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USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Don't agree with them all and unless they are talking about record books. Jimbo was a better QB than Marino; Marino got the stats but Jimbo got the job done.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Tom Brady at 9!!!! I mean I don't want to take anything away from the kid. He scares the crap out of me every time the Bills have to play him but #9!!! WTF!!!
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Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
And not that I think the guy is a great person or anything, but no matter what he did OJ deserves to be on that list in the Top 10. I wish we could some how explain to people what he did on the football field has nothing to do with what he did 20 years later. Had he not been such a waste of skin 20 years later he would have been in the top 10 of that list.
Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.
- Frank Dane
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."
-Thomas Jefferson
The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
- Mark Twain
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
There is no f-in way brady should be in the top 10. Top 25 yes but not the top 10. Why is bradshaw so low and brady so high. Oh wait he is the golden boy of the nfl and he would not of been in the top 10 he would of cried to the nfl.
And deion sanders what the hell. What cause he had some good seasons he didn't change the game. Except for running his mouth. Well he was a great tackler if you count pushing someone out of bounds tackling. This list is crap.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Originally posted by G. Host
Don't agree with them all and unless they are talking about record books. Jimbo was a better QB than Marino; Marino got the stats but Jimbo got the job done.
Ummmm, NO! Jim Kelley was a great QB, but he wasn't in Marinos area code. Marino played 7 more years, threw for almost twice as many yards, Kelly never once threw for 4000 yards in a season. Marino threw for 4000+ yards 6 times. This isn't a knock on Kelly by any means, it's just they were asked to do different things. Based on their stats Marino is head a shoulders ahead of Kelly.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Dickerson and no Thurman? What a joke. Not being a biased Bills fan here, but that's just not right. I could understand if Eric was NOT on the list, then TT wouldn't be either. But since he IS on the list, that opens up a huge can of worms IMO.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Originally posted by Voltron
And not that I think the guy is a great person or anything, but no matter what he did OJ deserves to be on that list in the Top 10. I wish we could some how explain to people what he did on the football field has nothing to do with what he did 20 years later. Had he not been such a waste of skin 20 years later he would have been in the top 10 of that list.
I might agree with you, but OJ wasn't playing within the last 25 years.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Originally posted by duhbilz
Ummmm, NO! Jim Kelley was a great QB, but he wasn't in Marinos area code. Marino played 7 more years, threw for almost twice as many yards, Kelly never once threw for 4000 yards in a season. Marino threw for 4000+ yards 6 times. This isn't a knock on Kelly by any means, it's just they were asked to do different things. Based on their stats Marino is head a shoulders ahead of Kelly.
Marino was great at throwing the ball but that is it. He was a poor leader on the field and was not very good at faking it to RBs getting his running backs killed. Duration isn't everything.
Oh and Kellly played additional years in USFL like some other great players like Young and White so he did not play 7 "additional" years
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Originally posted by duhbilz
Brady ahead of Marino??? I don't think so.
Absolutely Brady should be ahead of him.
My biggest disappointment is that Aikman made the list. He's one of the most over-rated QBs of all time.
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Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Yikes..... Kelly better than Marino? Thats a hefty hefty statement. Kelly was a better leader but you can't wear blinders when talking about Marino as a QB.
I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
Re: USA Today's Top 25 NFL players of the past 25 years
Originally posted by MikeInRoch
Absolutely Brady should be ahead of him.
My biggest disappointment is that Aikman made the list. He's one of the most over-rated QBs of all time.
Agreed!
I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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