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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73867

    Take substitutions and stick them...

    I remember a time when Bruce Smith, Jeff Wright and Phil Hansen played almost every defensive snap. These days with games on the line we have multi-million dollar players on the bench?? Schobel and a couple of others weren't even on the field for most of Denver's second drive...of the game. This has to stop.




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  • Kerr
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 6656

    #2
    Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

    Isn't the due to the cover 2 philosophy of rotating and keeping defensive linemen fresh?

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    • raphael120
      Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
      • Oct 2005
      • 5152

      #3
      Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

      I'll take a 70% Schobel over a 100% backup bum.

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      • Ebenezer
        Give me a minute...
        • Jul 2002
        • 73867

        #4
        Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

        Originally posted by Kerr
        Isn't the due to the cover 2 philosophy of rotating and keeping defensive linemen fresh?
        and how did that work out for them??? nevermind, here are the stats...

        1 sack for 5 yards
        470 total yards
        171 yards rushing
        Cutler 23/39

        I'd call that a failure. What is the point of keeping them fresh if the guys who you bring in allow the other team to march all over the field....especially in the 4th quarter...glad to know Schobel and Kelsay are making so much money for working 60% of the time.




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        • Kerr
          Hall of Fame Zoner
          • Feb 2005
          • 6656

          #5
          Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

          Originally posted by Ebenezer
          and how did that work out for them??? nevermind, here are the stats...

          1 sack for 5 yards
          470 total yards
          171 yards rushing
          Cutler 23/39

          I'd call that a failure. What is the point of keeping them fresh if the guys who you bring in allow the other team to march all over the field....especially in the 4th quarter...glad to know Schobel and Kelsay are making so much money for working 60% of the time.

          I'm not agreeing with the philosophy. I actually think Schobel and co should be playing more.

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          • mchurchfie
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 13418

            #6
            Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

            This coaching staff is outsmarting itself...which doesn't seem to be too hard.
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            • Ebenezer
              Give me a minute...
              • Jul 2002
              • 73867

              #7
              Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

              Originally posted by Kerr
              I'm not agreeing with the philosophy. I actually think Schobel and co should be playing more.
              a lot more.




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              • Ebenezer
                Give me a minute...
                • Jul 2002
                • 73867

                #8
                Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                Originally posted by mchurchfie
                This coaching staff is outsmarting itself...which doesn't seem to be too hard.
                it's just not this staff...MM and GW also did it all the time.




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                • Stewie
                  Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 11567

                  #9
                  Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                  I didn't usually see hansen or bruce running up the field 30 yards and making tackles too often, either. These guys need a break sometimes.
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                  • billsburgh
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3560

                    #10
                    Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                    Originally posted by Ebenezer
                    it's just not this staff...MM and GW also did it all the time.
                    it all started with the antichrist Jimmy Johnson when he was doing it in Dallas.

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                    • Night Train
                      Retired - On Several Levels
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 33117

                      #11
                      Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                      Sitting in the stands, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Schobel & Kelsay standing on the sidelines for long stretches while Jason Jefferson and Eric Powell played DE.

                      Didn't they just give Schobel & Kelsay huge contracts ?

                      Makes no sense.
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                      • billsburgh
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3560

                        #12
                        Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                        Originally posted by Night Train
                        Sitting in the stands, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Schobel & Kelsay standing on the sidelines for long stretches while Jason Jefferson and Eric Powell played DE.

                        Didn't they just give Schobel & Kelsay huge contracts ?

                        Makes no sense.
                        dont you get it, it's so that they are still fresh at the end of the game and can stop the offense from converting 3rd and 23 and marching down the field to kick the winning field goal.

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                        • EDS
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5216

                          #13
                          Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                          Originally posted by billsburgh
                          dont you get it, it's so that they are still fresh at the end of the game and can stop the offense from converting 3rd and 23 and marching down the field to kick the winning field goal.
                          To borrow some words from Austin Powers, "Ouch baby, very ouch."

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                          • TacklingDummy
                            Unreachable Douche
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71725

                            #14
                            Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                            Originally posted by paulB
                            I didn't usually see hansen or bruce running up the field 30 yards and making tackles too often, either. These guys need a break sometimes.
                            There is plenty of time for Defense to get a break when the Bills offense is on the field going 3 and out.


                            1st and 10 at BUF 33 (3:32) M.Lynch up the middle to BUF 36 for 3 yards (N.Webster).

                            4th and 15 at BUF 28 (2:25) B.Moorman punts 46 yards to DEN 26, Center-R.Neill. D.Hixon to DEN 34 for 8 yards (P.Posluszny).

                            That was a whole 1 minute ,8 seconds the defense had to rest. What more do you want?

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                            • TacklingDummy
                              Unreachable Douche
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71725

                              #15
                              Re: Take substitutions and stick them...

                              Here's another one early in the 2nd QTR, right after Denver had the ball for most of the 1st QTR.

                              1st and 10 at BUF 16 (11:53) J.Losman pass incomplete to L.Evans (D.Bly). Receiver and coverage at BUF 21, ball thrown behind receiver.

                              4th and 7 at BUF 19 (11:04) B.Moorman punts 46 yards to DEN 35, Center-R.Neill. D.Hixon to DEN 33 for -2 yards (J.Stamer).

                              Oh wow, a whole 49 seconds of rest.

                              And people wonder why they gave up 470 yards of offense.

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