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Michael82
08-21-2002, 06:24 AM
Thats right guys....DE Darren Howard was available for our 1st round pick. He fell into the 2nd round. We reached for Flowers. Read this....
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/erikflowers.htm

Draft Projection: 3rd Round
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And look at Howard....
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/darrenhoward.htm

Draft Projection: 1st Round
casdhf
08-21-2002, 07:11 AM
Coulda woulda shoulda
Tatonka
08-21-2002, 08:14 AM
um.. who does howard play for now? it is not like the guy is a household name.
clumping platelets
08-21-2002, 08:28 AM
Saints and he's a solid DE


Hindsight is 20/20
SABURZFAN
08-21-2002, 09:44 AM
you sure know how to ruin a guy's day.
TedMock
08-21-2002, 09:50 AM
Howard is a very solid DE and I thought he was a houshold name.
BillsMan80
08-21-2002, 10:01 AM
Howard I believe had 11 sacks his rookie year compared to Flowers total of what, 1 or 2?
Drewpac
08-21-2002, 10:18 AM
That really pisses me off!!!
BillsMan80
08-21-2002, 10:20 AM
Well, thank the BUTTler.
Ebenezer
08-21-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by clumping platelets
Saints and he's a solid DE


Hindsight is 20/20

just remember clump...you predicted that the Bills would take Flowers.
SabreEleven
08-21-2002, 12:25 PM
But at least we never drafted Ryan Leaf. How many good players did San Diego pass up to get that nut job?
BigMike68
08-21-2002, 04:28 PM
Howard is definatly a household name hes a top 15 DE in the league too.
RedEyE
08-21-2002, 04:45 PM
First rule of thumb in any game: Never pick a guy named Flowers! That was the name of that damn clumbsy skunk in the Disney classic Bambi.
THATHURMANATOR
08-21-2002, 05:15 PM
I really wouldn't classify Howard as a household name at all.
Tatonka
08-21-2002, 05:21 PM
um.. maybe in your household his name comes up regularly.. i can place the guy somewhat since you told me he was on the saints.. but he is no probowler, and that would qualify to me as a household name.
THATHURMANATOR
08-21-2002, 05:29 PM
agreed Tatonka.
Butch
08-21-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Mike32282
Thats right guys....DE Darren Howard was available for our 1st round pick. He fell into the 2nd round. We reached for Flowers. Read this....
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/erikflowers.htm

Draft Projection: 3rd Round
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And look at Howard....
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/darrenhoward.htm

Draft Projection: 1st Round

I said that on draft day, Howard was a better player, he had the size and the college production to back it up. Flowers was all hype just because he put on 20 pounds leading up to the draft. Flowers didn't have a playing weight above 250 in college.
SoCalBillsFan
08-21-2002, 09:12 PM
Who cares if he qualifies as a "household name." The point is he's a solid DE, and we could have had him. He's a heck of a lot better than flowers, and that's what this discussion was about. We messed up.

What's done is done. I'm over it. Let's move on.
casdhf
08-21-2002, 09:20 PM
We coulda had Fred Taylor if we didnt trade for RJ
casdhf
08-21-2002, 09:26 PM
We coulda had La'Roi Glover if we didn't draft Ray Jackson

Boy would that have solved our DL problem
Tatonka
08-21-2002, 09:46 PM
i will edit this before i get in trouble..lol
casdhf
08-21-2002, 10:06 PM
why can't ya now?
Novacane
08-21-2002, 10:24 PM
Oh brother.
The_Philster
08-22-2002, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by casdhf
We coulda had Fred Taylor if we didnt trade for RJ

RB wasn't a concern back then. We had Antowain Smith coming off a solid rookie season. Unfortunately, his Buffalo career was ruined by Joe Pendry and Bishop Harris.
northernbillfan
08-22-2002, 03:42 AM
Antowain didn't do much to convince me he was going to be our back for his first few years here, that's why we got rid of him

We can't dwell on the past too much.

We have a new season starting in a couple of very short weeks. Let's focus on that.
TigerJ
08-22-2002, 11:29 PM
A little bit of history: In the 2000 draft, Buffalo was eager to find a pass rushing defensive end. The scouting report on Darren Howard was that he was a big productive DE in college. The negative was that he had a slow time in the 40 for a DE, in the vicinity of 4.95. I think Butler and the scouting staff were scared off by that 40 yard time, and without a proven college DE on the board with the measurables they were looking for they gambled on Flowers who was essentially a bulked up LB with had a real good 40 time (4.6 or so). Butler fell into the oldest trap in drafting. He went for the measurables instead of the proven college production.