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  • The Answer
    The Plagiarist
    • Mar 2007
    • 2633

    What the Losman apologists don't understand....

    The Answer has heard all the excuses possible the last few days:

    "The coaching was horrible"

    "Denver has the best secondary in the league"

    "Nobody was open downfield"

    "It was the first game of the season, give him a break"

    "The weather factored into the gameplan"

    "The coaches held JP back"

    "He's only has one season worth of starting experience."

    ETC ETC ETC

    So let's look at the most plausible 'excuse' - The perceived bad coaching. Well there's a reason the coaching was bad, and that is because the coaches have no faith in Losman. With their star player taken out of the game (Evans) they were forced to run a bland, predicable ball control offense to limit mistakes. But even when they did that Losman make ignorant mistakes like the INT on screen pass before halftime. Furthermore Losman dosen't fit the system fairchild is trying to run begin with. Also losman doesn't have the intelligence to improvise when a play breaks down, nor does he have the natural insticts and talent to find the 2nd and 3rd options on a regular basis.

    Bottom line - 100 yards is inexcusable unless you are a playmaker like Vince Young that knows how to win games - then you can throw box scores out the window.

    ~The Answer
  • PECKERWOOD
    Defies all logic
    • Oct 2006
    • 13170

    #2
    Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

    Nice post Answer.

    I agree with most of it, other then that part about Losman, that is. >:)

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    • shelby
      The Vanilla *****
      • Jul 2002
      • 48489

      #3
      Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

      Losman is running the plays that are called by the coaches.

      He doesn't appear to be a "dink and dunk" type QB to me.

      i think he needs to be allowed to scramble, when necessary. He's a mobile QB and his skills aren't being utilized.

      If the starting QB's skills don't fit the system, perhaps the system should be tweaked.

      Just my opinion.

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      • Mitchy moo
        Roways rooking ahread!
        • Sep 2005
        • 18380

        #4
        Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

        Originally posted by shelby
        Losman is running the plays that are called by the coaches.

        He doesn't appear to be a "dink and dunk" type QB to me.

        i think he needs to be allowed to scramble, when necessary. He's a mobile QB and his skills aren't being utilized.

        If the starting QB's skills don't fit the system, perhaps the system should be tweaked.

        Just my opinion.
        You usually tweak to a different player, not to a different system. We got rid of TKO because he wasn't compatible with the scheme and he has much more cred than JP to this point.

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        • LtBillsFan66
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 35553

          #5
          Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

          This thread is a ripoff of this thread:
          We heard: He's coming off a broken leg, so still a rookie. He got the runaround, and his confidence was hurt. This is technically his first year. He played against a good D, that's why he put up puss.

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          • TacklingDummy
            Unreachable Douche
            • Jul 2002
            • 71725

            #6
            Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

            Originally posted by The Answer
            So let's look at the most plausible 'excuse' - The perceived bad coaching.
            Was it really bad coaching or was it just poor execution?

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            • M
              Registered User
              • Aug 2006
              • 1947

              #7
              Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

              Originally posted by TacklingDummy
              Was it really bad coaching or was it just poor execution?
              Why can't it be both? IMHO I thought the play calling s*cked.
              Let's Go Bills ... B B B B B B Bills!

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              • TacklingDummy
                Unreachable Douche
                • Jul 2002
                • 71725

                #8
                Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                Originally posted by CTBills97
                Why can't it be both? IMHO I thought the play calling s*cked.
                I agree.


                It was more on the exection I believe.

                The coaches didn't call for Lynch to step out of bounds on the last drive, the coaches didn't tell Losman to throw the INT, the coaches didn't tell Losman to over throw Evans, the coaches didn't take the sack that made Lindell FG try farther, the coaches didn't miss the FG...etc

                People can blame the play calling all they want but the coaches only call the plays, its the players that didn't execute them.

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                • Oaf
                  Do you read what you write?
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 6151

                  #9
                  Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                  I do believe Answer is on to something.

                  If defenses find a way to take Evans out of the game like Denver did, Losman is only a average QB IMO. Answer's right, Losman has consistently shown the inability to find the 2nd and 3rd short and intermediate options after Evans.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101261

                    #10
                    Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                    Originally posted by The Answer
                    The Answer has heard all the excuses possible the last few days:

                    "The coaching was horrible"

                    "Denver has the best secondary in the league"

                    "Nobody was open downfield"

                    "It was the first game of the season, give him a break"

                    "The weather factored into the gameplan"

                    "The coaches held JP back"

                    "He's only has one season worth of starting experience."

                    ETC ETC ETC

                    So let's look at the most plausible 'excuse' - The perceived bad coaching. Well there's a reason the coaching was bad, and that is because the coaches have no faith in Losman. With their star player taken out of the game (Evans) they were forced to run a bland, predicable ball control offense to limit mistakes. But even when they did that Losman make ignorant mistakes like the INT on screen pass before halftime. Furthermore Losman dosen't fit the system fairchild is trying to run begin with. Also losman doesn't have the intelligence to improvise when a play breaks down, nor does he have the natural insticts and talent to find the 2nd and 3rd options on a regular basis.

                    Bottom line - 100 yards is inexcusable unless you are a playmaker like Vince Young that knows how to win games - then you can throw box scores out the window.

                    ~The Answer
                    What you don't understand is that there are no Losman apologists. No one is trying to defend how Losman performed. What people are saying is at this point, Losman gives us the best chance to win going forward and we are not willing to sacrifice the season to groom Edwards yet.
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                    • patmoran2006
                      Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 19840

                      #11
                      Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                      Originally posted by OpIv37
                      What you don't understand is that there are no Losman apologists. No one is trying to defend how Losman performed. What people are saying is at this point, Losman gives us the best chance to win going forward and we are not willing to sacrifice the season to groom Edwards yet.
                      sorry bro.. This season was sacrificed in April when we did nothing to address DT, WR, TE or CB other than Jason Freekin webster


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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101261

                        #12
                        Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                        Originally posted by patmoran2006
                        sorry bro.. This season was sacrificed in April when we did nothing to address DT, WR, TE or CB other than Jason Freekin webster
                        I half agree- I think this team has a lot of holes and it's going to be a ****ty season. At the same time, I think we have to give the guys we have a chance and know for a fact that it's a lost cause before completely giving up on the season. Also, we need to improve before playing Edwards- otherwise we're just throwing him to the wolves.
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                        • The Answer
                          The Plagiarist
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 2633

                          #13
                          Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                          Originally posted by billsfanone
                          This thread is a ripoff of this thread:
                          http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...d.php?t=134063
                          There's so many anti Losman threads it's hard to keep track....

                          ~The Answer

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                          • PECKERWOOD
                            Defies all logic
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 13170

                            #14
                            Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                            Originally posted by The Answer
                            There's so many anti Losman threads it's hard to keep track....

                            ~The Answer
                            Wrong answer.


                            The Answer thinks that there are so many anti Losman threads that it's hard to keep track....

                            Right answer.

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                            • JerseyBoofaloBills
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 629

                              #15
                              Re: What the Losman apologists don't understand....

                              W.e its one game, and i dont really care what the answer has to say cause he just pisses me off..JP is going to do just fine, i wouldnt be surprised if he threw all over the steelers secondary..

                              LETS GO BUFFALO!

                              ~
                              DemBillsOwn

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