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Mr. Cynical
10-20-2007, 11:59 AM
Let's take a trip down TD lane...

<TABLE _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=majorHeader _extended="true"><TD class=colors colSpan=5 _extended="true">2005 - Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TH class=rdTD _extended="true">Rd</TH><TH class=selTD _extended="true">Sel #</TH><TH class=playerTD _extended="true">Player</TH><TH class=positionTD _extended="true">Position</TH><TH _extended="true">School</TH></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">55</TD><TD _extended="true">Roscoe Parrish</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">Miami (Fla.)</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">86</TD><TD _extended="true">Kevin Everett</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">TE</TD><TD _extended="true">Miami (Fla.)</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">122</TD><TD _extended="true">Duke Preston</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">C</TD><TD _extended="true">Illinois</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">5</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">156</TD><TD _extended="true">Eric King</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DB</TD><TD _extended="true">Wake Forest</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">197</TD><TD _extended="true">Justin Geisinger</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">G</TD><TD _extended="true">Vanderbilt</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">236</TD><TD _extended="true">Lionel Gates</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">RB</TD><TD _extended="true">Louisville</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--10px Separator-->

<TABLE _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=majorHeader _extended="true"><TD class=colors colSpan=5 _extended="true">2004 - Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TH class=rdTD _extended="true">Rd</TH><TH class=selTD _extended="true">Sel #</TH><TH class=playerTD _extended="true">Player</TH><TH class=positionTD _extended="true">Position</TH><TH _extended="true">School</TH></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">1</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">13</TD><TD _extended="true">Lee Evans</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">Wisconsin</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">1</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">22</TD><TD _extended="true">J.P. Losman</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">QB</TD><TD _extended="true">Tulane</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">74</TD><TD _extended="true">Tim Anderson</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DT</TD><TD _extended="true">Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">109</TD><TD _extended="true">Tim Euhus</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">TE</TD><TD _extended="true">Oregon State</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">207</TD><TD _extended="true">Dylan McFarland</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">T</TD><TD _extended="true">Montana</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">214</TD><TD _extended="true">Jonathan Smith</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">Georgia Tech</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--10px Separator-->

<TABLE _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=majorHeader _extended="true"><TD class=colors colSpan=5 _extended="true">2003 - Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TH class=rdTD _extended="true">Rd</TH><TH class=selTD _extended="true">Sel #</TH><TH class=playerTD _extended="true">Player</TH><TH class=positionTD _extended="true">Position</TH><TH _extended="true">School</TH></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">1</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">23</TD><TD _extended="true">Willis McGahee</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">RB</TD><TD _extended="true">Miami (Fla.)</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">48</TD><TD _extended="true">Chris Kelsay</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DE</TD><TD _extended="true">Nebraska</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">94</TD><TD _extended="true">Angelo Crowell</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">LB</TD><TD _extended="true">Virginia</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">111</TD><TD _extended="true">Terrence McGee</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DB</TD><TD _extended="true">Northwestern State-Louisiana</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">127</TD><TD _extended="true">Sam Aiken</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">North Carolina</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">5</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">151</TD><TD _extended="true">Ben Sobieski</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">G</TD><TD _extended="true">Iowa</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">187</TD><TD _extended="true">Lauvale Sape</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DT</TD><TD _extended="true">Utah</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">228</TD><TD _extended="true">Mario Haggan</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">LB</TD><TD _extended="true">Mississippi State</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--10px Separator-->

<TABLE _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=majorHeader _extended="true"><TD class=colors colSpan=5 _extended="true">2002 - Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TH class=rdTD _extended="true">Rd</TH><TH class=selTD _extended="true">Sel #</TH><TH class=playerTD _extended="true">Player</TH><TH class=positionTD _extended="true">Position</TH><TH _extended="true">School</TH></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">1</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">Mike Williams</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">T</TD><TD _extended="true">Texas</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">36</TD><TD _extended="true">Josh Reed</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">Louisiana State</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">61</TD><TD _extended="true">Ryan Denney</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DE</TD><TD _extended="true">Brigham Young</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">97</TD><TD _extended="true">Coy Wire</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">SS</TD><TD _extended="true">Stanford</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">5</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">139</TD><TD _extended="true">Justin Bannan</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DT</TD><TD _extended="true">Colorado</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">176</TD><TD _extended="true">Kevin Thomas</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">CB</TD><TD _extended="true">Nevada-Las Vegas</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">215</TD><TD _extended="true">Mike Pucillo</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">G</TD><TD _extended="true">Auburn</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">249</TD><TD _extended="true">Rodney Wright</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">--</TD><TD _extended="true">Fresno State</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">251</TD><TD _extended="true">Jarrett Ferguson</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">--</TD><TD _extended="true">Virginia Tech</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">260</TD><TD _extended="true">Dominique Stevenson</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">LB</TD><TD _extended="true">Tennessee</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--10px Separator-->

<TABLE _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=majorHeader _extended="true"><TD class=colors colSpan=5 _extended="true">2001 - Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TH class=rdTD _extended="true">Rd</TH><TH class=selTD _extended="true">Sel #</TH><TH class=playerTD _extended="true">Player</TH><TH class=positionTD _extended="true">Position</TH><TH _extended="true">School</TH></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">1</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">21</TD><TD _extended="true">Nate Clements</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">CB</TD><TD _extended="true">Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">46</TD><TD _extended="true">Aaron Schobel</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DE</TD><TD _extended="true">Texas Christian</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">2</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">58</TD><TD _extended="true">Travis Henry</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">HB</TD><TD _extended="true">Tennessee</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">76</TD><TD _extended="true">Ron Edwards</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DT</TD><TD _extended="true">Texas A&M</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">3</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">95</TD><TD _extended="true">Jonas Jennings</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">T</TD><TD _extended="true">Georgia</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">4</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">110</TD><TD _extended="true">Brandon Spoon</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">MLB</TD><TD _extended="true">North Carolina</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">5</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">144</TD><TD _extended="true">Marques Sullivan</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">T</TD><TD _extended="true">Illinois</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">178</TD><TD _extended="true">Tony Driver</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DB</TD><TD _extended="true">Notre Dame</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">195</TD><TD _extended="true">Dan O'Leary</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">TE</TD><TD _extended="true">Notre Dame</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">6</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">196</TD><TD _extended="true">Jimmy Williams</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">CB</TD><TD _extended="true">Vanderbilt</TD></TR><TR _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">214</TD><TD _extended="true">Reggie Germany</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">WR</TD><TD _extended="true">Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=rowAlt _extended="true"><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">7</TD><TD class=centeralign _extended="true">238</TD><TD _extended="true">Tyrone Robertson</TD><TD class=positionTD _extended="true">DT</TD><TD _extended="true">Georgia</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

SABURZFAN
10-20-2007, 12:10 PM
2001- that draft wasn't too bad.

2002- we could have had a better draft throwing darts at a board.

2003- a wasted 1st first round pick.we got a couple of decent players out of that draft.

2004- that was a bust draft.

2005- see year 2002

TacklingDummy
10-20-2007, 12:24 PM
And people wonder why the Bills have been struggling.

Illmatic15
10-20-2007, 12:29 PM
If only we had drafted Bryant Mckinnie instead of big Mike Williams.....

jpdex12
10-20-2007, 01:05 PM
We have 15 out of 42 of those players...not very good!

SABURZFAN
10-20-2007, 01:08 PM
And people wonder why the Bills have been struggling.



let's not forget that Butler tanked the 2000 draft as well.this explains why the Bills are going 8 years without a playoff appearance.

G. Host
10-20-2007, 01:45 PM
We have 15 out of 42 of those players...not very good!

If you look how many are still playing it does not look too bad regarding recognizing skills. It is the ability of front office and coaching staff to mesh which was the biggest problem and not one we have now.

odin
10-20-2007, 02:03 PM
I'm sure it doesn't look as bad if you compare with other teams. A good majority of draft picks do not work out.

STAMPY
10-20-2007, 02:15 PM
Why didn't you list 2006? It was a good draft... edwards, poz, lynch

bigbub2352
10-20-2007, 03:28 PM
wow- this shows why we are in the situation we r in, 10 players out of those draft classes still on our team, that is truly sad, and another reason why we should have kepth all the personnel guys after TD was fired good move marv

BidsJr
10-20-2007, 03:54 PM
Why didn't you list 2006? It was a good draft... edwards, poz, lynch


:wtf:

Luisito23
10-20-2007, 03:57 PM
LOL....




GO BILLS!!!!!!!

mybills
10-20-2007, 05:32 PM
Why didn't you list 2006? It was a good draft... edwards, poz, lynch
Is TD still here?

Mr. Cynical
10-20-2007, 06:17 PM
Why didn't you list 2006? It was a good draft... edwards, poz, lynch

See thread title.

Mr. Cynical
10-20-2007, 06:20 PM
We have 15 out of 42 of those players...not very good!

Don't forget to add in two failed head coaches, two failed OCs, two failed DCs and a failed "franchise QB" trade.

TD single handedly destroyed the Bills for most of this decade. Unfortunately, I don't see this turning around with the current FO either, at least not with Dick and Co. Maybe Marv gets a pass this time and hires a real HC next time in '08 when Dick is fired.

colin
10-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Don't forget to add in two failed head coaches, FOUR failed OCs, one failed DCs and TWO failed "franchise QB" trades.

TD single handedly destroyed the Bills for most of this decade. Unfortunately, I don't see this turning around with the current FO either, at least not with Dick and Co. Maybe Marv gets a pass this time and hires a real HC next time in '08 when Dick is fired.

i corrected your post, it was even worse than you made it out to be (only had one failed DC tho, dick LeBeau was great, but left rather than failed).

Mr. Cynical
10-20-2007, 06:54 PM
i corrected your post, it was even worse than you made it out to be (only had one failed DC tho, dick LeBeau was great, but left rather than failed).

Thanks and good point about LeBeau...

Mr. Cynical
10-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Interesting....looking at that list he only took 6 olinemen in 5 full drafts, and the ones he did pick sucked. Not that hard to realize why the offensive line was so putrid.

djjimkelly
10-20-2007, 07:31 PM
And people wonder why the Bills have been struggling.


no its all losmans fault

camelcowboy
10-20-2007, 07:54 PM
signing Milloy, Sam Adams, Jeff freaken posey, Troy Vincent, trading for Bledsoe

Not signing: winfield, P.williams,

this guy was awful

jamze132
10-20-2007, 09:55 PM
So say the Bills move to LA. Then a couple years later, a rich bastard misses the Bills, so he brings a team back to Buffalo. Everyone is all excited about Bills football, we are on top of the world, and nothing can bring us down... until the new bastard owner introduces Tom Donahoe as the President/GM! I would seriously not cheer for Buffalo.

camelcowboy
10-20-2007, 10:18 PM
So say the Bills move to LA. Then a couple years later, a rich bastard misses the Bills, so he brings a team back to Buffalo. Everyone is all excited about Bills football, we are on top of the world, and nothing can bring us down... until the new bastard owner introduces Tom Donahoe as the President/GM! I would seriously not cheer for Buffalo.I would! TD would get him self fired in no time. Better to have a team then stop cheering because of a moron.

eyedog
10-21-2007, 07:38 AM
I honestly believe we could get a consensus on this board and draft better than Donasuck.

SABURZFAN
10-21-2007, 07:31 PM
I honestly believe we could get a consensus on this board and draft better than Donasuck.


we have.