The question now is when and not if the JP era ends.

[BILLSROCK1212]

When the era ends remains to be seen but unless he puts up some 300 yd passing games with no interceptions it will end pretty soon. I would say by week 4 against the Jets or the latest against the Jets in week 8. Losman has never been the consistent QB we have been looking for. He is always scared to throw and seems lost at times. Trent Edwards experienced many sacks at Stanford play behind a horrific O-line on a terrible team. Because of this I highly doubt he will ever be afraid to take a sack and will have more composure in the pocket and will take his time to make the perfect pass and will find the open recievers. He also has decent speed for a QB running as fast as a 4.6 40 yard dash which is faster than JP Losman ever ran as far as I know. In my opinion if the Trent Edwards era is a failure then not only do we need a completely new coaching staff aside from Bobby April but we will also need a completely different scouting department and maybe even a new owner until we first make it to the playoffs. But I would not like to look in that direction. Lets pray for the best and right not that just may be with Trent Edwards.

Lastly I will finish this post by praying for Kevin Everett who's situation is way more important at this time.

[gr8slayer]

oh my goodness. This subject has gotten old

[BILLSROCK1212]

oh my goodness. This subject has gotten old for you maybe but after last week my opinion has done a 180

[Al the Bills Fan]

When the era ends remains to be seen but unless he puts up some 300 yd passing games with no interceptions it will end pretty soon. I would say by week 4 against the Jets or the latest against the Jets in week 8. Losman has never been the consistent QB we have been looking for. He is always scared to throw and seems lost at times. Trent Edwards experienced many sacks at Stanford play behind a horrific O-line on a terrible team. Because of this I highly doubt he will ever be afraid to take a sack and will have more composure in the pocket and will take his time to make the perfect pass and will find the open recievers. He also has decent speed for a QB running as fast as a 4.6 40 yard dash which is faster than JP Losman ever ran as far as I know. In my opinion if the Trent Edwards era is a failure then not only do we need a completely new coaching staff aside from Bobby April but we will also need a completely different scouting department and maybe even a new owner until we first make it to the playoffs. But I would not like to look in that direction. Lets pray for the best and right not that just may be with Trent Edwards.

Lastly I will finish this post by praying for Kevin Everett who's situation is way more important at this time.


I am not a huge JP Losman fan, I never have been! He has all the physical gifts and talent in the world but i just don't think he is "football smart" enough to be an starting quarterback in the NFL. (I hope he proves me wrong!) I am willing to give him this year to prove himself, I think this is JP's make or break season. I am willing to give him this year, not next year.
I am not quite sure he needs to put up 300 yds. a game to keep his job, I think he just needs to be consistent. As you pointed out, this has been a problem for him since the start of his career. Like I said before, I am not a JP fan but no one wants for him to suceed more then I do because ultimately the sucess of our team (at least for this year) depends upon it.

With that said, I am very impressed with Edward's play in the pre-season. He looks great to me! Ultimately I think that Edwards is the better option, although that is hard to say seeing that he has no NFL game experience against starting defenses but if Losman proves he can play I have no problems with that. Let's Go Buffalo!

http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/BJdpnh2cK2fUnfvx85isHl67qIku-0ep01EC.jpg

[duhbilz]

oh my goodness. This subject has gotten old

All summer it was how good JP is gonna be this year, but one day of JP sucks and it's getting old?

[Ebenezer]

for you maybe but after last week my opinion has done a 360
so, then your opinion is the same as it was......then why the new thread?

[acehole]

Insane! Why dont we just trade Lee evans for a bucket of chicken and be done with it.


When the era ends remains to be seen but unless he puts up some 300 yd passing games with no interceptions it will end pretty soon. I would say by week 4 against the Jets or the latest against the Jets in week 8. Losman has never been the consistent QB we have been looking for. He is always scared to throw and seems lost at times. Trent Edwards experienced many sacks at Stanford play behind a horrific O-line on a terrible team. Because of this I highly doubt he will ever be afraid to take a sack and will have more composure in the pocket and will take his time to make the perfect pass and will find the open recievers. He also has decent speed for a QB running as fast as a 4.6 40 yard dash which is faster than JP Losman ever ran as far as I know. In my opinion if the Trent Edwards era is a failure then not only do we need a completely new coaching staff aside from Bobby April but we will also need a completely different scouting department and maybe even a new owner until we first make it to the playoffs. But I would not like to look in that direction. Lets pray for the best and right not that just may be with Trent Edwards.

Lastly I will finish this post by praying for Kevin Everett who's situation is way more important at this time.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

I really hate to say it because its an "excuse" but lets look at the best teams in the NFL..

Colts
Peyton has Wayne, Harrison, Addai,Clark and Gonzalez.. Not to mention a great Oline and very good defense..

Patriots
Brady has always had good weapons around him a really Good Oline and a good Defense..

Bengals
While not as good as the Colts or Pats, Palmer has great WR a good RB and pretty good Oline.. Plus a good Defense..

Chargers
Rivers has the best RB and TE in the NFL.. His Oline gives him time to throw.. Rivers also has a very good Defense..

Now a few other teams without "elite" QB's:

Cowboys
Romo has Owens a great TE 2 good RB's a good Oline and a good Defense..

Broncos
Cutler has Walker and Marshall a good TE a RB that wont be satisfied with only 1yard.. The best efensive backfield in the NFL..

Bears
While they dont have a great O there D is the best in the NFC and they have very good ST..

Ravens
See Bears..

Now lets look at the Bills..
JP has Evans thats really all he can trust..

Dont get me wrong I support whoever is the Bills QB, but I cant see how Edwards or anybody in that matter could come in right now and throw for 200-300yrds and 3-4TD's with consistency.. Its a TEAM sport and the TEAM isnt playing with consistency right now..

[mchurchfie]

so, then your opinion is the same as it was......then why the new thread?
:rofl:

[mchurchfie]

Insane! Why dont we just trade Lee evans for a bucket of chicken and be done with it.
:hungry::supper:

[X-Era]

When the era ends remains to be seen but unless he puts up some 300 yd passing games with no interceptions it will end pretty soon. I would say by week 4 against the Jets or the latest against the Jets in week 8. Losman has never been the consistent QB we have been looking for. He is always scared to throw and seems lost at times. Trent Edwards experienced many sacks at Stanford play behind a horrific O-line on a terrible team. Because of this I highly doubt he will ever be afraid to take a sack and will have more composure in the pocket and will take his time to make the perfect pass and will find the open recievers. He also has decent speed for a QB running as fast as a 4.6 40 yard dash which is faster than JP Losman ever ran as far as I know. In my opinion if the Trent Edwards era is a failure then not only do we need a completely new coaching staff aside from Bobby April but we will also need a completely different scouting department and maybe even a new owner until we first make it to the playoffs. But I would not like to look in that direction. Lets pray for the best and right not that just may be with Trent Edwards.

Lastly I will finish this post by praying for Kevin Everett who's situation is way more important at this time.

Im not going anywhere :smile:

[evol4276]

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=134005

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133998

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133919

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133867

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133865

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133820

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133804

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133812

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133766



can we merge these please? they're all the same. or make it its own board, or something. no this post isn't constructive but yes it has a simple point. plus the fact that im sick and can't sleep a full night so Im up at the moment which makes me crabby enuff as it is.

[Wally The Barber]

Losman would need to continue to play poorly and there is a chance the coaches will insert Edwards in a lopsided game.
If Edwards does well, the Losman era May be over!
Trent Edwards could struggle too!
But, I have a feeling he will do well for a rookie.

[Mitchy moo]

Losman would need to continue to play poorly and there is a chance the coaches will insert Edwards in a lopsided game.
If Edwards does well, the Losman era May be over!
Trent Edwards couls struggle too!

Like having a 97 yard game?

[BILLSROCK1212]

i said in the post he needs to have some300 or high 200 yard games to keep his job....if he does i am cool with it but only if he performs

[Mr. Pink]

oh my goodness. This subject has gotten old


oh my goodness. JPs poor play over his career has gotten old.

[SABURZFAN]

All summer it was how good JP is gonna be this year, but one day of JP sucks and it's getting old?



that's the Lickers mentality.if we wore the rose-colored glasses that they wear,we'd probably get a better understanding. :rolleyes:

[Michael82]

I should have figured that the Kevin Everett stuff wouldn't keep you haters down for too long. I wondered how long it would take until we are back to having a miserable Bills board from all the arguments again. :ill:

[SABURZFAN]

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=134005

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133998

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133919

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133867

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133865

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133820

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133804

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133812

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=133766



can we merge these please? they're all the same. or make it its own board, or something. no this post isn't constructive but yes it has a simple point. plus the fact that im sick and can't sleep a full night so Im up at the moment which makes me crabby enuff as it is.


:wail:


does the truth hurt?you think you can't sleep?how do you think Marv and Dick feel knowing that they don't know what kind of play they'll get from their QB?

[Turf]

The main problem for me with JP is that with the exception of the occasional long ball to Evans, there is no chemistry between the QB and receivers on this team. Very few sharp timing routes, slants, over the middle patterns. Everything is stand there so I can hit you, or scramble to get open after the play breaks down.
Whether you blame this on JP or the coaches I don't know, but it isn't happening. They don't even look like a professional team out there half the time.
Add to the fact that JP's accuracy was terrible the last game, he missed a couple easy passes that would have been first downs, and they were only 10 yard throws.

[SABURZFAN]

I should have figured that the Kevin Everett stuff wouldn't keep you haters down for too long. I wondered how long it would take until we are back to having a miserable Bills board from all the arguments again. :ill:



great party.......... :cheers:

[mchurchfie]

I should have figured that the Kevin Everett stuff wouldn't keep you haters down for too long. I wondered how long it would take until we are back to having a miserable Bills board from all the arguments again. :ill:
We're not hating, we are debating Mikey. Learn to differentiate. That's what discussion boards are for. I suggest this site http://www.feelgoodvibes.com/ for the ones that want to feel all warm and fuzzy.:up: BTW, I feel just as bad about Everett as anyone so don't even go there.:chair:

[HHURRICANE]

I'm not ready to roll JP under the bus yet. Maybe when the Bills figure out how to roll JP out of the pocket and put a gameplan together where I don't look like a Jedi-master by guessing everytime if it's a "run' or a "pass' than maybe I will be ready to concede.

What happens when Edwards comes in and has the same exact problems? Maybe Fairchild isn't an offensive genius without Mike Martz holding the bottle for him.

Bellichek is starting to look like the brains behind the organization again in NE and Crennel and Weiss look like the jock strap carriers that they were.

[Wally The Barber]

Pittsburg and New England.

The end may be sooner then you think!

Losman is rated #31 by stats posted this morning.:help!:

[mchurchfie]

.

What happens when Edwards comes in and has the same exact problems?
We'll never know unless we try, right?

[SABURZFAN]

Pittsburg and New England.

The end may be sooner then you think!

Losman is rated #31 by stats posted this morning.:help!:



what was his Passer Rating?i know it's a useless stat but draz hasn't been around to force feed us that crap.

[HHURRICANE]

what was his Passer Rating?i know it's a useless stat but draz hasn't been around to force feed us that crap.

It was bad along with alot of other QBs. This year's discussion is alot different than last years. JP has now been given almost every chance to succeed.

I believe the coaching staff isn't doing anything to help him this year so he'd better figure it out quick or he'll be done by the bye.

I warned you guys that there wasn't alot of confidence on OBD for JP.

JP might be his own worse enemy. His quote about the long pass kind of summed it up.

[evol4276]

:wail:


does the truth hurt?you think you can't sleep?how do you think Marv and Dick feel knowing that they don't know what kind of play they'll get from their QB? if i had the will to id go to every jp defending thread n do the same thing. why do we as a whole feel the need to reiderate something so many times in so many different threads? jsut keep them all in one or 2 and be done with it. btw u shuld adjust ur living styles if ur football team is keeping u from being able to sleep, :-P

[TacklingDummy]

what was his Passer Rating?i know it's a useless stat but draz hasn't been around to force feed us that crap.

Since no one will answer you.

JP passer rating was 57.0.

27th in the NFL.

But he did complete 14 of 21 passes for 97 yards.