Will we regret cutting all pro LS Mike Schneck?

[The Answer]

In 2003/2004 Lindell had a 77% PCT

In 2005/2006 Lindell had a 88% PCT

Why an 11% increase - All Pro Long Snapper Mike Schneck - and even Lindell gave credit to him for his improved kicking.

As much as The Answer hates to admit it - this decision very well may come back to haunt the Bills later this season and effect our ST overall.

Neill has already cost the bills a field goal with a high snap in preseason and this is something we need to be concerned about as a whole.

~The Answer

[patmoran2006]

Unless Neil is going to play some DE as well, I dont get the move either.

WHy fix something that wasn't broke?

[The Jokeman]

In 2003/2004 Lindell had a 77% PCT

In 2005/2006 Lindell had a 88% PCT

Why an 11% increase - All Pro Long Snapper Mike Schneck - and even Lindell gave credit to him for his improved kicking.

As much as The Answer hates to admit it - this decision very well may come back to haunt the Bills later this season and effect our ST overall.

Neill has already cost the bills a field goal with a high snap in preseason and this is something we need to be concerned about as a whole.

~The Answer
I wouldn't be surprised if we re-sign Schneck in 4 weeks when we can active Hargrove. To make room I could see us cutting Neil and George Wilson.

[The Answer]

I wouldn't be surprised if we re-sign Schneck in 4 weeks when we can active Hargrove. To make room I could see us cutting Neil and George Wilson.

We might not have a chance to get the all pro LS back - a player of his calibur will most certainly be signed by another team any day now.

~The Answer

[justasportsfan]

SChneck will definitely be missed more than Holcomb. He's more valuable than Holcomb. Hell , even Bennie Anderson will be missed more than Holcomb.

[The Jokeman]

I wouldn't be surprised if we re-sign Schneck in 4 weeks when we can active Hargrove. To make room I could see us cutting Neil and George Wilson.
Unless we let him know of our plan prior to cutting him.

[Goobylal]

Just watched the missed 48-yarder by Lindell against the Titans. The snap by Neill was a little high, but the holder got it down in time and Lindell just missed it.

And in today's NFL, a long-snapping specialist is a luxury, especially in light of the injuries the Bills have already suffered. I'm sure they consulted Bobby April before they made their decision.

So in short, The Answer is...we'll see.

[OpIv37]

seriously, the long snapper's job is to hike the ball 7 yards. We've got a team full of guys who have been playing football their entire lives. One of them has to be able to do that.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

:monkeyp:
In 2003/2004 Lindell had a 77% PCT

In 2005/2006 Lindell had a 88% PCT

Why an 11% increase - All Pro Long Snapper Mike Schneck - and even Lindell gave credit to him for his improved kicking.

As much as The Answer hates to admit it - this decision very well may come back to haunt the Bills later this season and effect our ST overall.

Neill has already cost the bills a field goal with a high snap in preseason and this is something we need to be concerned about as a whole.

~The Answer

[BAM]

Can he really have made that much of a difference? Seems more like a coincidence to me than his hiking skills. I actually kind of agree with the coaches on this one. Having a long snapper take up a spot on the roster seems a bit ridiculous to me. Neill can play DE why not?

[83evans]

:monkeyp:

In 2003/2004 Lindell had a 77% PCT

In 2005/2006 Lindell had a 88% PCT

Why an 11% increase - All Pro Long Snapper Mike Schneck - and even Lindell gave credit to him for his improved kicking.

As much as The Answer hates to admit it - this decision very well may come back to haunt the Bills later this season and effect our ST overall.

Neill has already cost the bills a field goal with a high snap in preseason and this is something we need to be concerned about as a whole.

~The Answer


I understand if that we got rid of Schnek. LS arnt that important. How often do you see a blown snap? NOT OFTEN. Holders are the one who usually screw up. For the name THE ANSWER. You sure make alot of dumb responces and threads. Also Schnek was a waste of money.

[Oaf]

I think you actually may be on to something there.

In the article about Jefferson playing DE, Dick says their keeping Neil focused on longsnapping rather than playing DE.
So then, if he isn't even going to play ahead of a flipping DT, why keep him over a all-pro LS?

[Michael82]

Yes. :ill:

[B-DON]

Could it be the coaches actually thought neil was better than schneck? Nah, to easy of an answer for around these boards.

[gil]

seriously, the long snapper's job is to hike the ball 7 yards. We've got a team full of guys who have been playing football their entire lives. One of them has to be able to do that.

why take the troll's bait, but in any case - I worry about a missed snap too, but with all else that we have to worry about, this ranks pretty damn low on the list.

[SABURZFAN]

SChneck will definitely be missed more than Holcomb. He's more valuable than Holcomb. Hell , even Bennie Anderson will be missed more than Holcomb.



nobody mentioned The Holcombnator.stay on the topic and quit trolling it up. :shakeno:

[CuseJetsFan83]

i understand the move to save a roster spot, but im telling ya if mr. moorman's punts go down, i'd expect to see a change immediately, or do ya think buffalo would wait all season?

[mysticsoto]

In 2003/2004 Lindell had a 77% PCT

In 2005/2006 Lindell had a 88% PCT

Why an 11% increase - All Pro Long Snapper Mike Schneck - and even Lindell gave credit to him for his improved kicking.

As much as The Answer hates to admit it - this decision very well may come back to haunt the Bills later this season and effect our ST overall.

Neill has already cost the bills a field goal with a high snap in preseason and this is something we need to be concerned about as a whole.

~The Answer

There was an increase a) b'cse Lindell got over his injury (shoulder or back ?) that was affecting him, and b) b'cse he practiced hard.

To think that Schneck can never be replaced is ridiculous. We have many glaring holes on this team, and having a roster spot taken on just one position is utterly ridiculous. I'm glad Marv made the move and is having someone who could contribute elsewhere on the team. I know he is strictly focused on long snapping right now, but in a pinch, he can help us alot more than Schneck could.

[BlackMetalNinja]

While I question the move a bit myself, unless it's merely to get more use out of a single roster spot... Why does everybody keep touting him as a Pro Bowl Long Snapper or an All Pro Long Snapper...

Yes, he went to the Pro Bowl, but only because Moorman was chosen and got to bring him along for the ride. It's not like he was voted best Long Snapper in the league or something.

[RockStar36]

Honestly, I'll give The Answer credit on this. The move could come back and hurt the Bills. Although I'll have to trust the coaching staff for now that they know what they are doing and both Moorman and Lindell are ok with the move. I would think the coaches would have consulted both of them since the move directly affects them both.

[DaBillzAhDaShiznit]

Can anyone name the long snappers from the last 5 superbowl teams? Very likely not without some research. They are important, but a relatively low priority.
We won't miss Schneck.

Now, I could be wrong, but does the Pro Bowl punter automatically have the option to bring his long snapper along, thus the reason for Schneck's Pro Bowl appearance?

[Ickybaluky]

And in today's NFL, a long-snapping specialist is a luxury, especially in light of the injuries the Bills have already suffered. I'm sure they consulted Bobby April before they made their decision.

Luxury? Pretty much every team in the NFL carries a LS specialist.

The problem with not having a long-snapper is it only takes one bad snap to cost you a game. It is a lot harder skill to master than you think.

Also, most NFL teams don't want their LS playing very many regular downs. They dont' want him to get knocked loopy on a play and be unavailable to snap.

That doesn't mean the Bills made a mistake, because Neil may be a very good LS specialist. I fact, he probably made the team just based on his snapping, and not because of any help he can provide at another position.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Now, I could be wrong, but does the Pro Bowl punter automatically have the option to bring his long snapper along, thus the reason for Schneck's Pro Bowl appearance?

yes, that's exactly the point of the post that I made.

[Michael82]

The thing that bothers me most about this move is the rumor that they plan on using Neill ONLY for LS. They don't even want him to practice DE right now. if that's the case, why keep him when you could have a damn good solid long snapper in Schneck? :scratch:

[mysticsoto]

The thing that bothers me most about this move is the rumor that they plan on using Neill ONLY for LS. They don't even want him to practice DE right now. if that's the case, why keep him when you could have a damn good solid long snapper in Schneck? :scratch:

Perhaps it's just temporary to ensure he gets long snapping down solid...

[Michael82]

Perhaps it's just temporary to ensure he gets long snapping down solid...
I hope so. If not, I hate this move! Consider the fact that he already cost Lindell to miss one field goal in the preseason due to a bad snap. I also await to see how Moorman handles him. If either of the kickers have problems gelling with him, I want this mistake to be stopped and Schneck to come back as the LS.

[B-DON]

I hope so. If not, I hate this move! Consider the fact that he already cost Lindell to miss one field goal in the preseason due to a bad snap. I also await to see how Moorman handles him. If either of the kickers have problems gelling with him, I want this mistake to be stopped and Schneck to come back as the LS.


Why cant anyone just accept the fact that our coaching staff thought one guy was better than the other. Why does it always have to have some conspiracy theory behind it.

[Goobylal]

Luxury? Pretty much every team in the NFL carries a LS specialist.
Many other teams' LS's can play in a pinch. Schneck couldn't.


The problem with not having a long-snapper is it only takes one bad snap to cost you a game. It is a lot harder skill to master than you think.

Also, most NFL teams don't want their LS playing very many regular downs. They dont' want him to get knocked loopy on a play and be unavailable to snap.

That doesn't mean the Bills made a mistake, because Neil may be a very good LS specialist. I fact, he probably made the team just based on his snapping, and not because of any help he can provide at another position.
The Bills may have felt that Neill was just as good as Schneck, but his ability to play DE in an emergency is what got him the job. And they've said that they'll let him concentrate on LS'ing, but if an injury occurred, they'd feel better about inserting him into a game than Schneck.