Why are some people on here...

[ublinkwescore]

so quick to criticize Ellison - I went back and watched a bunch (VS. Houston, Jville, Miami at home and NY Jets on the road) of the Billszone highlight vids made by JJamez - and the games he played in, he had a tendency to make a lot of plays, be around the ball a lot, along with finishing off tackles when other players who made first contact may not have stopped the ball carrier - so what if he is "undersized" look at Zach Thomas - hate him as much as I do, the guy was a good LBer in his day - though he isn't what he used to be now.

Honestly, I would not be nervous if he ended up starting.

If he were to sit bench, that means our depth at LB is better than what some people are whining about.

[more cowbell]

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As i've been saying all off-season. Whenever Ellison played for Spikes last year, which was a lot, there was absolutely no drop off at all.

[Philagape]

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I thought he did very well for a rookie. I'm content with him starting

[Tatonka]

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i have no problem with ellison either.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

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Cuz he ain't no london fletcher-baker-candlestick maker and he isn't named TKO and I have a vested interest in those two because I owned their jerseys and I don't like Marv because he got rid of McNugget and and I am of below average intelligence. Seriously, last year LB was the most competent part of our D and I expect that to carry over into this year.

[BuffaloBillsStampede]

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I am really convinced Ellison is going to be very solid. He is a lot faster than people think. He flys to the ball all the time. He just is really solid overall.

[Devin]

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Some people have been saying ellison will be a solid starter since last season.

Others dont like him because he was a 6th rounder.

[SABURZFAN]

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so quick to criticize Ellison - I went back and watched a bunch (VS. Houston, Jville, Miami at home and NY Jets on the road) of the Billszone highlight vids made by JJamez - and the games he played in, he had a tendency to make a lot of plays, be around the ball a lot, along with finishing off tackles when other players who made first contact may not have stopped the ball carrier - so what if he is "undersized" look at Zach Thomas - hate him as much as I do, the guy was a good LBer in his day - though he isn't what he used to be now.

Honestly, I would not be nervous if he ended up starting.

If he were to sit bench, that means our depth at LB is better than what some people are whining about.

calm down Husky.let's not overreact.go get you an 18 inch sandwich or something.ellison will be fine.

[Wys Guy]

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so quick to criticize Ellison - I went back and watched a bunch (VS. Houston, Jville, Miami at home and NY Jets on the road) of the Billszone highlight vids made by JJamez - and the games he played in, he had a tendency to make a lot of plays, be around the ball a lot, along with finishing off tackles when other players who made first contact may not have stopped the ball carrier - so what if he is "undersized" look at Zach Thomas - hate him as much as I do, the guy was a good LBer in his day - though he isn't what he used to be now.

Honestly, I would not be nervous if he ended up starting.

If he were to sit bench, that means our depth at LB is better than what some people are whining about.

Yeah, and Miami, Houston, and Jax had such tremendous showings in the playoffs too.

Nevertheless, the Jets game in which you said he made a lot of plays in if I read the above correctly, and as the only decently balanced offensive team that the Bills played that Ellison logged any significant stats in. So let's take a look at what kind of an impact he made via his tackles.

1st: Assisted tackle w/ Spikes, Cedric Houston on a gain of 5
2nd: Assisted w/ Wire on a Houston gain of 7
3rd: Miller 33 yard KO Return
4th: Pennington 4-yard scramble
5th: Assisted with Fletcher, Houston for 6 yards
6th: Assisted with Anderson, Houston for no gain
7th: Leon Washington, 4 yard pass play
8th: Assisted w/ Youboty, TE Baker on a 10 yard pass play
9th: 4 yard pass play to Washington

Sometimes perceptions lag reality. Nevertheless, what is it about that play that suggests that Ellison is anything other than a LB worthy of concern?

After the 33 yard KO return, his involvement in tackles allowed an average of 5.0 yards per play. For a member of the secondary that might work, but not for a member of the front 7. There isn't one play for a loss in there.

[SABURZFAN]

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Yeah, and Miami, Houston, and Jax had such tremendous showings in the playoffs too.

Nevertheless, the Jets game in which you said he made a lot of plays in if I read the above correctly, and as the only decently balanced offensive team that the Bills played that Ellison logged any significant stats in. So let's take a look at what kind of an impact he made via his tackles.

1st: Assisted tackle w/ Spikes, Cedric Houston on a gain of 5
2nd: Assisted w/ Wire on a Houston gain of 7
3rd: Miller 33 yard KO Return
4th: Pennington 4-yard scramble
5th: Assisted with Fletcher, Houston for 6 yards
6th: Assisted with Anderson, Houston for no gain
7th: Leon Washington, 4 yard pass play
8th: Assisted w/ Youboty, TE Baker on a 10 yard pass play
9th: 4 yard pass play to Washington

Sometimes perceptions lag reality. Nevertheless, what is it about that play that suggests that Ellison is anything other than a LB worthy of concern?

After the 33 yard KO return, his involvement in tackles allowed an average of 5.0 yards per play. For a member of the secondary that might work, but not for a member of the front 7. There isn't one play for a loss in there.

which play do we take out to make him look worse?

[SquishDaFish]

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[Mahdi]

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If Poz starts in the middle would DiGorgio then battle for OLB with Ellison or would he just be a backup? Cause the way their talking about DiGio seems like hes starting fer sure.

[ublinkwescore]

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If Poz starts in the middle would DiGorgio then battle for OLB with Ellison or would he just be a backup? Cause the way their talking about DiGio seems like hes starting fer sure.

Which would be a good thing.

Especially since we would have great depth in Ellison should DiG go down - provided Ellison would end up being #2 on the depth chart on DiG's side.

[ublinkwescore]

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Where the hell is Op at with his lame @$$ *****ery about how he only started because we were that weak on D?

I'm sorry, but playmakers make plays regardless - and Ellison made plays - I can see him winding up as a fulltime starter some time in the next two seasons - hopefully because he plays his way onto the field, not through injury.

[G. Host]

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Some people have been saying ellison will be a solid starter since last season.

Others dont like him because he was a 6th rounder.

Fletcher was a UDFA for Rams and did pretty well. I'd like to hear Mikey's report and see how much a year of professional development has done for him.

My biggest concern is not one LB but the set - we do not appear to have a set suitable for 3rd/4th and short situations - some times having the mass makes all of the difference but perhaps in those situations they will put 5 linemen in there and have one or two stand up. Denney has the speed to cover as a LB in the short range area.