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Jeff1220
04-27-2007, 09:01 AM
but his injuries scare me!

streetkings01
04-27-2007, 09:05 AM
You can put me on that list also! I dont see him playing a full season in his NFL career. I have a feeling he will be on the injury report every other week as doubtful to probable!

TacklingDummy
04-27-2007, 09:07 AM
I hope the Bills don't draft AP.

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:12 AM
Its a concern, sure.. but when you look at the type of injuries he's had and how they happened, its not as bad as it seems. Its not like he's had one nagging problem, or knee / back problems. The guy is NOT run of the mill back, a lot of people think he's one of the best to come out in a while, so teams may be willing to overlook the injuries because his potential is so great.

That said, I don't know if I like the idea of trading up for him. Getting Turner, and then a LB with our 1st rounder (Willis if he's there, or hopefully trading down maybe 8-10 spots if he's not), makes the most sense to me.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:12 AM
I don't care for the guy either so no you aren't the only one.

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 09:13 AM
Me neither. I'd much rather have Lynch than Peterson. MUCH.

Not just the past injuries, but just watching the guy run upright I can see Rodney Harrison pop him square in the chest and BAM, broken ribs and out of the season.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:15 AM
Me neither. I'd much rather have Lynch than Peterson. MUCH.
You are wise :miyagi:

OpIv37
04-27-2007, 09:15 AM
I wouldn't mind AP for the right price but I think what we'd have to pay to get him is far more than he's worth.

I have a nagging suspicion that he's one of these guys who will light up the league for 2 years then more or less disappear.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:15 AM
I wouldn't mind AP for the right price but I think what we'd have to pay to get him is far more than he's worth.

I have a nagging suspicion that he's one of these guys who will light up the league for 2 years then more or less disappear.
Kind of like Cadillac Williams?

kgun12
04-27-2007, 09:16 AM
I don't like him. Except for the possible "baggage" I like Lynch a lot better! Having said that I still wouldn't draft an RB in the first round!

The Spaz
04-27-2007, 09:17 AM
Concidering how many carries he had the injuries aren't that bad. He was that teams offense and teams knew it. There QB stunk and he was the only viable option and he still put up numbers.

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:18 AM
Me neither. I'd much rather have Lynch than Peterson. MUCH.


As much as I like Lynch, thats just silly.. (assuming you mean if they were both there at 12, you'd take Lynch)

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:18 AM
I don't like him. Except for the possible "baggage" I like Lynch a lot better! Having said that I still wouldn't draft an RB in the first round!
Wasn't convicted, charges were dropped, he didn't do it.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:18 AM
As much as I like Lynch, thats just silly.. (assuming you mean if they were both there at 12, you'd take Lynch)
What's silly about it?

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 09:22 AM
As much as I like Lynch, thats just silly.. (assuming you mean if they were both there at 12, you'd take Lynch)
Absolutely. I'd rather have Lynch.

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:22 AM
What's silly about it?

Look, I like Lynch a lot (see my sig).. but if Peterson ever fell to 12, nobody in their right mind would take Lynch over him..

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 09:23 AM
Wasn't convicted, charges were dropped, he didn't do it.
Actually I hope all his "character issues" rap makes him fall all the way back to us in the 2nd round. :drool:

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:23 AM
Look, I like Lynch a lot (see my sig).. but if Peterson ever fell to 12, nobody in their right mind would take Lynch over him..
Man take my word for it, Peterson is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overrated.

He had one of the best, biggest OL's the whole time he was there. He runs too high and will be injured every time you turn your head because of it.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:24 AM
Actually I hope all his "character issues" rap makes him fall all the way back to us in the 2nd round. :drool:
Sadly I don't think it will happen with Green Bay and Tennessee needing an RB :(

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 09:24 AM
Look, I like Lynch a lot (see my sig).. but if Peterson ever fell to 12, nobody in their right mind would take Lynch over him..
Why not? That's back to the question who you like more, at any spot.

I think Lynch is a better, more reliable, more versatile player than Peterson. Period.

patmoran2006
04-27-2007, 09:26 AM
Grayer..

FOr being so high on Lynch over AP, and talking about injuries.

Isnt Lynch's back ALREADY being questioned? He's already in the same boat with AP in terms of question marks about his durability; not to mention questions about his attitude.

Peterson is a ****ing monster and sick combo of size and speed. I'd be happy with Lynch too because I like you value the importance of a great runner, but there is a reason AP is a Top 5 player and Lynch isnt

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:28 AM
Grayer..

FOr being so high on Lynch over AP, and talking about injuries.

Isnt Lynch's back ALREADY being questioned? He's already in the same boat with AP in terms of question marks about his durability; not to mention questions about his attitude.

Peterson is a ****ing monster and sick combo of size and speed. I'd be happy with Lynch too because I like you value the importance of a great runner, but there is a reason AP is a Top 5 player and Lynch isnt
Patrick, watching highlight films on Yahoo.com does not show you everything you need to know about a Running Back. I sadly live too close to Oklahoma and have to watch his crap every weekend. The guy is a product of having all-stars surrounding him and more importantly infront of him.

How many games did Lynch miss because of that back in college?

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:45 AM
Why not? That's back to the question who you like more, at any spot.

I think Lynch is a better, more reliable, more versatile player than Peterson. Period.

Maybe 'nobody in their right mind' was a little strong.. Taking the draft POSITION into account, having to trade up a few spots for AD vs. taking Lynch at 12, I would prefer Lynch. He is more versatile, and IMO he's about as close to a perfect fit for Fairchild's offense as you can get.

But I don't think there is a team in the league that if they were picking at 12, and both were still on the board, would take Lynch over Peterson, just my opinion.

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:48 AM
Maybe 'nobody in their right mind' was a little strong.. Taking the draft POSITION into account, having to trade up a few spots for AD vs. taking Lynch at 12, I would prefer Lynch. He is more versatile, and IMO he's about as close to a perfect fit for Fairchild's offense as you can get.

But I don't think there is a team in the league that if they were picking at 12, and both were still on the board, would take Lynch over Peterson, just my opinion.
<img src="http://www.billszone.com/jjamezz/ralph.stfu.n00b.jpg" alt="" border="0">

:D

Jan Reimers
04-27-2007, 09:51 AM
I don't like him. Except for the possible "baggage" I like Lynch a lot better! Having said that I still wouldn't draft an RB in the first round!
I agree. I'd like the best LB we can get in the first, then a high motor, team-oriented guy like Brian Leonard in the 2nd or 3rd.

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 09:51 AM
But I don't think there is a team in the league that if they were picking at 12, and both were still on the board, would take Lynch over Peterson, just my opinion.
But Marv has shown that he doesn't care what the rest of the league would do, he's going to take who he wants, which I agree with. So if he has Lynch rated higher than Peterson (who knows), why would it be crazy to take Lynch at 12, 22, or 1? Keep in mind I'm merely comparing the 2 RBs, not taking into account any other positions.

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:52 AM
<img src="http://www.billszone.com/jjamezz/ralph.stfu.n00b.jpg" alt="" border="0">

:D

Are you implying I STFU?

:snicker:

gr8slayer
04-27-2007, 09:54 AM
Are you implying I STFU?

:snicker:
No Ralph is :D

JJamezz
04-27-2007, 09:59 AM
No Ralph is :D

Well, until Lynch actually gets drafted ahead of Peterson, I'd, uh, sorry.. Ralph suggests you do the same.

:up:

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 10:09 AM
Well, until Lynch actually gets drafted ahead of Peterson, I'd, uh, sorry.. Ralph suggests you do the same.

:up:
By that logic:

Charles Rogers should be way better than Anquan Boldin;
McGahee is better than Larry Johnson;
Mike Williams is better than Levi Jones;
Quentin Jammer is better than Ed Reed...

The Spaz
04-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Peterson as a freshmen had almost 2,000 yards rushing and set the teams rushing record. The man is a beast. I like Lynch as well but you will not hear from any scout that Lynch is better.

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 10:20 AM
Peterson as a freshmen had almost 2,000 yards rushing and set the teams rushing record. The man is a beast. I like Lynch as well but you will not hear from any scout that Lynch is better.
That's freshman year. He ran for less and less and played in fewer and fewer games each year after that.

Jeff1220
04-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Would leaving AP on the board while drafting Lynch create approximately the same reaction as when Indy took Edge over Ricky?

Mr. Miyagi
04-27-2007, 10:28 AM
Would leaving AP on the board while drafting Lynch create approximately the same reaction as when Indy took Edge over Ricky?
Probably, but look who's still playing.

jdbillsfan
04-27-2007, 10:33 AM
Seems like if a running back carries the ball 250 more times, he is likely to be injured a tad more. One injury was non contact related. Peterson is a durable workhorse with game breaking speed.

Lynch split carries and started only a little over half the games he played in. Peterson started every single one.

Peterson:

3 years
747 Carries
4045 Yards
5.4 Avg
84 Long
41 TD's
132.27 Per Game

Lynch:

3 years
Carries 490
Yards 3,230
6.6 Avg
71 Long
29 Td's

justasportsfan
04-27-2007, 10:44 AM
I think Lynch has the ability to have better total yards (catching and running) compared to AP. Question is , who does Fairchild like better in his system.

Bert102176
04-27-2007, 10:57 AM
but his injuries scare me!



I don't trust that he will stay healthy a whole season

streetkings01
04-27-2007, 10:58 AM
Seems like if a running back carries the ball 250 more times, he is likely to be injured a tad more. One injury was non contact related. Peterson is a durable workhorse with game breaking speed.

Lynch split carries and started only a little over half the games he played in. Peterson started every single one.

Peterson:

3 years
747 Carries
4045 Yards
5.4 Avg
84 Long
41 TD's
132.27 Per Game

Lynch:

3 years
Carries 490
Yards 3,230
6.6 Avg
71 Long
29 Td'sWow Peterson carried the ball 257 more times than Lynch! I dont see Peterson lasting more than 4 years in the NFL. If he didn't get injured he would have probably carried the ball about 1000 times.

Bert102176
04-27-2007, 10:59 AM
but doesn't matter cause he won't be there for us to draft anyways