JP Losman: The Last 5 Games Started

[TacklingDummy]

JP's combined stats. for the last 5 games that he started.

69 of 115, 758 yards, 2 TDs, 5 INTS, 12 Sacks, 3 Fumbles, 1 Fumble Lost

67.2 RAT

Bills record 0-5

Any Questions?

[Meathead]

start homeless guy now

[Yasgur's Farm]

JP's combined stats. for the last 5 games that he started.

69 of 115, 758 yards, 2 TDs, 6 INTS, 12 Sacks, 3 Fumbles, 1 Fumble Lost

63.6 RAT

Bills record 0-5

Any Questions?OK... I'll play... BTW, for the record, it was only 5 INT's and a PR of 67.2.

JP's combined stats. for the last 7 games that he started.

92 of 149, 1158 yards, 7 TDs, 5 INTS, 19 Sacks, 4 Fumbles, 2 Fumble Lost

87.7 RAT

Bills record 2-5

Anyone care to do this for the last 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?

[SABURZFAN]

OK... I'll play... BTW, for the record, it was only 5 INT's and a PR of 67.2.

JP's combined stats. for the last 7 games that he started.

92 of 149, 1158 yards, 7 TDs, 5 INTS, 19 Sacks, 4 Fumbles, 2 Fumble Lost

87.7 RAT

Bills record 2-5

Anyone care to do this for the last 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?



:laughter:

hook.....line.........and sinker.

you're too predictable draz.

[TacklingDummy]

Anyone care to do this for the last 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?

I'll do all 32 games played.

32 games, 414 of 709, 4678 yards, 27 TDs, 24 INTS, 81 sacks, 76.8 RAT

Bills record when JP starts, 8-19.

Any Questions?

How do you feel about these stats?

30 games, 401 of 663, 4798 yards, 27 TDs, 17 INTS, 85.5 QB RAT

[SABURZFAN]

I'll do all 32 games played.

32 games, 414 of 709, 4678 yards, 27 TDs, 24 INTS, 81 sacks, 76.8 RAT

Bills record when JP starts, 8-19.

Any Questions?

How do you feel about these stats?

30 games, 401 of 663, 4798 yards, 27 TDs, 17 INTS, 85.5 QB RAT


:popcorn:

[churchinski]

OK... I'll play... BTW, for the record, it was only 5 INT's and a PR of 67.2.

JP's combined stats. for the last 7 games that he started.

92 of 149, 1158 yards, 7 TDs, 5 INTS, 19 Sacks, 4 Fumbles, 2 Fumble Lost

87.7 RAT

Bills record 2-5

Anyone care to do this for the last 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?

No I don't care to do it for 8,9,10,11,or 12.

I've seen more than enough .

Just keep edwards in there.

[Albany,n.y.]

JP's combined stats. for the last 5 games that he started.

69 of 115, 758 yards, 2 TDs, 5 INTS, 12 Sacks, 3 Fumbles, 1 Fumble Lost

67.2 RAT

Bills record 0-5

Any Questions?
He just needs more time to develop.
He's played against tough defenses.
If we just give him the patch, he can quit smoking and he will have more stamina on the field. Or just let him light up on the field-it will calm him down.
Please don't give up on him like we did with Lamonica-he might lead a team top the playoffs if we trade him.
Do you want to quit on a 1st rouind pick that Tom Donahoe invested so much in. He's an investment, not a nickel stock.
Don't throw JP out with the bathwater

[gr8slayer]

Bills record with Edwards 1-2, any questions?

Bills record against teams not named the Jets 0-2, any questions?

They both suck.

[PECKERWOOD]

Who are the real lickers, in all honesty? I don't see Losman fans starting a bazillion threads about him every day.

[churchinski]

Bills record with Edwards 1-2, any questions?

Bills record against teams not named the Jets 0-2, any questions?

They both suck.

hmmmmm they sky is the limit and now he sucks lol


gr8slayer
Aside from a handfull of mental errors (that are very fixable) he has looked like a very calm and poised QB so far. If you look at him last year once he got the snap he would jump/bounce alot in the pocket, this year he keeps his feet on the ground and shows much more poise. I like the kid, he might not be a Pro Bowl QB this year but thankfully he does not have to be right now.

I love the way he looks and with his ability the sky is the limit, especially with a coaching staff that is patient.

This is such a wonderful time to be a Bills fan.



like i said ....it's case of ...mysery loves company

[TacklingDummy]

Who are the real lickers, in all honesty? I don't see Losman fans starting a bazillion threads about him every day.

This might be my first Losman thread this year.

[gr8slayer]

hmmmmm they sky is the limit and now he sucks lol



like i said ....it's case of ...mysery loves company
So last year after the bye-week he looked good. This season he looks just as bad as Edwards does, what's your point?

[Michael82]

Who are the real lickers, in all honesty? I don't see Losman fans starting a bazillion threads about him every day.
:bf1:

[Inetpub]

So last year after the bye-week he looked good. This season he looks just as bad as Edwards does, what's your point?

Edwards = Real 1st year rookie.

JP = fake 4th year rookie

You can do the math. if he looks as bad as Edwards does, start the real rookie.

[Wys Guy]

JP's combined stats. for the last 5 games that he started.

69 of 115, 758 yards, 2 TDs, 5 INTS, 12 Sacks, 3 Fumbles, 1 Fumble Lost

67.2 RAT

Bills record 0-5

Any Questions?

No questions, but ask yourself what's missing from that from last season?

I.e., throw in three deep balls to Evans totalling 220 yards and 3 TDs and you have last season's offense which everyone thought was good last year.

Again, one cannot predicate an entire offense on the deep ball(s) like we did last year and expect to be considered good.

Either way, factor that in and you'll see preciously little difference from last season to this one.

[justasportsfan]

No questions, but ask yourself what's missing from that from last season?

I.e., throw in three deep balls to Evans totalling 220 yards and 3 TDs and you have last season's offense which everyone thought was good last year.

Again, one cannot predicate an entire offense on the deep ball(s) like we did last year and expect to be considered good.

Either way, factor that in and you'll see preciously little difference from last season to this one.


hey wys. TDummy is taking a piece from your book of stats. If you take away JP best and worse stats....... you should ask for royallties.

[justasportsfan]

85.5 QB RAT
85.5 qb rating? Not bad considering the circumstances and coaches he's had to work with. Thanks for pointing that out TDummy.

[TacklingDummy]

85.5 qb rating? Not bad considering the circumstances and coaches he's had to work with. Thanks for pointing that out TDummy.

You do know that was Rob Johnson QB rating while in Buffalo?

[justasportsfan]

You do know that was Rob Johnson QB rating while in Buffalo?
humor me.

[TacklingDummy]

humor me.

85.5

[gr8slayer]

85.5
Most pointless statistic in all of football.

[TacklingDummy]

Most pointless statistic in all of football.


Agreed.

Based on 85.5 the Bills should have kept Robosack.

[justasportsfan]

85.5


the difference is that JP does not give up on a play and RJ just lays back and takes a sack. You might want to add that to your stats that are biased.

[TacklingDummy]

the difference is that JP does not give up on a play and RJ just lays back and takes a sack. You might want to add that to your stats that are biased.

Being sacked 81 times in 709 attempts is nothing to brag about.

[EDS]

You do know that was Rob Johnson QB rating while in Buffalo?

I think someone just got served . . .

[justasportsfan]

Being sacked 81 times in 709 attempts is nothing to brag about.
it isn't but it sure shows JP does not give up on a play while laying down and waiting for a sack makes your qb rating go up because you don't take chances. So you qb rating comparisson is misleading.Sad attempt .

[TacklingDummy]

it isn't but it sure shows JP does not give up on a play while laying down and waiting for a sack makes your qb rating go up because you don't take chances. So you qb rating comparisson is misleading.Sad attempt .

I see, JP takes 81 sacks and he's trying to make a play, Robosack takes 110 sacks and he is just laying back.

[justasportsfan]

I see, JP takes 81 sacks and he's trying to make a play, Robosack takes 110 sacks and he is just laying back.

it is what it is. Robosack would rather take a sack than try to attempt anything to pad his stats. JP's best OLmen was an undrafted TE, RJ had Ruben Brown and a better D to put him in better positions. Keep trying .

[Night Train]

Any Questions?

Yes

Do you have a copy of Paul Simons' " One Trick Pony " ?

[TacklingDummy]

Do you have a copy of Paul Simons' " One Trick Pony " ?

Nope, but opposing defenses have figured JP "The One Trick Pony" Losman out.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Nope, but opposing defenses have figured JP "The One Trick Pony" Losman out.It amazes me that you people continually choose to ignore facts presented to you that defeat your argument... You simply start another thread and state the same lies over again.
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=2153789#post2153789


For those of you who say JP only has the long ball...
For all of 2006...
217 of JP's 268 completions (81%) were thrown less than 10 yards... his completion rate for this range was 72%.

So far in 2007...
28 of his 30 completions (93%) were thrown less than 10 yards... his completion rate for this range is 74% so far.

Go ahead and tell me all he can do is throw long.

[justasportsfan]

It amazes me that you people continually choose to ignore facts presented to you... You simply start another thread.
selective stats is what TDummy learned from the school of wys. He took home a nice star. ;)

[Jan Reimers]

Edwards, in his almost 3 games played this year, has some stats that are marginally better than JP in his 2 plus a fraction games.

But Edwards has 1 TD and 3 INTs, which is hardly awe-inspiring and certainly not enough to annoint him saviour at this point.

If I were a betting man, however, I'd make Edwards the favorite for the starting QB job.

[TacklingDummy]

selective stats is what TDummy learned from the school of wys. He took home a nice star. ;)

Selective stats are what the "lickers" use when they say how JP has improved.

[trapezeus]

i like this thread for its entertainment level. i use to disagree with everything TDummy use to say. but seeing those first two games by JP were worse than his first INT at New England and his horrible effort in Tampa.

i don't know how much more people need to see with Losman. i like the guy, but he's not going to get this team to win too many games. Edwards, hung with the same OC, seems to at least get the D off the field and puts us in a position to win by managing a more effective game. Will edwards be the next kelly? too early to tell, but he's doing an ok Dilfer impersanation and Losman can't even claim that.

[PcA125]

i like this thread for its entertainment level. i use to disagree with everything TDummy use to say. but seeing those first two games by JP were worse than his first INT at New England and his horrible effort in Tampa.

i don't know how much more people need to see with Losman. i like the guy, but he's not going to get this team to win too many games. Edwards, hung with the same OC, seems to at least get the D off the field and puts us in a position to win by managing a more effective game. Will edwards be the next kelly? too early to tell, but he's doing an ok Dilfer impersanation and Losman can't even claim that.

perfect. :clap:

[justasportsfan]

Selective stats are what the "lickers" use when they say how JP has improved.

look who's trying to change the subject after he got caught ;)

[TacklingDummy]

look who's trying to change the subject after he got caught ;)

How so?

[jamze132]

:duel:

[justasportsfan]

:duel:
not really. TD has been known to use only certain stats leaving out other stats to make his point look better. The wysian way. He brings up the 85.5 qb rating. NOT ME. And then when I point it out , he then tries to bring in RJ's rating intentionally forgettting to mention, Rob got his rating by taking sacks while JP got his throwing long and when he took a sack he always still tied to make something happen.

JP has an undrafted TE for his best OL . RJ had a perenial probowler and a great D to help him out. So it's apples and oranges.

[jamze132]

not really. TD has been known to use only certain stats leaving out other stats to make his point look better. The wysian way. He brings up the 85.5 qb rating. NOT ME. And then when I point it out , he then tries to bring in RJ's rating intentionally forgettting to mention, Rob got his rating by taking sacks while JP got his throwing long and when he took a sack he always still tied to make something happen.

JP has an undrafted TE for his best OL . RJ had a perenial probowler and a great D to help him out. So it's apples and oranges.
Dude just let me be a bystander on this one. If anyone sits back and listens to two devoted Bills fans argue about JP Losman and Rob Johnson, it is very funny! :sorry:

[TacklingDummy]

not really. TD has been known to use only certain stats leaving out other stats to make his point look better. The wysian way. He brings up the 85.5 qb rating. NOT ME. And then when I point it out , he then tries to bring in RJ's rating intentionally forgettting to mention, Rob got his rating by taking sacks while JP got his throwing long and when he took a sack he always still tied to make something happen.



Dude, the 85.5 rating I brought up WAS RJs QB rating as a Buffalo Bill.

What certain stats. am I leaving out?

[SABURZFAN]

selective stats is what TDummy learned from the school of wys. He took home a nice star. ;)


draz does the same thing,so what's the difference?

[SABURZFAN]

Dude, the 85.5 rating I brought up WAS RJs QB rating as a Buffalo Bill.

What certain stats. am I leaving out?


:laughter:


the stats for Licker excuses.

[SABURZFAN]

look who's trying to change the subject after he got caught ;)



:laughter:


you got owned.

[churchinski]

So last year after the bye-week he looked good. This season he looks just as bad as Edwards does, what's your point?

the point is mysery loves company

TE looks bad only because losman is a bust

so JP fans want TE to be a bust too


TE has 2 count em , two nfl starts and he's a rookie