Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

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  • Oaf
    Do you read what you write?
    • Jun 2007
    • 6151

    Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

    Even when Leonard, Youboty, Denney, and Wire are cleared to play, do we keep starting Wilson, Greer, and Ellison?

    I think Greer is a no brainer. What draft pick you were 3 years ago is now irrelevant now that Greer has consistently shown he can excel. Not only that, he seems to also have stepped up into one of our empty leadership spots as result of his play and his words off the field. He could be playing himself to a solid contract extension next year and that'll be nice to see after 4 years languishing on the bottom of the depth chart. If he keeps this kind of play up, an improbable Pro Bowl berth isn't out of the question.

    Wilson also showed me a lot last night when both he and Greer took down one of the "premier" WRs in the league in Owens. Obviously coming from the WR position he's got those ball skills. His tackling ability really surprised me as well, as he was more than willing to fill in and put in a solid hit as evidenced by his 5 solos. With more range and speed than Jim, I think he should stick until proven otherwise. Jim did a good job mentoring him but just doesn't have the ability to be more than a stopgap player at this point. A pity too, cause he's all heart.

    As for Ellison, he reminded me of Jeff Posey yesterday, invisible. We all know what we'll get with Wire: make a play or giving one up. Ellison played solid last year for Spikes, especially for a 6th round pick, but I think Wire should be given a shot to take his spot when he gets back. Ellison should start the Ravens game, but if he still looks sluggish and doesn't show the excellent instincts he did last year, let's put in Sparkplug Wire and see if we improve.

    It definitely looks we've got some solid talent developing on D. Next year, this unit could be great with Schobel, McCargo, Poz, Greer and Whitner. We may still need another LB, CB, and DT but that's for the offseason (which is rapidly approaching unfortunately)

    Well, that's my imput, what's yours?

  • SABURZFAN
    short bus extraordinaire
    • Jul 2002
    • 50747

    #2
    Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

    Wilson and Greer are not starters IMO.Greer is a solid backup.i'd like to see Wilson in a Dime package on defense and play the role as a quiet target on offense,much like Gaines has been the last couple of games.i think a rotating system could work out between Ellison and Wire unless somebody can step up and take the job.
    Originally posted by yordad
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    • churchinski
      Senior Zoner
      • Sep 2007
      • 617

      #3
      Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

      greer without a question should be the starter

      the guy makes plays

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      • Oaf
        Do you read what you write?
        • Jun 2007
        • 6151

        #4
        Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

        Wilson in the dime is not a bad idea. I just don't like him and Leonard being out there at the same time. I'd rather keep him there and have Butler come in for dime situations, or maybe Bryan Scott.

        Ask for Greer, he's been our best CB this season, backup or not. I don't see why he isn't more than a backup, perhaps you could elaborate. If youboty deserves the start, put McGee in the slot before you take Greer out.

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        • mchurchfie
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 13418

          #5
          Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

          Greer has been the best corner so far this year.
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          • shelby
            The Vanilla *****
            • Jul 2002
            • 48489

            #6
            Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

            Greer is a starter. Period.
            i'd like to see Youbouty come back and start.

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            • Mahdi
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 10585

              #7
              Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

              Originally posted by SABURZFAN
              Wilson and Greer are not starters IMO.Greer is a solid backup.i'd like to see Wilson in a Dime package on defense and play the role as a quiet target on offense,much like Gaines has been the last couple of games.i think a rotating system could work out between Ellison and Wire unless somebody can step up and take the job.
              Why would you want to keep a playmaker off the field?

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              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490

                #8
                Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                Wilson made a pick that an 8 year old can make. Romo was downright horrible so the picks, although good, were a little overrated.

                The Bills had a sacking frenzy week 2 last year against Miami. Denney had 3 sacks in that game. Should we have made him the starter?

                It's one game people.

                Yobouty has showed me alot when on the field. Greer has looked good. Wire has always been a backup so I would leave him on the bench.

                Funny how Hargrove comes back and the teams intensity ratchets up! I hope this is Denney's last year here.

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                • Dantheman1280
                  I am the Man!
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 930

                  #9
                  Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                  i know everyone hates when someone this board bashes on our high paid DE's, but there was no pressure on Romo almost all night. Picks aside our pass rush is pitful, get rid of both of them.

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                  • DMBcrew36
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 5096

                    #10
                    Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                    Greer is the only one I was impressed with enough to say that he HAS to start.

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                    • mybills
                      81 st zoner
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 61717

                      #11
                      Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                      Originally posted by HHURRICANE

                      Yobouty has showed me alot when on the field.
                      It's Youboty, and exactly what has he shown?

                      Last edited by mybills; 10-10-2007, 09:08 AM.
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                      • mybills
                        81 st zoner
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 61717

                        #12
                        Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                        Originally posted by mchurchfie
                        Greer has been the best corner so far this year.
                        As much as I have a soft spot for McGee, I have to agree. Greer should start.
                        I didn't come here to fight, I hate fighting. Life is way too short to spend it on fighting! Go fight with yourself, one of you will eventually win!

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                        • HHURRICANE
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 15490

                          #13
                          Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                          Originally posted by Dantheman1280
                          i know everyone hates when someone this board bashes on our high paid DE's, but there was no pressure on Romo almost all night. Picks aside our pass rush is pitful, get rid of both of them.
                          I told everyone that Schobel wouldn't show up on Monday Night. He'll get defended for the strip but he had 2 tackles and 0 sacks.

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                          • Mahdi
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 10585

                            #14
                            Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                            Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                            I told everyone that Schobel wouldn't show up on Monday Night. He'll get defended for the strip but he had 2 tackles and 0 sacks.
                            He had a lot of pressures though. One of his pressures led to a pick.

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                            • HHURRICANE
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 15490

                              #15
                              Re: Have we found our Final Defensive Starters?

                              Originally posted by Mahdi
                              He had a lot of pressures though. One of his pressures led to a pick.
                              How many times did Romo get sacked?

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