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  • chernobylwraiths
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    Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

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    Originally posted by chernobylwraiths
    Spacek will probably not be dealt because of his salary.

    My opinion:

    Sign Drury at all cost, overpay if you have to. Sign Vanek and Miller long term. Vanek will only get better as well as Miller. Miller is the kind of player to build around for a long time.

    Now the hard ones. Let Briere and Zubrus walk if they want more than what they got this year. That means we have no chance to resign. I like Briere, but he is not the kind of player that will be a force in the playoffs. He is too small and too easily pushed off the puck. Zubrus is the kind of player we want, but 4 to 5 million is too much to tie up in a guy that is as much of a role player as he would be.

    There is no shortage of players I would like to go after in free agency. Guys like Souray and Ryan Smyth, but to be honest, we are the Sabres and there is virtually no way possible to get a big tickets guys like this, nor would Darcy look to bring any in. BUT, there are guys I like that play the kind of game that would be beneficial in the playoffs. Dean McAmmond comes immediately to mind, Stu Barnes (although he might be a bit old) Tomas Holmstrom (probably couldn't be pried from Detroit).

    I certainly don't want to blow up the roster, but I would like to get a bigger hitter on the blueline who can skate and a couple of forwards who aren't afraid to get their nose dirty to go with Gaustad and Mair if we can resign him.

    This team isn't THAT far away.
    what's everyone think? I didn't think anyone was reading the other thread.
  • Dozerdog
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    • Jul 2002
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    Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

    Tweaks- not wholesale changes.

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    • camelcowboy
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      • Mar 2005
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      Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

      Drury- all that, and a bag of chips- every minutes he remains without a deal is blunder on darcy's part.
      Spacek- waste of a fa contract.
      Kalinin - sorry, but enough is enough im done waiting on him.
      Briere- if they sign him great, if not use the space to sign Drury.
      Tempo- if they get ride of spacek, and kalinin i'd keep him. if not. we could go younger.
      Mair- Kaletta could play his role, i wouldn't mind them resigning him.
      Zubrus-i would love to have him on this team. imo


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      • BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
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        • Jan 2004
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        Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

        your going to see this team keep Briere and Drury, let Zubrus walk, Numninen is going to retire, and trade Afinogenov and somebody else to Chicago to try to get their #1 pick in the entry draft to get Kane (Buffalo Kid), and bring MacAurthur, Kaletta(buffalo kid), Ryan, Hunter the (son of Dale Hunter) and Dennis (goalie) up from Rochester.
        Last edited by BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan; 05-19-2007, 09:43 PM.

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        • Philagape
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          Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

          Gotta lock up Drury, and if at all possible Briere too. I don't want to lose a top-10 scorer.
          Those two plus Vanek will eat a lot of cap space. Either through trade or outright release, we could dump Kotalik ($2 million) and Kalinin ($1.75 mil). Hecht ($2.35 mil) is expendable as well.

          I can't fathom Numminen returning. That's another $2.6 million.

          Zubrus ($1.85 mil) would be nice to keep but not at any cost.
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          • camelcowboy
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            • Mar 2005
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            Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

            Originally posted by LOSman WINS
            your going to see this team keep Briere and Drury, let go of Zubrus, and trade Afinogenov in the draft to move up in the draft to try get Kane, and bring MacAurthur, Kaletta, Ryan, Hunter, and Dennis up from Rochester.
            God your the worst type of homer, keep all the local guys even if it cost you the ability to win.


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            • TheGhostofJimKelly
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              • May 2003
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              Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship m

              Originally Posted by SkateZilla
              You might want to go back to history buddy... ther Luftwaffe didnt bomb Pearl Harbor, the Japanese Did...


              Holy cow, that is so funny. SkateZilla, you need to get out more.

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              • Philagape
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                Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                Here's one blogger's idea (posted before the Zubrus trade). He suggests trading Hecht, but I'd dump Kalinin and Kotalik first



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                • BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
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                  Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                  Originally posted by Philagape
                  Gotta lock up Drury, and if at all possible Briere too. I don't want to lose a top-10 scorer.
                  Those two plus Vanek will eat a lot of cap space. Either through trade or outright release, we could dump Kotalik ($2 million) and Kalinin ($1.75 mil). Hecht ($2.35 mil) is expendable as well.

                  I can't fathom Numminen returning. That's another $2.6 million.

                  Zubrus ($1.85 mil) would be nice to keep but not at any cost.
                  Um Brad Riter on the WGR55 Post game show today said that you don't have to pay Vanek he's a RFA after this year and he's not going anywhere, The Sabres hold all the cards unless a team wants to give up a first round draft choice for him. Brad did say that they (Sabres) will give him a pay raise though but nothing big.

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                  • Philagape
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                    Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                    Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                    Um Brad Riter on the WGR55 Post game show today said that you don't have to pay Vanek he's a RFA after this year and he's not going anywhere, The Sabres hold all the cards unless a team wants to give up a first round draft choice for him. Brad did say that they (Sabres) will give him a pay raise though but nothing big.
                    We have to pay him if we want him on the ice. I do.
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                    • casdhf
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                      Kalinin played himself out of Buffalo.
                      Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                      cas,

                      I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

                      BillsZone Mod

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                      • BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
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                        Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                        Originally posted by Philagape
                        Here's one blogger's idea (posted before the Zubrus trade). He suggests trading Hecht, but I'd dump Kalinin and Kotalik first



                        http://www.sabresreport.com/blogs/?cat=7
                        that's not what I have

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                        • Philagape
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                          Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                          Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                          That's what I was looking for. The blogger is off a bit.
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                          • camelcowboy
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                            Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship mater

                            Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                            Um Brad Riter on the WGR55 Post game show today said that you don't have to pay Vanek he's a RFA after this year and he's not going anywhere, The Sabres hold all the cards unless a team wants to give up a first round draft choice for him. Brad did say that they (Sabres) will give him a pay raise though but nothing big.
                            first rounders won't help this team. 43 goal scorers in the line up will. He's lazy along the board but he produces and he's young. Kotalik is unproductive when lazy which is most of the time. kick him to the curve.


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                            • chernobylwraiths
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                              Re: Forked Thread: Time for Darcy to finally see that this team is not Championship m

                              Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                              Um Brad Riter on the WGR55 Post game show today said that you don't have to pay Vanek he's a RFA after this year and he's not going anywhere, The Sabres hold all the cards unless a team wants to give up a first round draft choice for him. Brad did say that they (Sabres) will give him a pay raise though but nothing big.
                              I like Brad, but he is possibly way off base here. As GOJK has pointed out, Vanek is that rare type of talent that could garner a HUGE contract from some team with a ton of cap space. They could sign him to a contract that would be impossible to match. I don't know if the first round compensation would be worth losing Vanek. Now, getting the first choice in the draft and getting Tavares might take some of the sting away...

                              No, I don't want to lose Vanek.

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