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Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:02 PM
... what they wish for...


Jim Kelly 2nd year (28 games) as starter 83.81
JP Losman 2nd year (24 games) as starter 84.9
Jim Kelly 3rd year (44 games) as starter 78.23
JP Losman 3rd year as starter????

Is Trent Edwards the next Frank Reich? Or will JP lead the Lions to the SB?

TacklingDummy
09-22-2007, 08:04 PM
JP Losman in the same breath as Jim Kelly is a disgrace.

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Completion percentage and QB rating are worthless statistics.

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:12 PM
They're only worthless if they disagree with your opinion!!

Novacane
09-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Damn, thanks for posting those stats. I feel so much better about JP now that I know he's a better QB than Kelly :lmao:

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:26 PM
Of course you're gonna take it there... Because it makes too much sense for you to handle concerning your passion for bashing.

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:28 PM
They're only worthless if they disagree with your opinion!!

Rob Johnson year 1 - 102.9
Rob Johnson year 2 - 119.5
Rob Johnson year 3 - 82.2

I rest my case.

Mitchy moo
09-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Heart is not measured in numbers.

Novacane
09-22-2007, 08:33 PM
Rob Johnson year 1 - 102.9
Rob Johnson year 2 - 119.5
Rob Johnson year 3 - 82.2

I rest my case.


Great find :cheers: Guess they can close this stupid thread.:biggrin:

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:34 PM
Skooby... Maybe you should stay on the porch. I don't have a lot of respect for a flip flopper after just 1 game.

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:35 PM
Rob Johnson year 1 - 102.9
Rob Johnson year 2 - 119.5
Rob Johnson year 3 - 82.2

I rest my case.So you're saying RJ was better than JK?

Remember... The comparison is "as a starter".

Novacane
09-22-2007, 08:36 PM
Of course you're gonna take it there... Because it makes too much sense for you to handle concerning your passion for bashing.

Dude you're the one with the passion for defending inept play. How many threads excusing JP's play have you started today. I have not started a single JP bashing thread all season.

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:42 PM
Dude you're the one with the passion for defending inept play. How many threads excusing JP's play have you started today. I have not started a single JP bashing thread all season.Umm... What is 2 including this one... Alex?
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=135088

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:43 PM
So you're saying RJ was better than JK?

Remember... The comparison is "as a starter".

No...Your perception that QB rating is a relevant statistic would lead you to that conclusion, not me. It merely supports my 'opinion' that the statistic is worthless.

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:45 PM
It sure would be a shame (As a Bills fan) to watch JP lead another team to success... That's the point of this thread.

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:46 PM
<TABLE class=wikitable><TBODY><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Steve Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young_%28American_football%29)</TD><TD>96.81</TD><TD>[/URL]Y</TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yes_check.svg)</TD><TD>94.37</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Kurt Warner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>93.77</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Joe Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>92.26</TD><TD>Y</TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Marc Bulger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yes_check.svg)</TD><TD>91.26</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>Daunte Culpepper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>90.75</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>Chad Pennington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>89.32</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Tom Brady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>88.36</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Drew Brees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>87.54</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Trent Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>87.48</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>Jeff Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>86.43</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>Dan Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>86.38</TD><TD>Y</TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>Donovan McNabb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yes_check.svg)</TD><TD>85.19</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>14</TD><TD>Matt Hasselbeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>85.10</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>15</TD><TD>Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>85.05</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>16</TD><TD>Rich Gannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>84.71</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>17</TD><TD>Brian Griese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>84.54</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>18</TD><TD>Jim Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>84.39</TD><TD>Y</TD></TR><TR><TD>19</TD><TD>Mark Brunell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yes_check.svg)</TD><TD>84.21</TD><TD>N</TD></TR><TR><TD>20</TD><TD>[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Delhomme"]Jake Delhomme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:X_mark.svg)</TD><TD>84.05</TD><TD>N</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Career QB ratings...you shouldn't have to get too far down the list to realize that it's a joke.

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:47 PM
It sure would be a shame (As a Bills fan) to watch JP lead another team to success... That's the point of this thread.

I could care less if he leads another team to success...My only concern is if he has the ability to lead this team to success.

kinigirly
09-22-2007, 08:51 PM
that's funny i was just talking about this at the bar. someone brought up that kelly said in an interview in the past week or two that watching jp reminded him exactly of the young version of himself

Yasgur's Farm
09-22-2007, 08:51 PM
<table class="wikitable"><tbody><tr><td>1</td><td>Steve Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young_%28American_football%29)</td><td>96.81</td><td>Y</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning)</td><td>94.37</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Kurt Warner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Warner)</td><td>93.77</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Joe Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Montana)</td><td>92.26</td><td>Y</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Marc Bulger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Bulger)</td><td>91.26</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Daunte Culpepper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunte_Culpepper)</td><td>90.75</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Chad Pennington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Pennington)</td><td>89.32</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Tom Brady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady)</td><td>88.36</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Drew Brees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Brees)</td><td>87.54</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Trent Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Green)</td><td>87.48</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Jeff Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Garcia)</td><td>86.43</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Dan Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino)</td><td>86.38</td><td>Y</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Donovan McNabb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb)</td><td>85.19</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Matt Hasselbeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Hasselbeck)</td><td>85.10</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre)</td><td>85.05</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Rich Gannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Gannon)</td><td>84.71</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Brian Griese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Griese)</td><td>84.54</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Jim Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kelly)</td><td>84.39</td><td>Y</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>Mark Brunell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Brunell)</td><td>84.21</td><td>N</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>Jake Delhomme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Delhomme)</td><td>84.05</td><td>N</td></tr></tbody></table>
Career QB ratings...you shouldn't have to get too far down the list to realize that it's a joke.What?

YardRat
09-22-2007, 08:56 PM
What?

If you had to pick the Top 20 QB's of all time, would that be your list? I can count at the very least, with my best attempt at putting bias aside, 10 guys ahead of JK on that list that couldn't hold his jock strap.

TacklingDummy
09-22-2007, 09:01 PM
I have not started a single JP bashing thread all season.

Either have I.

And I use to be high on the list of JP Bashers. Im falling down that list fast.

Novacane
09-23-2007, 07:22 AM
Either have I.

And I use to be high on the list of JP Bashers. Im falling down that list fast.

We don't have to start any. Enough others are seeing the light on JP.