Losman question from a Tulane U alum

[TunaFanForever]

First off, when Losman was drafted in the first round by your team, I got ESTASTIC(Tulane has a very good athletic program, but they're not exactly SEC, USC, etc Top 10 material, so first day picks don't come very often-Patrick Ramsey was also a #1 pick 2 years prior).

Anyhow-I'm somewhat dissapointed he hasn't fared well here. What has been his downfall in Buffalo? Could y'all elaberate on this?

Thanks in advance for your input!

[justasportsfan]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

What has been his downfall in Buffalo?

He got drafted by buffalo.

[mybills]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

He got drafted by buffalo.

Pretty much!

They don't give QB's a full 4 years/64 starts. JP had 2y+2games/26 starts.
Since Kelly, that's how it's been. I suspect the trend will continue with Trent.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Losman has been ****ed around by bad coaches and an even worse owner. He'll catch one somewhere else.

[Bulldog]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Pretty much!

They don't give QB's a full 4 years/64 starts. JP had 2y+2games/26 starts.
Since Kelly, that's how it's been. I suspect the trend will continue with Trent.

Where are you coming up with this theory that a QB should get 4 years/64 starts? Most teams are not willing to wait that long for a QB to develop. Call me crazy, but four years is a long time.

[baalworship]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Bad coaching...Losman might still turn out pretty well if ends up in the right place. He was very unpolished when drafted.

[Inetpub]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

your perspective blames the Buffalo bills. Start with looking at the man. He sucks.

When you do that, then you can look at the Buffalo Bills.

[mybills]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Where are you coming up with this theory that a QB should get 4 years/64 starts? Most teams are not willing to wait that long for a QB to develop. Call me crazy, but four years is a long time.

Most 1st round draft picks certainly do get that long, but the point was that even though he's been here for 4 years, he only had 26 starts - not 64 which = 16 starts per year.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

He simply wasn't good enough.

Short, simple, to the point answer.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

They don't give QB's a full 4 years/64 starts.

Brady didn't need 64 starts to win the Super Bowl.
Roethlisberger didn't need 64 starts to win the Super Bowl.
Carson Palmer didn't need 64 starts to get the Bengals to the playoffs for the first time since 1990.
Rex Grossman, with all his flaws, didn't need 64 starts to get the Bears to the Super Bowl.
Philip Rivers didn't need 64 starts to lead his team to a division title.
Peyton Manning? Maybe, but I think he started catching on by his third season.

Your point is?

[mybills]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Your point is?

not worth explaining to someone who will just miss it once again.

[Bufftp]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Brady didn't need 64 starts to win the Super Bowl.
Roethlisberger didn't need 64 starts to win the Super Bowl.
Carson Palmer didn't need 64 starts to get the Bengals to the playoffs for the first time since 1990.
Rex Grossman, with all his flaws, didn't need 64 starts to get the Bears to the Super Bowl.
Philip Rivers didn't need 64 starts to lead his team to a division title.
Peyton Manning? Maybe, but I think he started catching on by his third season.

Your point is?

and what do those teams have that Lossman has never had here?
actually a whole laundry list of things.
Never the less it's edwards team now.

To answer Tuna's question,
Lossman just has had bad timing,
He was drafted by a team with bad coaches and bad talent at almost every position. Now the coaches have been changed and are still bad, the front office is slowly upgrading the talent but may have missfired on the O-line aquisitions.

He will catch on with someone else.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

He hasn't been here 4 years... This is his 4th season.

That's a debating tool used by the other side.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Losman never had any continuity with any offensive system plus a revolving OL. In his first year under Fairchild he played like Rivers is playing now under a new system under Norv Turner and yet Rivers has better talent and Ol aorund him.

Eli is playing with the same HC and is growing with the team.

Ben had Cowher and same system and OL for the most part.

So my answer remains. JP got screwed the minute he got drafted byt the bills . The only continuity this organization has is that we're continuing to rebuild. Even in JP's 4th year the bills are still rebuilding.

We will continue to do so once Evans leaves. By the time Lee's replacement in next years draft develops, TE will be off to another team and the rebuilding process continues.

[BAM]

Re: Losman question from a Tulane U alum

Bad coaches & mostly bad play

Besides a couple great games here and there against very bad teams, he never impressed me much.

None of the Bills QB's since #12 have impressed me that much though.