Denver's Defense [Archive] - BillsZone.com

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 09:59 AM

Passing Defense ranked #1.

Overthrowing a wide open Evans for a TD helps Denvers ranking.

streetkings01

10-17-2007, 10:06 AM

The Bills have that tendency to pad other teams stats!

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 10:08 AM

Ranked #18. What was JP's excuse again?

Passing Defense ranked #1.

lol. There's your answer BF1. Anymore questions that you have to try and attempt to make JP look bad, please feel free to ask and TDummy will ruin it for you. :snicker:

LtBillsFan66

10-17-2007, 10:12 AM

Friggin TD. :snicker:

Forward_Lateral

10-17-2007, 10:13 AM

If they are 1 in pass D, what are they, worst in Run D?

Pride

10-17-2007, 10:14 AM

When JP stepped off of the field for the last time.. we were winning. Thats all you can ask of a QB when it comes down to it.

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 10:15 AM

Friggin TD. :snicker:

Sorry. I've heard the excuse 100's of times. It's been pounded into my head.

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 10:16 AM

If they are 1 in pass D, what are they, worst in Run D?

Yep, by almost 20 YPG. Buffalo has moved up to 25th. Woohoo

HAMMER

10-17-2007, 10:16 AM

When JP stepped off of the field for the last time.. we were winning. Thats all you can ask of a QB when it comes down to it.

That's the same argument I tried to use in supporting Rob Johnson in the home run throw up game.

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 10:17 AM

When JP stepped off of the field for the last time.. we were winning. Thats all you can ask of a QB when it comes down to it.

:lmao: That excuse didn't work for Edwards last week. When Trent stepped off the field the Bills were ahead by 8.

LtBillsFan66

10-17-2007, 10:17 AM

When JP stepped off of the field for the last time.. we were winning. Thats all you can ask of a QB when it comes down to it.

He limped off the field. Down 3-0 I believe.

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 10:19 AM

:lmao: That excuse didn't work for Edwards last week.
Edwards had 4 qtrs.

EDIT :BF1 is wrong. It was 0-0 when JP left the field but PAts were ready to score 3 due to a fumble recovered by pats.

Philagape

10-17-2007, 10:21 AM

Pass defense can be a misleading statistic. Teams haven't had to pass against Denver (they're dead last in attempts against) because their offense hasn't been scoring much (27th). In average yards per pass against, Denver is 22nd.
Last year the No. 1 pass defense was the Raiders. Is it because their defense was that good, or because no one had to pass against such a crappy team?

Philagape

10-17-2007, 10:30 AM

Denver is giving up 7.6 yards per pass.

Same as us. And the Rams. And the Falcons. :ill:

Only six teams are worse.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=AE6765E87F119D4514D70596345EA069?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-s=PASSING_AVERAGE_YARDS&d-447263-n=1&season=2007&qualified=false&Submit=Find&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1

Michael82

10-17-2007, 10:47 AM

When JP stepped off of the field for the last time.. we were winning. Thats all you can ask of a QB when it comes down to it.
Excellent post! :bf1:

Gunzlingr

10-17-2007, 11:06 AM

:lmao: That excuse didn't work for Edwards last week. When Trent stepped off the field the Bills were ahead by 8.

How many of those points did he have a hand in scoring again? 3 our of 24 wasn't it?

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 11:15 AM

How many of those points did he have a hand in scoring again? 3 our of 24 wasn't it?

How many of the points did JP have a hand in scoring against Denver? 0 of 14 wasn't it?

mchurchfie

10-17-2007, 11:22 AM

Edwards had 4 qtrs.

EDIT :BF1 is wrong. It was 0-0 when JP left the field but PAts were ready to score 3 due to a fumble recovered by pats.
Right, after he didn't read the Cb blitz coming and got sacked resulting in him fumbling the ball.:up:

deepslant

10-17-2007, 11:30 AM

If JP had a decent, get a few first downs, pre-season then the first two game performances against the B brothers and Pitt would be discounted.

Instead, JP's body of work so far this season have been poor so there are no positive indicators.

When JP's "healthy" give him the reins. Otherwise, you will have a divided locker room regardless.

billsburgh

10-17-2007, 11:31 AM

Ranked #18. What was JP's excuse again?
it was the first game of the season and Jauron didnt give the first team Offense enough time in the preseason

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 11:31 AM

Right, after he didn't read the Cb blitz coming and got sacked resulting in him fumbling the ball.:up:
exactly, the blitz Lynch didn't pick up :D

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 11:33 AM

When JP's "healthy" give him the reins. Otherwise, you will have a divided locker room regardless.

It will only be divided if the Bills offense continues to struggle due to bad play from the QB. Then in that case, neither of them will be the answer.

churchinski

10-17-2007, 11:33 AM

i had to check in to see if the lickers were still crying

and sure enough

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 11:35 AM

exactly, the blitz Lynch didn't pick up :D

That's what you get when you have the same guy teaching Lynch how to throw a block that taught McGahee how to throw a block.

One thing about the "Lickers" they drill excuses in your head so that you don't forget them. :snicker:

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 11:37 AM

That's what you get when you have the same guy teaching Lynch how to throw a block that taught McGahee how to throw a block.

One thing about the "Lickers" they drill excuses in your head so that you don't forget them. :snicker:
are you talking about the DF lickers. Yeah. Til' today they'r e making excuses :snicker:

SquishDaFish

10-17-2007, 11:41 AM

Cant people stop making this gay threads! Its getting VERY VERY VERY OLD! Give it up we all heard the arguments now.

Philagape

10-17-2007, 11:45 AM

Cant people stop making this gay threads! Its getting VERY VERY VERY OLD! Give it up we all heard the arguments now.

Actually I found this thread very useful. I didn't realize that Denver's ranking was misleading until I looked it up. It can no longer be used as an excuse.

deepslant

10-17-2007, 11:46 AM

It will only be divided if the Bills offense continues to struggle due to bad play from the QB. Then in that case, neither of them will be the answer.

Good point.

mchurchfie

10-17-2007, 11:47 AM

exactly, the blitz Lynch didn't pick up :DIts JP's responsibility to see it just as much. If he sees a Cb vacating his area to blitz then he has to hit the open receiver that the cb was supposed to be covering. Jp didn't have a clue, he was too busy staring down the receiver on the other side.:up:

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 11:58 AM

Its JP's responsibility to see it just as much. If he sees a Cb vacating his area to blitz then he has to hit the open receiver that the cb was supposed to be covering. Jp didn't have a clue, he was too busy staring down the receiver on the other side.:up:
did you see me disagree with you in an earlier post?

mchurchfie

10-17-2007, 12:01 PM

did you see me disagree with you in an earlier post?
You were trying get Jp off the hook.:D

justasportsfan

10-17-2007, 12:06 PM

You were trying get Jp off the hook.:D
nope. I was the one who mentioned the fumble, didn't I?. Could've just said we were 0-0 when Jp left the field. Who do you think I am. TDummy? Wys? :D

raphael120

10-17-2007, 12:30 PM

I'm sorry, i dont care how good your defense is, if your QB is good, he will make plays for you. even arizona beat the steelers with frickin leinart and warner in. im tired of "well he played against a good team" being used as an excuse.

I DONT CARE!

if you want this team to be good, then we have to have a QB that plays GOOD against GOOD teams and not GOOD against BAD teams!

Gunzlingr

10-17-2007, 01:13 PM

How many of the points did JP have a hand in scoring against Denver? 0 of 14 wasn't it?

I am not talking about what JP has or hasn't done. You are the one sucking off Edwards for 1 offense drive, and blaming the loss on the D.

camelcowboy

10-17-2007, 01:20 PM

I am not talking about what JP has or hasn't done. You are the one sucking off Edwards for 1 offense drive, and blaming the loss on the D. Considering the Special teams has scored most of the bills points both your arguements hold little water

Gunzlingr

10-17-2007, 01:30 PM

Considering the Special teams has scored most of the bills points both your arguements hold little water

I was talking about the Dallas game that TD said was all the Defense's fault for losing. The D scored twice, special teams once, and the offense took home a measley field goal.

camelcowboy

10-17-2007, 01:33 PM

I was talking about the Dallas game that TD said was all the Defense's fault for losing. The D scored twice, special teams once, and the offense took home a measley field goal. Coaches blew that game, a running play on third down and a field goal we would have won that game. Edwards moved the chains and kept the defense rested, Dallas was the better team you let them hang around and don't put up the points they'll catch up.

TacklingDummy

10-17-2007, 01:50 PM

I was talking about the Dallas game that TD said was all the Defense's fault for losing. .

That's funny, I swore I posted Trents terrible pass for an INT was one of the reason the Bills lost. Nice try.

Gunzlingr

10-17-2007, 01:54 PM

Edwards moved the chains and kept the defense rested, Dallas was the better team you let them hang around and don't put up the points they'll catch up.

During the first half maybe.

evol4276

10-17-2007, 02:04 PM

good god its week 7 now i think there are other teams that add to their pass d-rating now besides 1 game of buffalo..