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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Den wins.. My thoughts

    This is hard. Im sick to my stomach right now.

    First, the good.
    * Lynch is the real ****ing deal. HE doesn't like to go down. That TD run was awesome. He's going to be a STAR in this league and I wouldn't be shocked now to see him win ROY.

    * Special teams.. What more can you say about them? Unbelievable.

    * I thought Josh Reed played great today. The OL looked decent, especially in pass protection. Peters was great. Didnt hear his name much, so that means Walker played decent.

    * Poz was confused and outta place at times, but played pretty well for a rookie playing his first game.

    * I think both DE's played pretty good.

    NOW.. The bad

    * The coaching was horrible, and I truly think this staff sucks. 3:32 left on the clock and you get the ball with a two point lead. On second down, you run a ****ing sweep to the SHORT side of the field which Lynch ended up forced out. And then you come back with a bomb on 3rd and 5?? JESUS christ, even if the corner falls down by accident its STILL not a high % play. That was the play of the game right there. I truly think Jauron sucks and although it wont happen, he needs to get fired.. Being a nice guy the players respect dont mean **** if your a brutal game day coach, and make no mistake about it......he is.

    * I dont care what your stance on Losman was before or after the game. Today he flat out sucked and looked like a lost rookie. Digression with a capital D. Another foolish INT before halftime.. He almost trips over his own feet handing the ball off to A-Train. Left short a few throws to open WR's, especially a third down throw to Parrish who was wide open... And what the ****, was Kelly Holcomb still playing? What the **** is up with these short passes on 3rd and long again????????

    These two tie into together. It couldnt be anymore ****ing obvious that Jauron and/or Fairchild had NO CONFIDENCE in Losman. I mean (and it ended up working out) they resorted to running on 3rd and long plays in the second half. Probably half of Losman's attempts were 7 yards or less.. He's not that kind of QB and WTF, if thats the offense you're going to run, if your coaches are THAT scared of streching defenses, then you may as well put Edwards is, who is far better with short throwing accuracy.

    But blaming it on the coaching alone is the latest convienant Losman excuse. He ****ing flat-out SUCKED today, and he did absolutely nothing to help his team win the game. Even if we had held on and won, it would've been in spite of Losman, not because of him.

    * We debated all summer long about how bad our CB's were. I don't think there can be a debate anymore. If this is not the WORST set of starting corners in the NFL, I'd love to see them. They were used and abused all day long. Jason WEbster is a total joke--no wonder Atlanta drafted two CB's then cut him.. He's brutal. And you'd think after about a million successful slant passes our corners would start to cheat a little to take that play away. Of course not though, these corners just flat-out suck.

    * Our run defense played exactly the way we thought it would; pathetic. Henry had 139 and thank God they werent sitting on a lead and running more, he may have ended with 239.

    SUMMARY: There's the old saying.. "Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose." THat is precisely what happened today. We are a bad football team right now, and we found a way to lose. Good teams put others away when its 3rd and 23 in the final two minutes. Bad teams allow erractic QB's like Jay Cutler to get away with his mistakes. Bad teams allow offenses to convert two straight fourth downs. Bad teams dont put away the opposition when they have numerous chances.

    Argue it all you want, right now this is just a bad football team. However, except for a few painfully obvious sore spots (CB and today QB) the talent is fine. This is a bad football team right now for their horrible game day coaching as any player on the field.

    It's going to be a long season..... The BIlls dont have a winner mentality, and Im sorry, they dont have a QB with a winner mentality either. We will lose more than just a handful of close games where the consensus will be we should've won.

    I could already see this game filed away as a game after the season where Skooby says "we should've won".

    We should NOT have won today.. We didnt deserve to. When the best player on your offense is a rookie playing his first game, and your QB plays like that; you don't deserve to win.


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  • Kerr
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 6656

    #2
    Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

    Agree, Pat. However, although I haven't given up on JP yet, he really laid an egg today. I can't think of a more frustrating opening day bills game i've seen than this one.

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    • Nighthawk
      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
      • Jul 2002
      • 15437

      #3
      Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

      I agree with some of your point and in particular, I agree that this coaching staff is horrible. Can somebody please tell me what the gameplan was today???

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      • DynaPaul
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 7540

        #4
        Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

        Why couldn't we have just lost the game in the 3rd quarter rather than the last 3 seconds?

        Why does this team always do this? They drag you on all game like they're gonna hang on and then break your heart. The end of this game was almost as painful as Wide Right and the Homerun Throwback.

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        • patmoran2006
          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
          • Dec 2005
          • 19840

          #5
          Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

          Originally posted by Kerr
          Agree, Pat. However, although I haven't given up on JP yet, he really laid an egg today. I can't think of a more frustrating opening day bills game i've seen than this one.
          Didnt say we should give up on JP yet. The only people who actually seemed to give up on JP were the coaching staff with that brutal pass play calling for 55 minutes.


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          • PECKERWOOD
            Defies all logic
            • Oct 2006
            • 13170

            #6
            Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

            Originally posted by Nighthawk
            I agree with some of your point and in particular, I agree that this coaching staff is horrible. Can somebody please tell me what the gameplan was today???
            Our gameplan was for our offense to not score any points. If it weren't for Marshawn Lynch that game plan would have been successful gosh darn it.

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            • Scumbag College
              Registered User
              • Oct 2002
              • 4949

              #7
              Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

              Unfortunately I agree, especially the last part about being a long season and not having a winner mentality. Looking at the stats and if you take away Parrish's punt return and the usually dependable Elam missing two FGs, the Bills got their asses handed to them. A good team would have found a way...a way to get a first down with two minutes left, a way to stop Denver on third and 23, etc.

              This is not a good team, and like Clubber Lang, I predict pain.
              Remember Kevin Everett in your thoughts.

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              • Crisis
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 12738

                #8
                Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                Originally posted by Kerr
                Agree, Pat. However, although I haven't given up on JP yet, he really laid an egg today. I can't think of a more frustrating opening day bills game i've seen than this one.
                Jacksonville is definitely up there.

                4th and 26?
                Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                Vanek is Austrian not European
                Originally posted by Prov401
                Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
                Originally posted by better days
                I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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                • historypete
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 520

                  #9
                  Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                  I'm not willing to throw in the towel on JP yet either. But Pat is right, he flat out sucked today, but the play-calling was atrocious also and that plays a small part I think.

                  I'm afraid that if they put in Edwards and he falls on his face (most likely because he is a rookie) then people will say he is a bust without giving him any time to develop. I wouldn't start Edwards until the 12th week, and that is only if JP has completely fallen on his face. I know people will say he's been in the league 4 years, but I still think he is developing and needs game experience. With that said it is not an open-ended commitment in my mind. I think 12 weeks is a good enough gauge before switching to Edwards.

                  By the way, I just really wish they would throw out that WR screen play. It is completely useless, and they always find themselves in 2nd or 3rd and long afterwards

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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                    Typical Fairchild O.C. ego massaging.

                    Overly conservative when we shouldn't be, then try to cute when its time to put the other team away.


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                    • Historian
                      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 61956

                      #11
                      Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                      Frankly, I'm tired of the whole thing.

                      And I'm especially tired of the culture of losing that Wilson has established here.

                      Bills fans deserve better.

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                      • patmoran2006
                        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 19840

                        #12
                        Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                        BTW.

                        I only recall Losman throwing one pass to Lynch for 15 yards.

                        Is that the only time Lynch got thrown the ball? If the answer is yes, my question for the playcallers is.. why?


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                        • SquishDaFish
                          Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 17034

                          #13
                          Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                          I agree with most of your post PAt. Yes Jp laid an egg today. The Coaching sucked ass big time! But when you say we have talent everywhere except QB and CB your blind. JP has alot of talent that he better ****ing find. And McGee isnt bad and is very talented. Now Webster BLOWS!

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                          • Crisis
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 12738

                            #14
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                            It's time to retire #21.

                            Punt Catcher, McGahee, and Webster?
                            Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                            Vanek is Austrian not European
                            Originally posted by Prov401
                            Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
                            Originally posted by better days
                            I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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                            • Nighthawk
                              Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 15437

                              #15
                              Re: Den wins.. My thoughts

                              Originally posted by Billsology
                              Frankly, I'm tired of the whole thing.

                              And I'm especially tired of the culture of losing that Wilson has established here.
                              Bills fans deserve better.
                              That is the most true post I've seen on this board in a long time! If you want to get to the bottom of our problems, you must start with Ralphy.

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