

[gr8slayer]

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He comes off as an arrogant know it all but I pretty much agree with everything except not resigning Clements

It's hard not to, but every move a team makes is going to come under scrutiny by someone.

[Night Train]

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I'll never understand Price and Kelsay is outright baffling. RB,LB should easily be replaced next weekend.

[gr8slayer]

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I'll never understand Price and Kelsay is outright baffling. RB,LB should easily be replaced next weekend.

You'll never understand the Kelsay thing until you realize that the cap went up ALOT!

There's no way Dockery would have gotten what he got this time last year but because there's so much more money out there................

BTW, Kelsay is a great leader, motivator, and an above average player who can teach. He's our most intense player on the Defensive side of the ball and I love it.

[raphael120]

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i like what the one guy commented on that talkback for that article

"the bills dumped off the big time names, not the big time playmakers"

[camelcowboy]

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the witner/mccargo point and value is garbage. who cares, ill listen to it maybe in five years right now to premature to tell. I like both players and Whitner has shown he's anything but a reach. This guy posting the bills received bad value just makes him sound likes he's reading last years post draft press clipings.

[realdealryan]

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Basically realfootball loves the Bills from everything else I've read. I guess they need to beat the crap out of them every once in a while to avoid being Bills-lovers.

Seriously, though, this is mostly opinion. The only clear bust of the Marv era is overpaying Peerless (while saying it I keep seeing the touchdown against the Vikings and the game-winner in Houston). $10 million for two plays per year? He'll get cut this year or next.

Talk about old stuff- Whitner and McCargo are considered reaches unless they get defensive MVP. Did we forget about the big drop-off after these guys at their respective positions? If one other team needed this position, these guys are gone before we have a chance. And if Youboty is a starter this year, then getting this guy when we did was a steal. And Ellison, Williams, Pennington in later rounds. Part-time starters or rotational guys....don't they outweigh a slight reach?

You've got to remember Marv's philosophy and look at the DE market currently when examining Kelsay's deal. He is a talented character guy in a newly inflated market and Marv wanted to keep him. Not the best guy on our line, but a big part nonetheless. Look for Marv to err towards character rather than all-out talent. "Talent fails without character" or something. You can't critcisize this philosophy with real stats until we are *****ing about how the Bills still suck in 2010. You have go give Marv a little more time to remake this team with Mod and Dickie.


I'm not throwing any stones unless we end up with a bunch of "great people" who couldn't make it in arena football.

[gr8slayer]

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Basically realfootball loves the Bills from everything else I've read. I guess they need to beat the crap out of them every once in a while to avoid being Bills-lovers.

Seriously, though, this is mostly opinion. The only clear bust of the Marv era is overpaying Peerless (while saying it I keep seeing the touchdown against the Vikings and the game-winner in Houston). $10 million for two plays per year? He'll get cut this year or next.

Talk about old stuff- Whitner and McCargo are considered reaches unless they get defensive MVP. Did we forget about the big drop-off after these guys at their respective positions? If one other team needed this position, these guys are gone before we have a chance. And if Youboty is a starter this year, then getting this guy when we did was a steal. And Ellison, Williams, Pennington in later rounds. Part-time starters or rotational guys....don't they outweigh a slight reach?

You've got to remember Marv's philosophy and look at the DE market currently when examining Kelsay's deal. He is a talented character guy in a newly inflated market and Marv wanted to keep him. Not the best guy on our line, but a big part nonetheless. Look for Marv to err towards character rather than all-out talent. "Talent fails without character" or something. You can't critcisize this philosophy with real stats until we are *****ing about how the Bills still suck in 2010. You have go give Marv a little more time to remake this team with Mod and Dickie.


I'm not throwing any stones unless we end up with a bunch of "great people" who couldn't make it in arena football.

That's not ten million guaranteed.

[camelcowboy]

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Whitner was as good if not better then huff, and McCargo in five games accomplished more then bunkley did all your. Who got the better value?

[realdealryan]

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That's not ten million guaranteed.

That's what I'm saying. And he won't see the end of the contract either.

[madness]

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People seem to forget that the same crap was said when Marv was coach and had upper management help him bring in his type of players. Those questions died pretty quickly.

That's okay, the same fools and their "sheep" will be wrong again when all is said and done.