WOW, talk about No Fun League!

[X-Era]

Odell Thruman is canned for another whole year
Mike Vick told stay away
Pacman told stay away

Too far by the league?

Denying livelihood? based on unproven allegations?

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?

I honestly think he did it, but its IS unproven, how can you ruin him for the year based on allegations

[gr8slayer]

Odell Thruman is canned for another whole year
Mike Vick told stay away
Pacman told stay away

Too far by the league?

Denying livelihood? based on unproven allegations?

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?

I honestly think he did it, but its IS unproven, how can you ruin him for the year based on allegations
It's not their right to play in the NFL it's a privilege, they need to know that they aren't bigger than the shield.

[YardRat]

I just saw the hoodlum on a snippet on the sports, yakking into the microphone "It don't matter what I go through, people are still going to love me."

**** him. Guilty or not, the NFL will be a better place without him. The most over-rated player.....Ever.

[gr8slayer]

I just saw the hoodlum on a snippet on the sports, yakking into the microphone "It don't matter what I go through, people are still going to love me."

**** him. Guilty or not, the NFL will be a better place without him. The most over-rated player.....Ever.
Don't tell Coach Sal that Vick is over-rated.

[BleedinGreenNC]

I for one am glad that someone is stepping up and handling what needs to be done!!

They were involved in shady stuff, i commend Goodell for doing what he is doing. To each his own.

[RockStar36]

They aren't going to far on this. Maybe on touchdown celebrations, but not on crimes. I know for a fact that if I was at any of my previous jobs or my current job and was in trouble for something similar to Vick they would probably let me go or suspend me from work. It's embarassing to the NFL that one of the biggest stars is a criminal.

[Carlton Bailey]

"No Fun League" isn't the right moniker when the league is stopping these scumbags from playing. If you want to use "No Fun League" when it stops a guy from doing a TD dance, fine, but not for making a guy sit out until we find out if he was MURDERING dogs.

[casdhf]

They aren't going far enough. These players are in the national spotlight making millions of dollars. If they can't stay obey the law, they should face consequences. It's not their right to get paid $5 million a season to register 3 sacks. If they want to keep getting paid like professionals, they should be held to a professional standard.

[MikeInRoch]

Don't tell Coach Sal that Vick is over-rated.

Coach Sal is a dog lover. Vick is dead to him.

[Dr. Lecter]

If being involved in dog fighting, dog killing and casino brawls that kill people is your idea of fun, then the NFL is the No Fun League.

Otherwise, they are reacting appropriately.

[SABURZFAN]

Odell Thruman is canned for another whole year
Mike Vick told stay away
Pacman told stay away

Too far by the league?

Denying livelihood? based on unproven allegations?

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?

I honestly think he did it, but its IS unproven, how can you ruin him for the year based on allegations



how many times has an NFL player been involved with the law under bad circumstances in the last 5 years?200 times???300 times???? :idunno:

it's about time we have somebody step up and make these people accountable for their own actions and not think they're above the law because they're a bunch of overpaid athletes.

[ddaryl]

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?



Vick is already guilt simply based upon the fact that he owned the property.

If you rent or own a property and someone is cooking meth there you're liable... Vick owned the property, and there is already plenty enough proof that there was dog fighting happening there.

However going beyond the obvious... Pro sports players have gone to far and the whip simply must be cracked.

[User Manuel]

Odell Thruman is canned for another whole year
Mike Vick told stay away
Pacman told stay away

Too far by the league?

Denying livelihood? based on unproven allegations?

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?

I honestly think he did it, but its IS unproven, how can you ruin him for the year based on allegations

Vick may be found not guilty... you don't get indicted like this if your innocent.

There is a big difference in our legal system between innocent and not guilty.

OJ Simpson was "not guilty", but he is a "murderer".

Let's say Vick wasn't there, owned this property, went there all the time, but didn't notice the large scale dog fighting organization. Accidently built the fence to hide the dog fighting and training facility, paid cash for Pitt Bulls that turned up dead later. Maybe, just maybe, the live scarred and dead dogs were "planted" by the federal government AFTER they took the case from the state.

Then he is guilty of being a total idiot for not taking care of his business.

Plus, just to be fair. 1) He is still being paid 2) If he is acquitted then he gets to file a grievance and could possibly get all of his back pay + bonuses he couldn't earn.

Let's stop the pity party before it starts.

[Confused]

As much as I love your sig's bouncing Teets, I must disagree

[camelcowboy]

the players own union approved the conduct policy, so they have no right to complain. They received they're big contracts but in the process gave goodell a nice big stick to whip people with. I don't see any NFL players rushing to the defense of any of these morons. If you make millions and still put yourself in the position to be in trouble with the law. Then they deserve any punishment issued. Its not always a question of guilt or innocents, most players know not to put themselves in certain situations. These guys just wont take the hint. and as far as vick i hope he never plays another snap in the NFL.

[X-Era]

how many times has an NFL player been involved with the law under bad circumstances in the last 5 years?200 times???300 times???? :idunno:

it's about time we have somebody step up and make these people accountable for their own actions and not think they're above the law because they're a bunch of overpaid athletes.

You guys are talking apples, Im talking oranges.

I want Vick to give back every damn dime he every made in the NFL if hes guilty. I hate the sum-b for this crap.

But, hes being kept away from training camp BEFORE he has even had his trial. It is nothing more than allegations at this point.

The question is only if the NFL is pushing it too far with their quick actions against players based only on allegations. Thats it, the whole deal.

If guilty, fry his ass I dont care. Im sick and tired of these players running around taking their blessing from god and abusing it. Hell yeah its nice that Goodell is acting with a hammer. BUT, are his responses too fast, with too little information?

The Vick move is appropriate in my mind. ONLY because it brings a negative attention on the team and can make their practices a media circus making it difficult for them to do their business. But, if Goodell is telling him to stay away only because he thinks Vick is a criminal, I think thats wrong AT THIS POINT.

This isnt Iraq, we have due process.

[X-Era]

Vick is already guilt simply based upon the fact that he owned the property.

If you rent or own a property and someone is cooking meth there you're liable... Vick owned the property, and there is already plenty enough proof that there was dog fighting happening there.

However going beyond the obvious... Pro sports players have gone to far and the whip simply must be cracked.

THAT I agree with. I dont care whether he was ever there or not. I guarantee that he knew dog fighting was going on at his property and he didnt stop it. Thats enough for me.

Again the question is about due process, not whether he should hang if guilty.

Is the NFL forcing Vick to prove innocence rather than guilt? That aint the way our country works.

[LtFinFan66]

Odell Thruman is canned for another whole year
Mike Vick told stay away
Pacman told stay away

Too far by the league?

Denying livelihood? based on unproven allegations?

What if Vick is innocent? he lost training camp and beyond when he didnt do it?

I honestly think he did it, but its IS unproven, how can you ruin him for the year based on allegationsAnd this has what to do with no fun:idunno:

Would you feel better if it was changed to the NCL(No Criminal League)??

[ddaryl]

THAT I agree with. I dont care whether he was ever there or not. I guarantee that he knew dog fighting was going on at his property and he didnt stop it. Thats enough for me.

Again the question is about due process, not whether he should hang if guilty.

Is the NFL forcing Vick to prove innocence rather than guilt? That aint the way our country works.

1st Vick hasn't been suspended, he is being paid.

the NFL is more concerned with its image, and keeping from the huge groups of protesters and negative news that will follow suit from destroying the season.

Cops and government officials get paid leave in similiar situation...

[LtFinFan66]

And Vick is still being paid so what money exactly is he losing?? His dog fighting winnings??

[MikeInRoch]

The NFL has the right to suspend anyone purely based on the image they give the league. Due process is not relevant.

[ParanoidAndroid]

There is no inherent right to habeus corpus in the NFL and there doesn't have to be. He has a right to a fair trial as a US citizen, but being an NFL player has nothing to do with that. These are more than just allegations. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming and just because it hasn't been presented in a court of law does not mean Goodell has to wait.

[madness]

Even if Vick is proclaimed innocent it means nothing in today's world. The guilty usually end up innocent and even the innocent end up guilty. Even more so in the world of money and power.

A man's character determines everything. This isn't the first time he had a run in with the law and it probably won't be the last.

"Personality is what you do when everybody is looking, and character is what you do when no one is looking." ~Marv

[madness]

And this has what to do with no fun:idunno:

Would you feel better if it was changed to the NCL(No Criminal League)??

:goodpost: