RFB365: Walker trade falling apart could work out for Bills

[Mitchy moo]

You're responsible for your own happiness, which is liberating in its own way. But that also means you have to work at it and make difficult choices. For example, you could be a Buffalo Bills fan and feel despair over what the team might end up with if defensive tackle Darwin Walker's huffy holdout continues. But you don't have to, as you can decide to be positive about what might take place in terms of the trade's final outcome.
The Bills should look at this less as a possible catastrophe and more as a chance to sever ties with the past and a way to remove a problem player before he's their problem.
The new commotion regarding the old news of Walker's holdout is over the report that if Walker doesn't show up for training camp, he goes back to the Eagles, who in turn would have to send a sixth-round pick to the Bills. The net would then be Philadelphia getting Walker, Takeo Spikes and Kelly Holcomb, while Buffalo ends up with that pick plus the seventh-rounder it got in the initial transaction. That doesn't look good, but the positive perspective is that the Bills could end up freeing financial resources while removing extraneous guys.

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/06/bills-walkertradefallingapart-couldworkout060607.html

[OpIv37]

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freeing financial resources to use on what? Who's left that's worth signing at this point?

What a joke.

[Jan Reimers]

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Nice read. Maybe Walker isn't quite the savior at DT that the FO bashers are screaming that he is.

I wouldn't mind having Walker, but not at any price, particularly when he's not the run stuffer that we really need.

[BlackMetalNinja]

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I'm sorry, but Walker, Holcombe, and Spikes for a 6th and 7th rd draft pick doesn't do much for me in terms of happiness...

[madness]

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Clearing off some of the few remnants of the Tom Donahoe Reign of Error can only be a positive development. Take losing Spikes, for instance. He may still have the soul of a warrior, but that is useless when you have the ankle of James Caan's character in "Misery." The Bills have their starting linebackers now, and hoping he'd be able to return to his former turf-stomping ways at his salary wasn't worth the gamble to general manager Marv Levy.

[OpIv37]

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Nice read. Maybe Walker isn't quite the savior at DT that the FO bashers are screaming that he is.

I wouldn't mind having Walker, but not at any price, particularly when he's not the run stuffer that we really need.

maybe he's not, but once again- who's available that is better at this point? Do you honestly think our DL is as good with Walker as it is without him? If you do, go back and watch last year's games again.

[Pinkerton Security]

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I'm sorry, but Walker, Holcombe, and Spikes for a 6th and 7th rd draft pick doesn't do much for me in terms of happiness...

Well technically wouldnt it be just Holcomb and Spikes for a 6th and 7th rounder? Since they had Walker to begin with? Not really but it makes the situation sound a little better.

And how about this...Holcomb sucks and we may as well have cut him, we are better off w/o him than with him, so its just Spikes for a 6th and 7th...




still sounds sucky. O well, the past is past, and the deed is done. I am not going to lose sleep over whether we get Walker or a draft pick, I like McCargo Williams and Triplett just enough to not care if we ever see Walker on the field for us.

[Stewie]

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If those guys weren't going to be on the team anyway, picking anything up for them is a bonus. Holcomb was definitely a goner, and good riddance. I'm not sure if TKO has anything left, but he was an aging LB with injury history who was not going to take a paycut to his current value, which like it or not is important to the FO. Seems like he was gone too. Net net two picks where we had none.

[THATHURMANATOR]

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maybe he's not, but once again- who's available that is better at this point? Do you honestly think our DL is as good with Walker as it is without him? If you do, go back and watch last year's games again.

What about Rayburn:?

[Jan Reimers]

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Well technically wouldnt it be just Holcomb and Spikes for a 6th and 7th rounder? Since they had Walker to begin with? Not really but it makes the situation sound a little better.

And how about this...Holcomb sucks and we may as well have cut him, we are better off w/o him than with him, so its just Spikes for a 6th and 7th

Plus we saved about 6 Million in cap room.

[casdhf]

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freeing financial resources to use on what? Who's left that's worth signing at this point?

What a joke.

Lee Evans and J.P. Losman.

[OpIv37]

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What about Rayburn:?

I don't know enough about him specifically to comment, but the Eagles were able to trade Walker and they had to cut Rayburn. So it seems to me there were no trading partners for Rayburn, which suggests (although doesn't prove) that he's not being good.

That being said, the real question for us when discussing DTs is "is he better than Tim Anderson?" because if so, it would be an improvement. The answer is almost always "Yes", although some options are still better than others. I think Walker is about as good as we're going to do at this point.

[OpIv37]

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Lee Evans and J.P. Losman.

if you think they're going to re-sign without testing the FA market, you're kidding yourself. I'd love to see them locked up long-term, but with the amount of money being thrown around in FA, it doesn't make sense for any player to re-sign at this point.

[DraftBoy]

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Nice read. Maybe Walker isn't quite the savior at DT that the FO bashers are screaming that he is.

I wouldn't mind having Walker, but not at any price, particularly when he's not the run stuffer that we really need.

Im sorry but we all thought that getting Walker was a good move for the Bills, and I havent seen one person say he;s the savior at DT (wow this seems familiar to a homer defending the Bills to a realist). Its nice to sit back now and criticize Walker since he's only a pass rusher, but the fact is that at this time, he'd be the best DT on this team, and if you know he wants a new deal, then why trade for him? Why set a deadline unto yourself? Why can nobody answer those questions? Ill tell you why, bc our FO made a mistake, plain and simple.

[casdhf]

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We'll have one or both locked up by this time next year.