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alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 06:02 AM
Out of all the active Quarterbacks out there today, which one, based on performance, mechanics and ability does JP remind you of?

YardRat
05-23-2007, 06:09 AM
Starter, back-up, or third-string?

The Quebecer
05-23-2007, 06:11 AM
Brett Favre...

Pinkerton Security
05-23-2007, 06:16 AM
Brett Favre...

my thoughts exactly. I thought about this for a good while, and I simply couldnt think of anyone else that more resembled JP, or vice-versa I guess.

jamze132
05-23-2007, 06:26 AM
This question seems biased, like it was meant to be a JP / Brett love fest. I don't think that JP looks like Brett on the playing field. I know they have been compared to before but I think most of that came from GB when they wanted to draft Losman.

Mitchy moo
05-23-2007, 06:28 AM
This question seems biased, like it was meant to be a JP / Brett love fest. I don't think that JP looks like Brett on the playing field. I know they have been compared to before but I think most of that came from GB when they wanted to draft Losman.

Farve seen his share of good and not so good teams, so far the Bills haven't fielded a team good enough to win with him, yet.

Mr. Pink
05-23-2007, 06:49 AM
Kyle Boller.

Same type of QB and same questionable mentalities.

Hopefully Losman can edge past Boller on the mental part of the game.

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 07:19 AM
My choice is Drew Brees. JP is just a little taller but IMO they move about the same and both have similar deliveries, your thoughts?

dannyek71
05-23-2007, 07:21 AM
Vick

Pinkerton Security
05-23-2007, 07:23 AM
My choice is Drew Brees. JP is just a little taller but IMO they move about the same and both have similar deliveries, your thoughts?

Ya they do have a similar release, JP has a stronger arm though. How about a mix of Brees and Favre?

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Ya they do have a similar release, JP has a stronger arm though. How about a mix of Brees and Favre?

I would take that mix! Just not the Favre INT'S!

Pinkerton Security
05-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Vick

I was also tempted to say Vick, although vick's release is soooo effortless, it doesnt really look like JPs. Still, I think JP is very close to being the 2nd fastest QB behind Vick, although I guess VY has the 2nd spot on lockdown, but they both suck, so JP is better!

Honestly, if you all had a choice between Vick and JP, with marketing purposes set aside, who would you rather have? I think id have to go with JP personally.

BillsNick
05-23-2007, 07:47 AM
Brett Favre...


I agree. Same firey passion, and same motor.

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 07:54 AM
I agree. Same firey passion, and same motor.

On the contrary, I wish I would see a little more fire and brimstone out of JP! I think he started to come around later last year which is to be expected as he gains respect and a leadership role~ I want to see him come out this season with that same attitude!

P.S. Welcome back, haven't seen ya in a while!

Chris23
05-23-2007, 08:11 AM
Donovan McNabb, around the same body size, both have big arms, both have great mobility.

Philagape
05-23-2007, 08:15 AM
Until now, he's reminded me of Jake Plummer, but I expect him to surpass that this year

Jan Reimers
05-23-2007, 09:03 AM
Vick
With a brain and a more accurate arm, and without the pit bulls.

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 09:04 AM
I agree.
Plummer to this point.

And did I REALLY hear Drew Brees as an answer to a QB comparision?
LMAO.... Brees is maybe the most accurate passer in the entire NFL.

Michael82
05-23-2007, 09:33 AM
Brett Favre...
I've been thinking the same thing. Good post! :hi5:

ublinkwescore
05-23-2007, 09:41 AM
He's gonna be his own kind of QB - he said it himself - so JP - accept no substitutes!!

The Hypothesis
05-23-2007, 09:43 AM
Doug Flutie + Jim Kelly = JP Losman

~The Hypothesis.

Coach Sal
05-23-2007, 09:43 AM
Active QB: Mark Brunell
Former QB: Randall Cunningham (later in his career when he ran less)

LtBillsFan66
05-23-2007, 09:44 AM
Andrew Walter

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 09:48 AM
I agree.
Plummer to this point.

And did I REALLY hear Drew Brees as an answer to a QB comparision?
LMAO.... Brees is maybe the most accurate passer in the entire NFL.

Uh, Jr. journalist, could you please, please do a little research prior to injecting negativity into any and every thread!

Drew Brees
2002 60% First year as 16 game starter
2003 57%
2004 65%
2005 65%
2006 64% JP 62% First year as 16 game starter

Lets not forget Brees has LT and JP had Willis freaking McGahee

P.S. I never said he was or ever will be as good as Brees, I simply stated that I believe they have similar throwing motion/release and mobility.

Don't quit your day job!

THATHURMANATOR
05-23-2007, 09:50 AM
PatMoran just got SERVED!!!!

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TacklingDummy
05-23-2007, 09:52 AM
Active QB: David Carr, Joey Harrington
Former QB: Rob Johnson

Pinkerton Security
05-23-2007, 09:56 AM
Active QB: David Carr
Former QB: Rob Johnson

I was waiting for this...:yawn:

Devin
05-23-2007, 10:00 AM
JP imo is Kyle Boller with better intangibles. Like a Boller/Favre mix.

Strong arm, very athletic, will beat you deep all day but has a lot of growing in the mental aspects of the game.

Devin
05-23-2007, 10:00 AM
Uh, Jr. journalist, could you please, please do a little research prior to injecting negativity into any and every thread!

Drew Brees
2002 60% First year as 16 game starter
2003 57%
2004 65%
2005 65%
2006 64% JP 62% First year as 16 game starter

Lets not forget Brees has LT and JP had Willis freaking McGahee

P.S. I never said he was or ever will be as good as Brees, I simply stated that I believe they have similar throwing motion/release and mobility.

Don't quit your day job!

DAMN!!!! nice post dude.

THATHURMANATOR
05-23-2007, 10:04 AM
JP imo is Kyle Boller with better intangibles. Like a Boller/Favre mix.

Strong arm, very athletic, will beat you deep all day but has a lot of growing in the mental aspects of the game.
I can agree with this to a point but IMO Losman has already proven more than Boller ever did.

ParanoidAndroid
05-23-2007, 10:05 AM
He reminds me of Jake Delhomme perhaps because of the similarities in the passing game. Both throw the long ball to a go-to deep threat, and neither have mastered the art of putting the right touch on the screen.
JP has much more upside and is already surpassing Delhomme in terms of overall production. If his vision continues to improve and he gets that screen pass down, then we can start talking about a Favre comparison.

Devin
05-23-2007, 10:07 AM
I can agree with this to a point but IMO Losman has already proven more than Boller ever did.

I agree, im not comparing thier careers just thier game/style.

Coming out of college both of them were practically the same. JP has evolved and caught up with the pro game much better then Boller, that said this season will say a lot about where he is and what type of QB he will be.

Pinkerton Security
05-23-2007, 10:16 AM
He reminds me of Jake Delhomme perhaps because of the similarities in the passing game. Both throw the long ball to a go-to deep threat, and neither have mastered the art of putting the right touch on the screen.
JP has much more upside and is already surpassing Delhomme in terms of overall production. If his vision continues to improve and he gets that screen pass down, then we can start talking about a Favre comparison.

Ya, and JP has to add the illegal shovel pass and the fake-jump pass into his arsenal before he is in brett's league.

The Answer
05-23-2007, 12:40 PM
He's a more mobile Kelly Holcomb - after all JP did benefit from his tutelage for 2 years.

~The Answer

PECKERWOOD
05-23-2007, 12:49 PM
He reminds me alot of Jeff Garcia but with better feet and a stronger arm.

TacklingDummy
05-23-2007, 01:11 PM
He's a more mobile Kelly Holcomb - after all JP did benefit from his tutelage for 2 years.

~The Answer

JP passes between 0-10 yards last year was 217 of 302 for 1705 yards, 9 TDs, 6 Ints. 71 Comp. %

Very Holcombish.

JP only attempted 122 passes over 10 yards. Compared to Mannings 201, Favre 191, Brady 144, Vick 166.

JP needs to throw the ball downfield more this year. It will help loosen up the running game.

The Answer
05-23-2007, 01:19 PM
JP passes between 0-10 yards last year was 217 of 302 for 1705 yards, 9 TDs, 6 Ints. 71 Comp. %

Very Holcombish.

JP only attempted 122 passes over 10 yards. Compared to Mannings 201.

JP needs to throw the ball downfield more this year. It will help loosen up the running game.

Exactly TD - very solid intermdiate passing game, but JP needs to work on his downfield passing game and of course he is more mobile than The Holcomb.

~The Answer

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 01:26 PM
Uh, Jr. journalist, could you please, please do a little research prior to injecting negativity into any and every thread!

Drew Brees
2002 60% First year as 16 game starter
2003 57%
2004 65%
2005 65%
2006 64% JP 62% First year as 16 game starter

Lets not forget Brees has LT and JP had Willis freaking McGahee

P.S. I never said he was or ever will be as good as Brees, I simply stated that I believe they have similar throwing motion/release and mobility.

Don't quit your day job!
What a ******ed post, evaluating quarterbacks by their NUMBERS ONLY..

If that's the case, Einstein.. Then did you compare Rob Johnson to Joe Montana?? I mean, Rob Johnson is the most "accurate" passer in the history of the franchise.

People who use soley numbers to compare players are a JOKE..

I can name 10 shortstops in baseball who have as good or better regular season numbers than Derek Jeter.. But name me ONE who is better when it matters?

Tim Duncan doesnt light up the stat-sheets in the NBA, unless it matters. ****, going by your theory Eddie Curry is just as good as him, or at least should be compared.

London Fletcher was third in the NFL in tackles.. Should he be compared to Mike Singletary? His "numbers" are better than Singletary's were.

Don't compare players strictly by numbers.. That's seriously ******ed.

tampabay25690
05-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Until now, he's reminded me of Jake Plummer, but I expect him to surpass that this year

Thats who I saw also Jake Plummer

TacklingDummy
05-23-2007, 01:36 PM
Exactly TD - very solid intermdiate passing game, but JP needs to work on his downfield passing game and of course he is more mobile than The Holcomb.

~The Answer

On paper the Bills supposedly have a better o-line. So that should help JP attempt more passes downfield.

The Answer
05-23-2007, 01:38 PM
On paper the Bills supposedly have a better o-line. So that should help JP attempt more passes downfield.

Let's hope so - also having a versatile back like Lynch should help him as well.

Now only if we had a real TE target for JP - perhaps Schouman could be that guy.

~The Answer

billsburgh
05-23-2007, 01:50 PM
He's a more mobile Kelly Holcomb - after all JP did benefit from his tutelage for 2 years.

~The Answer
what a bunch of bull****

TacklingDummy
05-23-2007, 02:12 PM
Now only if we had a real TE target for JP - perhaps Schouman could be that guy.

~The Answer


According to the OTA Reports, Everett is reading like the next Tony Gonzalez.

feelthepain
05-23-2007, 03:57 PM
David Carr.

X-Era
05-23-2007, 04:09 PM
Out of all the active Quarterbacks out there today, which one, based on performance, mechanics and ability does JP remind you of?

He's his own player, there no one else quite the same.

Id say hes very similar to Brett Favre. However, JP is more accurate, but obviously not as experienced/skilled.

JP has one of the strongest arms in the game today IMO. He lacks Peyton like accuracy, and poise.

He reminds me of Steve Young the most.

JP's biggest negative remains pocket presence and poise. If he masters that, the skys the limit. I expect that the extra time the new OL additions buys him will make a very real, tangible improvement in both areas. The pressure will be off just a bit more and a second or even half that makes all the difference in the world.

Bling
05-23-2007, 04:12 PM
Clutchness of Brady, Smarts of Manning, Arm of Favre, and Accuracy of Brees.

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 04:18 PM
He's his own player, there no one else quite the same.

Id say hes very similar to Brett Favre. However, JP is more accurate, but obviously not as experienced/skilled.

JP has one of the strongest arms in the game today IMO. He lacks Peyton like accuracy, and poise.

He reminds me of Steve Young the most.

JP's biggest negative remains pocket presence and poise. If he masters that, the skys the limit. I expect that the extra time the new OL additions buys him will make a very real, tangible improvement in both areas. The pressure will be off just a bit more and a second or even half that makes all the difference in the world.
If you're saying he lacks accuracy (which he does I agree) then how in the world can he remind you of Steve Young the most, who's one of the most accurately pin-point passer in the history of the NFL.

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 04:19 PM
Clutchness of Brady, Smarts of Manning, Arm of Favre, and Accuracy of Brees.
Forgot the Brady Quinn good looks and the elusiveness of Vick.

X-Era
05-23-2007, 04:52 PM
If you're saying he lacks accuracy (which he does I agree) then how in the world can he remind you of Steve Young the most, who's one of the most accurately pin-point passer in the history of the NFL.

Ehhhh???? How did you get that I think he has poor accuracy?

I think hes decent as far as accuracy, but not fantstic. He looks like another Steve Young, he isnt exactly the same, but hes very similar. I think he gives up some in accuracy biut gains some in arm strength. But hes a mobile, illusive, fiesty type QB.

He doesnt have the stats or accomplishments to back the comparison, just the "looks" which isnt worth much, but niether is the whole concept of a comparison in the 1st place.

X-Era
05-23-2007, 04:52 PM
Forgot the Brady Quinn good looks and the elusiveness of Vick.

Brady Quinn was supposed to be the savior in Miami.

Why is that still funny????

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Ehhhh???? How did you get that I think he has poor accuracy?

I think hes decent as far as accuracy, but not fantstic. He looks like another Steve Young, he isnt exactly the same, but hes very similar. I think he gives up some in accuracy biut gains some in arm strength. But hes a mobile, illusive, fiesty type QB.

He doesnt have the stats or accomplishments to back the comparison, just the "looks" which isnt worth much, but niether is the whole concept of a comparison in the 1st place.
outside of the ability to scramble and get out of the pocket, I see very LITTLE similarities between Steve Young and JP Losman.

Young lacked arm strength but was a cerebral assasin (to borrow HHH's catchphrase). He was a pin-point passer and at the time he retired I believe he had the highest QB rating % in NFL history. He rarely forced any passes and made bad decisions... Few if any during his era had the touch on his passes Young did.

Losman on the other is the exact opposite. He's a gunslinger who has a rocket for an arm. He can thread the ball on a 60-yard bomb like few QB's in the game today. However, his weaknesses were Young's strengths. Losman often plays out of control, forces passes and throws some of the more horrific looking Interceptions I've ever seen.

G. Host
05-23-2007, 05:16 PM
Out of all the active Quarterbacks out there today, which one, based on performance, mechanics and ability does JP remind you of?

Jake the Snake

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 05:17 PM
To me the most valid comparison is EASILY Plummer.

When Losman is on, he can thread the needle.. He can throw the perfect deep ball. He can ellude the pass rush and make big plays with his feet, and he can throw on the run. Just like "jake the snake"

When he's off.. Losman can look like the worst QB in the NFL.. He can throw the ugliest interceptions ever (Houston game last year).. He trips over his own feet. He forces the ball all over, when he's not holding on to it for a ridiculous amount of time, and he'll have AWFUL tunnel-vision... Just like "jake the mistake"

The comparison is neither an insult or a compliment.. It is what it is

G. Host
05-23-2007, 05:18 PM
Honestly, if you all had a choice between Vick and JP, with marketing purposes set aside, who would you rather have? I think id have to go with JP personally.

JP without a doubt unless I wanted a RB to play QB.

patmoran2006
05-23-2007, 05:26 PM
i'd go with JP as well.

You have so long to prove yourself, and after that in this league you are what you are.. That's Michael Vick to a tee.. A highlight reel that won't produce when you need him to most.

shelby
05-23-2007, 05:34 PM
He reminds me alot of Jeff Garcia but with better feet and a stronger arm.
And less gay.:D

Mad Bomber
05-23-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm posting this without reading any of the responses.

JP reminds me of an unpolished Brett Favre.

Let the negs begin.....

...I don't give a flying f**k.

SABURZFAN
05-23-2007, 05:59 PM
Out of all the active Quarterbacks out there today, which one, based on performance, mechanics and ability does JP remind you of?



rex grossman minus the wins.

HHURRICANE
05-23-2007, 06:05 PM
Matt Hasselbeck.

Ed
05-23-2007, 06:06 PM
I don't know about current QB's. I think his combination of size, arm strength and mobility makes him pretty unique.

I'm gonna go with a young John Elway. Here's hoping JP's career follows a similar path.

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 06:14 PM
What a ******ed post, evaluating quarterbacks by their NUMBERS ONLY..

If that's the case, Einstein.. Then did you compare Rob Johnson to Joe Montana?? I mean, Rob Johnson is the most "accurate" passer in the history of the franchise.

People who use soley numbers to compare players are a JOKE..

I can name 10 shortstops in baseball who have as good or better regular season numbers than Derek Jeter.. But name me ONE who is better when it matters?

Tim Duncan doesnt light up the stat-sheets in the NBA, unless it matters. ****, going by your theory Eddie Curry is just as good as him, or at least should be compared.

London Fletcher was third in the NFL in tackles.. Should he be compared to Mike Singletary? His "numbers" are better than Singletary's were.

Uh, do you know another way to measure accuracy? Einstien? Stop trying to change the subjest anfd stick to the facts , junior!
Don't compare players strictly by numbers.. That's seriously ******ed.

alohabillsfan
05-23-2007, 06:18 PM
I can name 10 shortstops in baseball who have as good or better regular season numbers than Derek Jeter.. But name me ONE who is better when it matters?

Tim Duncan doesnt light up the stat-sheets in the NBA, unless it matters. ****, going by your theory Eddie Curry is just as good as him, or at least should be compared.


WOW, using baseball, basketball to back-up your facts! Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!:dance:
How ESPN or FOX hasn't picked you up still amazes us casual fans! Good luck with that!!!!!!!

EDS
05-23-2007, 06:24 PM
Whomever said Plummer hit the proverbial nail on the head. Hopefully JP does go into neutral like Plummer.

gr8slayer
05-23-2007, 07:05 PM
Jeff Garcia.

justasportsfan
05-23-2007, 08:44 PM
He did remind me of Grossman when Mularkey was the HC until Fairchild made him settle down and improve throwing from the pocket. Now he looks like Flutie with an arm that can throw from the pocket.

gr8slayer
05-23-2007, 08:51 PM
He did remind me of Grossman when Mularkey was the HC until Fairchild made him settle down and improve throwing from the pocket. Now he looks like Flutie with an arm that can throw from the pocket.
Or just Jeff Garcia :D

YardRat
05-23-2007, 09:38 PM
Plummer. Both he and JP seem to have a tensed-up, nervous, and wired body language while they're on the field...kinda of like always being in panic mode. Favre is just the opposite with a relaxed, carefree, "God-damn this is fun, I can't believe they pay me to do this"-type attitude.

Oaklandraider
05-25-2007, 12:25 AM
i think plummber or kyle boller

Historian
05-25-2007, 05:11 AM
Reminds me of Jack Kemp.

Throwing style, running style, arm strength.