SI's top 10 draft surprises of the past decade

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http://www.cnn.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/gallery.nfl.top10draft.surprises.last.10years/content.1.html?cnn=yes


7. Miami passed over Brady Quinn, who had unexpectedly tumbled down in the draft, to take Ted Ginn Jr. out of Ohio State. Dolphins fans slammed the pick and continue to do so now that veteran quarterback Daunte Culpepper appears on his way out of town in favor of 36-year-old Trent Green.

6. Desperate to improve a defense that surrendered the fourth-most yards in 2005, the Bills took Whitner with the eighth pick. The selection raised eyebrows because most scouts and analysts hadn't projected him going in the top 10.

5. McGahee tore up his knee in the Fiesta Bowl and could barely walk, let alone play at the time of the draft. But thanks in part to the work of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, McGahee was taken by the Bills and played well after sitting out his entire rookie season for rehab.


I'm not really sure if Whitner was such a surprise. Mcgahee and Ginn Jr. definitally were though. My jaw dropped after both of those picks.

[HHURRICANE]

We needed a safety and Whitner was the next choice after Huff got taken. To be quite frank has it turned out to be a bad pick??

McGahee was one of the stupidest picks ever because we had a RB!!

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We needed a safety and Whitner was the next choice after Huff got taken. To be quite frank has it turned out to be a bad pick??

McGahee was one of the stupidest picks ever because we had a RB!!

I agree, especially about McGahee. I don't think there's a Bills fan out there who wanted to part ways with Henry for McGahee. I hope to see Whitner come up with some big plays this year, along with some huge hits.

[YardRat]

All three were surprises for me.

There WERE fans that were pretty psyched when McGahee was drafted, but I wasn't one of them.

[RedEyE]

The McGahee pick irratated the hell out of me. Now, even looking back, I'm still irratated.

[Talk0fNewYork]

Gotta love this

Clarett never played a game for Denver and is now in jail.

[Talk0fNewYork]

The McGahee pick irratated the hell out of me. Now, even looking back, I'm still irratated.at least he played for us, and aint in jail!

[Bling]

I remember laughing at McGahee. You had such a good thing with Travis Henry.

[Pinkerton Security]

I feel like that list is very inaccurate, like some 20 year old made it, bc it only goes back like 5 years. Plus, how surprising was it that Eli went to the Chargers? Just bc he didnt want to go there, Brees was sucking at that point and they needed a QB. He was rated arguably the highest. And how surprising can a pick in the 100's be? (Clarett)

[Bling]

I feel like that list is very inaccurate, like some 20 year old made it, bc it only goes back like 5 years. Plus, how surprising was it that Eli went to the Chargers? Just bc he didnt want to go there, Brees was sucking at that point and they needed a QB. He was rated arguably the highest. And how surprising can a pick in the 100's be? (Clarett)

Exactly. I never saw it, but I hear Randy Moss dropping was pretty big. Logan Mankins was a surprise? I didn't even know that was a reach, I don't remember that pickup. How about Aaron Rodgers dropping (the original QB fall)?

[Michael82]

I remember laughing at McGahee. You had such a good thing with Travis Henry.
yeah we did. :sigh:

[Meathead]

mcgahee was a reasonably good pick there. i mean hes a punk ass ***** but hes turned out to be a good starting rb - at least when hes motivated. that may or may not be a terminal problem with him but when he wanted to be he was good. despite our wanting him to bomb in balt, and he might, theres as good a chance he runs hard consistently like he did inconsistently here and ends up elite which would suck

despite henrys impressive and heroic performances, at the time he was still somewhat of a gamble, with injury fumble and jailbird prollems in his recent past. i loved the guy on the field but it was fitty/fitty whether he would boom or bust from there

it coulda been a good situation here both for the team and for henry if he had continued as a successful featured guy, leaving either him or mcgahee as eventual trade bait for some good value

unfortunately if you recall henry mostly stumbled after mcgahee came to the team and basically lost his job. we can find a bunch of reasons why that wasnt henrys fault, some of them very valid, but henry lost 'it' there for a while and couldnt get the job back

at that point he was a risk to anybody and his value plummeted. i was hoping he stuck around here and bided his time, which ironically would have worked out at well at this point, but he wanted out of the situation. i dont blame him really

so a decent pick at that spot but unfortunately for a guy who just didnt fit here regardless. too bad

[LtFinFan66]

It wasn't that big of a surprise that the Fins took Ginn. They need a gamebreaker.

The surprise was the passing on Quinn part which I had no problem with

[BADTHINGSMAN]

So the whitner pick was a stretch because the "analysts" and "experts" didnt have him in there top 10?? Im glad Marv takes what the team needs and not what the experts think we should take because a player is in there top 10..

[Bling]

So the whitner pick was a stretch because the "analysts" and "experts" didnt have him in there top 10?? Im glad Marv takes what the team needs and not what the experts think we should take because a player is in there top 10..

It is a draft surprises. Whitner was a top 25 pick. Bunkley, Ngata, Cutler were top 15 picks. Leinart was a top 5 pick. To pass that up was stupid at the time, but has so far paid up, assuming that you're happy with Losman's performance. Still haven't addressed the DT problem, though.

[HHURRICANE]

Exactly. I never saw it, but I hear Randy Moss dropping was pretty big. Logan Mankins was a surprise? I didn't even know that was a reach, I don't remember that pickup. How about Aaron Rodgers dropping (the original QB fall)?

The only issue with Moss was his issues off the fields, which of course continued for a while after he got drafted. I think Minnesota was always expected to take him though.

[gr8slayer]

Most of you are full of ****. After that '04 season there wasn't a Bills fan out there that didn't want McGahee. He tore the league apart and had he continued to play the way he did in '04 everyone would be talking about HOF.

[feelthepain]

7. Miami passed over Brady Quinn, who had unexpectedly tumbled down in the draft, to take Ted Ginn Jr. out of Ohio State. Dolphins fans slammed the pick and continue to do so now that veteran quarterback Daunte Culpepper appears on his way out of town in favor of 36-year-old Trent Green.


Notice it doesn't say "no one expected Ginn to be taken in the top 10" like it did later in the countdown for Whitner?

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Notice it doesn't say "no one expected Ginn to be taken in the top 10" like it did later in the countdown for Whitner?

Here are some mock drafts:

Ginn at 19
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Ginn at 13
http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/mockdraft.htm

Ginn at 19
http://mtmock.blogspot.com/

Ginn at 17
http://drafttek.com/firstround.html

Ginn at 19
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nflmockdraft.html

Ginn at 19, and they had this to say:

Round 1 - (Best Value) Pick #2 Detroit WR Calvin Johnson...#22 Cleveland QB Brady Quinn

(Worst Value) Pick #9 Miami WR Ted Ginn Jr
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2007draft.html

Most teams had Ginn going at 19 to the Titans. So, although the SI article didn't say it, no one expected Ginn to go in the top 10.

[feelthepain]

Here are some mock drafts:

Ginn at 19
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Ginn at 13
http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/mockdraft.htm

Ginn at 19
http://mtmock.blogspot.com/

Ginn at 17
http://drafttek.com/firstround.html

Ginn at 19
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nflmockdraft.html

Ginn at 19, and they had this to say:

Round 1 - (Best Value) Pick #2 Detroit WR Calvin Johnson...#22 Cleveland QB Brady Quinn

(Worst Value) Pick #9 Miami WR Ted Ginn Jr
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2007draft.html

Most teams had Ginn going at 19 to the Titans. So, although the SI article didn't say it, no one expected Ginn to go in the top 10.


Where was Brady projected? Where was he drafted? It was also reported the The Rams sitting at 10 were gonna take Ginn if we didn't. Many of the draft magazine I have had Ginn as the second best WR in this draft.

[Bling]

Here are some mock drafts:

Ginn at 19
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Ginn at 13
http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/mockdraft.htm

Ginn at 19
http://mtmock.blogspot.com/

Ginn at 17
http://drafttek.com/firstround.html

Ginn at 19
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nflmockdraft.html

Ginn at 19, and they had this to say:

Round 1 - (Best Value) Pick #2 Detroit WR Calvin Johnson...#22 Cleveland QB Brady Quinn

(Worst Value) Pick #9 Miami WR Ted Ginn Jr
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2007draft.html

Most teams had Ginn going at 19 to the Titans. So, although the SI article didn't say it, no one expected Ginn to go in the top 10.


Donte Whitner:
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/Noobaramarama
19th to San Diego

http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2006/mockdraft.shtml
31 to Seattle

http://www.askthecommish.com/2006nfldraft/
23 to Tampa

http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2006mockdraft.htm
19 to San Diego


I figured Bills fans would know a little something about not caring what the experts say...

[Mitchy moo]

Bling, Miami has a huge hole and there is a franchise QB standing there to fill it and they don't jump at the chance, it's crazy. Unless they are waiting for the gators QB this year and plan on taking him with their 1st pick, which at this point is looking like the 1st pick in the draft.

I just find it odd that there is a time to react and your own fans are anticipating the obvious and you go completely out to left field. Quinn falling to you was a dream, you had your shot and time will tell if it was a bad call. I can tell you right now that Ginn will come to help you, as soon as you get someone to pass him the rock.

[FlyingDutchman]

Im still not over the Bills passing on Mckinnie for fat Mike out of the league soon Williams

[feelthepain]

Bling, Miami has a huge hole and there is a franchise QB standing there to fill it and they don't jump at the chance, it's crazy. Unless they are waiting for the gators QB this year and plan on taking him with their 1st pick, which at this point is looking like the 1st pick in the draft.

I just find it odd that there is a time to react and your own fans are anticipating the obvious and you go completely out to left field. Quinn falling to you was a dream, you had your shot and time will tell if it was a bad call. I can tell you right now that Ginn will come to help you, as soon as you get someone to pass him the rock.

Franchise QB? Maybe you can explain why at least 5 teams in the yop 10 who could use a "franchise QB", passed on him when he was sitting there to be had on their boards? And you can forget the excuse none of them needed a QB as badly as Miami, cause every one of them need a QB. It would be nice if you actually knew what you were talking about, but to claim Brady is a franchise QB without ever taking a snap in the NFL just goes to show you know nothing about football. We drafted John Beck and our coaching staff and scouts had John rated very high, there also seems to be quite a buzz around NFL circles that they beieve John could be a successful NFL QB! Unlike you and your crystal ball, they take a wait and see stance on future players.

[casdhf]

Donte Whitner:
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/Noobaramarama
19th to San Diego

http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2006/mockdraft.shtml
31 to Seattle

http://www.askthecommish.com/2006nfldraft/
23 to Tampa

http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2006mockdraft.htm
19 to San Diego


I figured Bills fans would know a little something about not caring what the experts say... Doubtful ... this place went ape **** when Whitner was picked. I'm sure your site was the same.

[Jan Reimers]

I love it when the actual professional football evaluators take players with high picks that are not media "darlings," and then the writers run around in shock that their self-created favorites didn't get drafted as highly as they thought.

[Mitchy moo]

Franchise QB? Maybe you can explain why at least 5 teams in the yop 10 who could use a "franchise QB", passed on him when he was sitting there to be had on their boards? And you can forget the excuse none of them needed a QB as badly as Miami, cause every one of them need a QB. It would be nice if you actually knew what you were talking about, but to claim Brady is a franchise QB without ever taking a snap in the NFL just goes to show you know nothing about football. We drafted John Beck and our coaching staff and scouts had John rated very high, there also seems to be quite a buzz around NFL circles that they beieve John could be a successful NFL QB! Unlike you and your crystal ball, they take a wait and see stance on future players.

I can see you have an immobile QB in Green & no line to protect him. Ask culpepper how the O-line helped him last season.

[North_Coast]

Franchise QB? Maybe you can explain why at least 5 teams in the yop 10 who could use a "franchise QB", passed on him when he was sitting there to be had on their boards? And you can forget the excuse none of them needed a QB as badly as Miami, cause every one of them need a QB. It would be nice if you actually knew what you were talking about, but to claim Brady is a franchise QB without ever taking a snap in the NFL just goes to show you know nothing about football. We drafted John Beck and our coaching staff and scouts had John rated very high, there also seems to be quite a buzz around NFL circles that they beieve John could be a successful NFL QB! Unlike you and your crystal ball, they take a wait and see stance on future players.

There sure are a lot of posters on Carpheaven who claim that Beck is a "franchise QB" without him "ever taking a snap in the NFL" as well. In fact, because those two QB wizards in Finland, Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron, selected him, Beck must be better than Brady Quinn, even though every team that needed a franchise QB passed on Beck at least once.

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Donte Whitner:
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/Noobaramarama
19th to San Diego

http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2006/mockdraft.shtml
31 to Seattle

http://www.askthecommish.com/2006nfldraft/
23 to Tampa

http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2006mockdraft.htm
19 to San Diego


I figured Bills fans would know a little something about not caring what the experts say...

I think you missed my point. feelthepain had said that it was a huge surprise that Whitner was taken in the top 10 and that nobody said that about Ginn. I was showing that he was incorrect about Ginn, not about Whitner.

And yes, I agree with you, no one cares what the experts say.

[feelthepain]

I can see you have an immobile QB in Green & no line to protect him. Ask culpepper how the O-line helped him last season.

Oh I see, still looking at your crystal ball?! Our Offense was 20th overall last year and yours was 28th. Why don't ask JP what it felt like to be sacked 47 times last year with your pathetic Oline in front of him.

[feelthepain]

I think you missed my point. feelthepain had said that it was a huge surprise that Whitner was taken in the top 10 and that nobody said that about Ginn. I was showing that he was incorrect about Ginn, not about Whitner.

And yes, I agree with you, no one cares what the experts say.


Really? I said that?

[feelthepain]

There sure are a lot of posters on Carpheaven who claim that Beck is a "franchise QB" without him "ever taking a snap in the NFL" as well. In fact, because those two QB wizards in Finland, Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron, selected him, Beck must be better than Brady Quinn, even though every team that needed a franchise QB passed on Beck at least once.

No different then Bill fans here claiming Lynch is a beast and much better then Willis ever was before he even takes a snap in the NFL. Infact the Bills add Lynch and Dockery and suddenly theye've fixed the 28th ranked offense in the league.

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Notice it doesn't say "no one expected Ginn to be taken in the top 10" like it did later in the countdown for Whitner?

You pretty much implied that it was a huge surprise that Whitner was taken in the top 10, unless I misunderstood you. Certainly, it's not important though, the only thing that will matter is what happens from August until December (and hopefully some of January too).

[feelthepain]

You pretty much implied that it was a huge surprise that Whitner was taken in the top 10, unless I misunderstood you. Certainly, it's not important though, the only thing that will matter is what happens from August until December (and hopefully some of January too).

Nowhere does it imply "huge", I simply pointed out the fact that it doesn't say no on else expected Ginn to be taken in the top 10 because Bill fans seem to think no one else would have taken him inside the top 10, well according to reports, the Rams would have. Therefore obviously there was more interest in Ginn then Quinn, explains why Quinn fell to the early 20's.

[gr8slayer]

Nowhere does it imply "huge", I simply pointed out the fact that it doesn't say no on else expected Ginn to be taken in the top 10 because Bill fans seem to think no one else would have taken him inside the top 10, well according to reports, the Rams would have. Therefore obviously there was more interest in Ginn then Quinn, explains why Quinn fell to the early 20's.
I know someone personally who is in the coaching ranks with the Rams. Ginn was never even a consideration for them.