DB Mock Draft v3.0

[DraftBoy]

2 more weeks gone, time for another mock. Same as last time, only one round, no trades, based on current standings, comments and critcism wanted
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1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE/LB Derrick Harvey
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Keith Rivers
17. Washington-DE Quentin Groves
18. Seattle-WR Adarius Bowman
19. San Diego-LB James Lauranitis
20. Kansas City-OT Gosder Cherilus
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-CB Justin King
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-OT Ryan Clady
26. Jacksonville-CB Aqib Talib
27. Detroit-RB James Stewart
28. New York Giants-OT Micheal Oher
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

New Add-on Perdict how your team will finish out Day 1 based on this 1st Round! 1000 ZB's to whom I determine to have the best Day 1 draft.

[gr8slayer]

Dallas won't have the #31 pick :up:

[Mahdi]

I like Kelly @13 but any higher is too high for him. I havent seen him play much but I get the impression he's a bit more polished than Limas Sweed. What about Early Doucett?

[DraftBoy]

I like Kelly @13 but any higher is too high for him. I havent seen him play much but I get the impression he's a bit more polished than Limas Sweed. What about Early Doucett?
Is dropping because of his early season injuries, if he comes back and is unstoppable he'll be up there with Kelly.

[Mahdi]

Im so annoyed that NE will go deep into the playoffs, possibly win the superbowl and then choose in the top 7 most likely.

[DraftBoy]

Dallas won't have the #31 pick :up:

This isnt based on projects but current standings, but in the name of being a realist you cant have two AFC teams at 31 and 32

[gr8slayer]

This isnt based on projects but current standings, but in the name of being a realist you cant have two AFC teams at 31 and 32
Ah, I was under the impression that you were projecting the standings. I stand corrected.

[DraftBoy]

Ah, I was under the impression that you were projecting the standings. I stand corrected.

No big deal

[PECKERWOOD]

I don't want a WR in the first, we can grab a good possession WR in the 2nd-3rd round. We still have Lee Evans, I want somebody who can compliment him, not take his job over come contract year. I'd much rather us take a CB, DT, OG or LB in the 1st. Maybe a guy like Antoine Cason would be a good fit?

[DraftBoy]

I don't want a WR in the first, we can grab a good possession WR in the 2nd-3rd round. We still have Lee Evans, I want somebody who can compliment him, not take his job over come contract year. I'd much rather us take a CB, DT, OG or LB in the 1st. Maybe a guy like Antoine Cason would be a good fit?

Wouldnt be a bad pick, but there is no DT or OG worth that pick. You could go LB but a possession WR with size and goes over the middle is badly needed more than LB or DT at this point imo.

[PECKERWOOD]

Wouldnt be a bad pick, but there is no DT or OG worth that pick. You could go LB but a possession WR with size and goes over the middle is badly needed more than LB or DT at this point imo.

Are there any good TE's in this years draft? I don't want us to take a TE in round 1 but perhaps we could get a Zach Miller, Dallas Clark, Olsen or even a Chris Cooley somewhere on the 1st day. A good TE can really open up things in the middle for ya.

[justasportsfan]

are there any good safeties in next years draft. Whitner might be gone as well now that he's mouthing off. Marv doesn't like players that mouth off.

[alohabillsfan]

We have to look at our division specifically NE we are no where near where we need to be offensively we need weapons period! I am all for big fast WR round 1 and big fast TE round 2! Names to be provided later!

[PECKERWOOD]

are there any good safeties in next years draft. Whitner might be gone as well now that he's mouthing off. Marv doesn't like players that mouth off.

:lmao:

[DraftBoy]

are there any good safeties in next years draft. Whitner might be gone as well now that he's mouthing off. Marv doesn't like players that mouth off.

Safety:
1. Jamar Adams-Michigan
2. Quintin Demps-UTEP
3. Marcus Griffin-Texas
4. Jonathan Heffney-Tennessee
5. Craig Steltz-LSU
6. Chris Horton-UCLA
7. Josh Barrett-Arizona State
8. Tom Zbikowski-Notre Dame
9. Jamie Silva-Boston College
10. Marcus Watts-Kansas State
Next: Joe Fields (Syracuse), Jamal Lewis (Georgia Tech), Anthony Scirotto (Penn State)

[DraftBoy]

Are there any good TE's in this years draft? I don't want us to take a TE in round 1 but perhaps we could get a Zach Miller, Dallas Clark, Olsen or even a Chris Cooley somewhere on the 1st day. A good TE can really open up things in the middle for ya.

TE:
1. Martin Rucker-Missouri
2. Fred Davis-USC
3. Jon Carlson-Notre Dame
4. Jacob Tamme-Kentucky
5. Dustin Keller-Purdue
6. Kory Sperrey-Colorado St
7. Kellen Davis-Michigan St
8. Tom Santi-Virginia
9. John Terenshinski-Wake Forest
10. Josh Collins-Washington St
Next: Joe Jon Finley (Oklahoma), Chris Hopkins (Toledo), Darius Hill (Ball St)
DI-AA (FCS): Matt Chapman (Dayton)
DII: Brandon Hill (Mercyhurst)
DIII: Micheal Harris (Westminster)

[PECKERWOOD]

I really like that Kellen Davis from Michigan St., I see he is #7 on your list.
As for safety (not like we're going to take one.. ), Griffin is going to be a playmaker in the NFL.

[Mahdi]

IMO if we are picking 13. We could cover any of our weak spots.


WR: Malcolm Kelly

DT: Sedrick Ellis USC. Perfect fit for our D.

CB: Antoine Cason, Malcolm Jenkins Ohio St., Justin King Penn St.( Although IMO, considering the needs of our Cover 2 and what we have already at CB I wouldnt draft CB on the first day.)

TE: Fred Davis TE USC. I would be really happy with this guy as our #1 pick. Can block and is a big time receiving threat.

[Mahdi]

Does Texas produce a DB named Griffin every year?

[PECKERWOOD]

Does Texas produce a DB named Griffin every year?

ahaha

It was Michael Griffin last year right?

[EDS]

2 more weeks gone, time for another mock. Same as last time, only one round, no trades, based on current standings, comments and critcism wanted
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1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE/LB Derrick Harvey
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Keith Rivers
17. Washington-DE Quentin Groves
18. Seattle-WR Adarius Bowman
19. San Diego-LB James Lauranitis
20. Kansas City-OT Gosder Cherilus
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-CB Justin King
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-OT Ryan Clady
26. Jacksonville-CB Aqib Talib
27. Detroit-RB James Stewart
28. New York Giants-OT Micheal Oher
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

New Add-on Perdict how your team will finish out Day 1 based on this 1st Round! 1000 ZB's to whom I determine to have the best Day 1 draft.

Here's to hoping Ellis drops one more spot! I am hoping a viable DT is available for the Bills in the first and that they pick up a number 2 type wide receiver in free agency, second and third rounder might have to be earmarked to center and guard.

[Mahdi]

ahaha

It was Michael Griffin last year right?
Yeah,,,, and Cedrick the year before.

[bigbub2352]

What if we took Poz's understuday at 12 Connor next to POz and Crowell, Ellison hasnt done anything since coming back, then go TE and WR and DT on day one

[Mahdi]

What if we took Poz's understuday at 12 Connor next to POz and Crowell, Ellison hasnt done anything since coming back, then go TE and WR and DT on day one
Connor is very similar to POZ. If they feel they need to upgrade Ellison (IMO I think he is playing well, nothing flashy but he gets the job done, is smart, and can cover well in the slot) then I would rather go after someone like Xavier Adibi. He's a prototypical cover 2 LB. A little undersized, fast, makes plays in the passing game, and can tackle real well. ANd he can be had in the second round as opposed to spending our first rounder on what is a strength of our team.

[mysticsoto]

are there any good safeties in next years draft. Whitner might be gone as well now that he's mouthing off. Marv doesn't like players that mouth off.

We might need to take a DT regardless. According to Op (before the season even started) McCargo is/was/will be a bust.

[mysticsoto]

Good job, DB. I have to say, I agree with alot of your mock. I'm curious, however. What if NO doesn't take Ellis and you have the choice of Ellis or Kelly? Who do you favor taking?

Just wanted to make it harder for ya'... :;

[Mahdi]

What you think of Desean Jackson DB? Definitely a playmaker with top end speed but he's kinda smallish.

[mysticsoto]

What you think of Desean Jackson DB? Definitely a playmaker with top end speed but he's kinda smallish.

That's my take also. We already have a speedster/playmaker, so I'd rather have a large, possession receiver, as apparently would DB. However, Fairchild might think differently since he likes a speedy WR attack. So you never know what he may recommend to Marv to get...

[Mahdi]

That's my take also. We already have a speedster/playmaker, so I'd rather have a large, possession receiver, as apparently would DB. However, Fairchild might think differently since he likes a speedy WR attack. So you never know what he may recommend to Marv to get...
These big guys worry me though sometimes. Lots of them dominate in college because of size but cant run routes. Put it this way, lets say we had Lee Evans and Steve Smith,,,,, would that help our O?

[DraftBoy]

Good job, DB. I have to say, I agree with alot of your mock. I'm curious, however. What if NO doesn't take Ellis and you have the choice of Ellis or Kelly? Who do you favor taking?

Just wanted to make it harder for ya'... :;

Id take Ellis, even with Kyle Williams emergence yesterday we need a consistent DT inside as as good as McCargo has been this year he does dissapear and I think Ellis has Harris type skills, but we'll have to see how it translates. There are other WR with size in Round 2 and 3, some names could be....Jordy Nelson (KSU), Marcus Monk (Ark), Steve Johnson (UK), and James Hardy (IND, if he declares). All would work very well as #2 guys.

[DraftBoy]

What you think of Desean Jackson DB? Definitely a playmaker with top end speed but he's kinda smallish.

Ted Ginn with more polish, he has not exploded this year as a WR like many expected, he does make some spectacular catches from time to time, but his routes need word, and he needs to be more consistent. He'd be dangerous for any team but I wouldnt expect him to contribute as an over the middle possession guy. He's a speedster, deep ball guy. Id pass if I was Buffalo.

[DraftBoy]

These big guys worry me though sometimes. Lots of them dominate in college because of size but cant run routes. Put it this way, lets say we had Lee Evans and Steve Smith,,,,, would that help our O?

Yes but its not because of size, Smith runs excellent routes and works the middle of the field. Something I wish Lee would do more often.

[DraftBoy]

What if we took Poz's understuday at 12 Connor next to POz and Crowell, Ellison hasnt done anything since coming back, then go TE and WR and DT on day one

Personally I like LB's like Phillip Wheeler and Beau Butler better than Connor

[Mahdi]

Personally I like LB's like Phillip Wheeler and Beau Butler better than Connor
Wheeler from GT would be a great addition also.

[mysticsoto]

These big guys worry me though sometimes. Lots of them dominate in college because of size but cant run routes. Put it this way, lets say we had Lee Evans and Steve Smith,,,,, would that help our O?

Steve Smith would help our O alongside Evans b'cse he is an outstanding receiver. At this point, I think we need a big guy that can run into the endzone and do the jump ball, etc. There are some decent prospects and as high as we are going to pick, the Bills should have access to some of the top skilled players out there. That being said, if we go DT in the 1st rd, we should still have some decent prospects available to us in the 2nd rd, though I'm guessing that this year, up to 5 or so WRs may be picked in the 1st rd - NOTE: That was off the top of my head...and interestingly enough, I checked DB's mock and he also has 5 WRs going in the 1st. :D I think we are thinking alike on alot of these picks this year...

[mysticsoto]

DB, I only have slight changes from yours. Don't let the amt of red fool you. Alot of it has to do with once you make 1 change, it cascades downward in terms of names, but as you can see, alot of the positions themselves (except for 4 teams) didn't change for me. I think that's remarkable. Let's create our own Mel Kiper like draft scenarios/blogs/etc and make lots of money doing so. :D

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE Quentin Groves
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis (Sadly, this is likely given the current scenario...grrrr!!!)
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Derrick Harvey
17. Washington-DE Lawrence Jackson
18. Seattle-RB Jonathan Stewart
19. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
20. Kansas City-WR Adarius Bowman
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-OT Gosder Cherilus
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-LB James Lauranitis
26. Jacksonville-CB Justin King
27. Detroit-RB Steve Slaton
28. New York Giants-OT Ryan Clady
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

[justasportsfan]

We might need to take a DT regardless. According to Op (before the season even started) McCargo is/was/will be a bust.
Lay off OP. :mad: He and I will be around in case the homers here still try to enshrine TRENT into canton next year.

I never thought I'd be calling people here homers. :huh:

[DraftBoy]

DB, I only have slight changes from yours. Don't let the amt of red fool you. Alot of it has to do with once you make 1 change, it cascades downward in terms of names, but as you can see, alot of the positions themselves (except for 4 teams) didn't change for me. I think that's remarkable. Let's create our own Mel Kiper like draft scenarios/blogs/etc and make lots of money doing so. :D

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE Quentin Groves
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis (Sadly, this is likely given the current scenario...grrrr!!!)
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Derrick Harvey
17. Washington-DE Lawrence Jackson
18. Seattle-RB Jonathan Stewart
19. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
20. Kansas City-WR Adarius Bowman
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-OT Gosder Cherilus
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-LB James Lauranitis
26. Jacksonville-CB Justin King
27. Detroit-RB Steve Slaton
28. New York Giants-OT Ryan Clady
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

Im always up for making money lets do it!! Only switch you made that leaves me questioning it is why would Denver take Harvey? He is a 3-4 OLB, 4-3 DE. They play the 4-3 and already have a few good DE's. Make their pick Jackson (who I cant believe I left out of Rd 1), send Rivers to Washington and Harvery to SD and I think it works.

Ok and I lied I dont see Slaton as a 1st rounder and also Detroit has a young slasher back in Brian Calhoun from Wisconsin.

[Mahdi]

DB, I only have slight changes from yours. Don't let the amt of red fool you. Alot of it has to do with once you make 1 change, it cascades downward in terms of names, but as you can see, alot of the positions themselves (except for 4 teams) didn't change for me. I think that's remarkable. Let's create our own Mel Kiper like draft scenarios/blogs/etc and make lots of money doing so. :D

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE Quentin Groves
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis (Sadly, this is likely given the current scenario...grrrr!!!)
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Derrick Harvey
17. Washington-DE Lawrence Jackson
18. Seattle-RB Jonathan Stewart
19. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
20. Kansas City-WR Adarius Bowman
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-OT Gosder Cherilus
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-LB James Lauranitis
26. Jacksonville-CB Justin King
27. Detroit-RB Steve Slaton
28. New York Giants-OT Ryan Clady
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT
I dont think Groves would go ahead of Calais Campbell. He's too much of a freak. Possibly the next Peppers.

[DraftBoy]

I dont think Groves would go ahead of Calais Campbell. He's too much of a freak. Possibly the next Peppers.

In Mystic defense Campbell is having a down year and Groves has been stellar when healthy.

[mysticsoto]

Im always up for making money lets do it!! Only switch you made that leaves me questioning it is why would Denver take Harvey? He is a 3-4 OLB, 4-3 DE. They play the 4-3 and already have a few good DE's. Make their pick Jackson (who I cant believe I left out of Rd 1), send Rivers to Washington and Harvery to SD and I think it works.

Ok and I lied I dont see Slaton as a 1st rounder and also Detroit has a young slasher back in Brian Calhoun from Wisconsin.

Harvey is perhaps a little questionable, but Denver doesn't seem to be happy with their DEs...well, Dumervil is doing okay, but needs somebody opposite him who can produce more. I think he should be able to make the transition to DE. That said, I could see them going for Jackson also and scenario you describe above sounds logical.

Detroit needs RBs that will help. Slaton is faster than Calhoun - though a similar styled RB may not appeal to them. There aren't many others that I could substitute here, however. I have your Stewart choice taken already. Maybe a CB instead like...Jenkins? But playing the cover 2, I doubt they'd be interested in a CB in the 1st rd...

[mysticsoto]

In Mystic defense Campbell is having a down year and Groves has been stellar when healthy.

I'm not a fan of really tall DEs. In my opinion, it is easier to get leverage on them than the other way around. He may excel in college, but in the NFL, they will use his height to get leverage under him and push him toward a direction they want him to go. I think it will hinder him a bit more than it does now.

Note that I'm not saying he can't succeed. Just that in the NFL, that will be a negative for him and he may need to take some time to adjust on how to deal with that.

[NJFINSFAN1]

2 more weeks gone, time for another mock. Same as last time, only one round, no trades, based on current standings, comments and critcism wanted
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1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE/LB Derrick Harvey
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Keith Rivers
17. Washington-DE Quentin Groves
18. Seattle-WR Adarius Bowman
19. San Diego-LB James Lauranitis
20. Kansas City-OT Gosder Cherilus
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-CB Justin King
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-OT Ryan Clady
26. Jacksonville-CB Aqib Talib
27. Detroit-RB James Stewart
28. New York Giants-OT Micheal Oher
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

New Add-on Perdict how your team will finish out Day 1 based on this 1st Round! 1000 ZB's to whom I determine to have the best Day 1 draft.

Good draft, although the Falcons will not pass on Brohm.

[eyedog]

Can't see Phillips at #2.

[PECKERWOOD]

Good draft, although the Falcons will not pass on Brohm.

I agree, nice observation.

[Illmatic15]

OT Gosder Cherilus is a beast, grab him!

[LtFinFan66]

I thought you didn't project underclassmen DB??

[DraftBoy]

I thought you didn't project underclassmen DB??

I dont rank underclassmen until they declare Ill mock them up until the final lists come out, I dont usually put guys in the mock that Im not relatively sure about however Clady is a big question mark this year for leaving early.

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

Good job, I think Brian Brohm is the first QB taken though.

[mysticsoto]

Good job, I think Brian Brohm is the first QB taken though.
Maybe, maybe not. There's questions as to whether he's a product of the system or not. Some believe yes, some believe no...

In either case, he still ranks highly and will be among the top QBs chosen...

[LtFinFan66]

I dont rank underclassmen until they declare Ill mock them up until the final lists come out, I dont usually put guys in the mock that Im not relatively sure about however Clady is a big question mark this year for leaving early.I was wondering since you have 2 Buckeye Jr.'s projected in your first round??

[Oaf]

We've put off the TE position since Riemersma. Time to cut our losses and draft one that will be a threat for years to come. Royal, Gaines, Neufeld, Shouman? Disgusting.

I've never said this before in my life, but I'd be happy to draft a tight end in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Wow, still can't believe I said that.

[mysticsoto]

We've put off the TE position since Riemersma. Time to cut our losses and draft one that will be a threat for years to come. Royal, Gaines, Neufeld, Shouman? Disgusting.

I've never said this before in my life, but I'd be happy to draft a tight end in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Wow, still can't believe I said that.

I disagree. I think this is a weak TE class and I rather focus on either DT or a very decent WR to complement Lee Evans...evan a CB would be passable for 1st rd, though I rather a speedy one maybe in the 3rd rd if given the choice...

[DraftBoy]

Harvey is perhaps a little questionable, but Denver doesn't seem to be happy with their DEs...well, Dumervil is doing okay, but needs somebody opposite him who can produce more. I think he should be able to make the transition to DE. That said, I could see them going for Jackson also and scenario you describe above sounds logical.

Detroit needs RBs that will help. Slaton is faster than Calhoun - though a similar styled RB may not appeal to them. There aren't many others that I could substitute here, however. I have your Stewart choice taken already. Maybe a CB instead like...Jenkins? But playing the cover 2, I doubt they'd be interested in a CB in the 1st rd...

Ive seen no indication from Denver that they are unhappy with their DE's, Dumervil has 6 sacks this year and remember they just drafted Jarvis Moss last year so they'll give him more time before they go DE again in Rd 1. They could really use a DT but this class is kinda hit and miss on that.

Im not a huge fan on Slaton, I dont think he's worth a 1st rounder and I dont think he'll ever be more than a 3rd down type of back. He can barely stay healthy in college, I shudder as to the thought of what the NFL might do to him. Detroit could use some CB's whether the play cover 2 or not they need some help there.

[DraftBoy]

I'm not a fan of really tall DEs. In my opinion, it is easier to get leverage on them than the other way around. He may excel in college, but in the NFL, they will use his height to get leverage under him and push him toward a direction they want him to go. I think it will hinder him a bit more than it does now.

Note that I'm not saying he can't succeed. Just that in the NFL, that will be a negative for him and he may need to take some time to adjust on how to deal with that.

Ive seen this opinion alot recently and I cant say I really find any fault in it. It is my opinion that if you are going to be as tall as Campbell, you damn well better be strong as an ox, which he is. Campbell has struggled so far this year and it has me wondering if he's due for a drop. He's not having a Quentin Moses type year but he's definitely not setting the world on fire like many thought he would.

[DraftBoy]

Good draft, although the Falcons will not pass on Brohm.


They will if Petrino is no longer there

[DraftBoy]

Can't see Phillips at #2.

Its a definite reach pick but Rams fans and team love this kid and they badly need the help there. We'll know more when it gets closer to April.

[DraftBoy]

OT Gosder Cherilus is a beast, grab him!
He is very quietly climbing up boards, while Matt Ryan may be getting all the press coverage Cherilus is one of if not the biggest reason for Ryan's success.

[DraftBoy]

Good job, I think Brian Brohm is the first QB taken though.

With Brohm what you see is what you get and thats not bad, hell Id take it on this team, but he's pretty much reached his ceiling, I see more from Woodson to be honest. I dont think Brohm should be the first QB selected.

[DraftBoy]

I was wondering since you have 2 Buckeye Jr.'s projected in your first round??
Its so hard to do a mock and have it seem 1/2 realistic without including jrs, it would make it infinitely harder and 3/4 of it would need to be changed come February.

[DraftBoy]

We've put off the TE position since Riemersma. Time to cut our losses and draft one that will be a threat for years to come. Royal, Gaines, Neufeld, Shouman? Disgusting.

I've never said this before in my life, but I'd be happy to draft a tight end in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Wow, still can't believe I said that.

I disagree, this is a deep class esp if Chase Coffman and Martelius Bennett leave a year early. Alot of people are saying guys like Rucker, Tamme, and Carlson wont be going till rd 2-4 which to me is the ideal time to draft a TE, you could even get Kellen Davis from Michigan St prolly in Round 5. Any of those 6 guys would be amazing pickups. But I would not go TE in Rd 1 or 2.

[DraftBoy]

I disagree. I think this is a weak TE class and I rather focus on either DT or a very decent WR to complement Lee Evans...evan a CB would be passable for 1st rd, though I rather a speedy one maybe in the 3rd rd if given the choice...


I also disagree with you this is a very strong TE class with 8-9 very draftable starting TE prospects if Bennett and Coffman leave early. Thats way more than usual.

[gr8slayer]

Bennett would be freaking awesome in a Bills jersey.

[DraftBoy]

Bennett would be freaking awesome in a Bills jersey.

He says he'll only leave early if he has a 1st round grade, so I dont think he'll be leaving and if he did I would only take him in Rd 2, he's no Vernon Davis, but similar to Kellen Winslow skill set wise.

[Mahdi]

I disagree, this is a deep class esp if Chase Coffman and Martelius Bennett leave a year early. Alot of people are saying guys like Rucker, Tamme, and Carlson wont be going till rd 2-4 which to me is the ideal time to draft a TE, you could even get Kellen Davis from Michigan St prolly in Round 5. Any of those 6 guys would be amazing pickups. But I would not go TE in Rd 1 or 2.
Well if we finally want an elite cant miss receiving TE we have to address it early. Whether its in the 1st round with someone like Fred Davis or in the second with Tamme or Carleson. People always say these guys will go late but then draft day comes and everyone jumps on them early. Receiving TEs that can block are gold to an offense.

[gr8slayer]

He says he'll only leave early if he has a 1st round grade, so I dont think he'll be leaving and if he did I would only take him in Rd 2, he's no Vernon Davis, but similar to Kellen Winslow skill set wise.
I'd take Winslow over Davis any day myself. But back on topic, he's also shown his dis-pleasure with the idea of Fran leaving so I wouldn't be surprised if he jumped ship after this year because Fran being fired is inevitable.

[DraftBoy]

Well if we finally want an elite cant miss receiving TE we have to address it early. Whether its in the 1st round with someone like Fred Davis or in the second with Tamme or Carleson. People always say these guys will go late but then draft day comes and everyone jumps on them early. Receiving TEs that can block are gold to an offense.

Honestly I think Davis is overrated with as high as some people are predicting he'll go. He's a 2nd Rounder to me.

[DraftBoy]

I'd take Winslow over Davis any day myself. But back on topic, he's also shown his dis-pleasure with the idea of Fran leaving so I wouldn't be surprised if he jumped ship after this year because Fran being fired is inevitable.

Give Vernon some time to emerge as a beast

I was not aware of Bennett displeasure with Fran's departure that would change things.

[gr8slayer]

Give Vernon some time to emerge as a beast

I was not aware of Bennett displeasure with Fran's departure that would change things.
Physically there's no doubt, I just don't see it as a TE. He gets three years just like any rookie but I'm still waiting to see that one "holy ****" play.

[User Manuel]

2 more weeks gone, time for another mock. Same as last time, only one round, no trades, based on current standings, comments and critcism wanted
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1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE/LB Derrick Harvey
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB Keith Rivers
17. Washington-DE Quentin Groves
18. Seattle-WR Adarius Bowman
19. San Diego-LB James Lauranitis
20. Kansas City-OT Gosder Cherilus
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-CB Justin King
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-OT Ryan Clady
26. Jacksonville-CB Aqib Talib
27. Detroit-RB James Stewart
28. New York Giants-OT Micheal Oher
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Mike Jenkins
32. New England-FORFEIT

New Add-on Perdict how your team will finish out Day 1 based on this 1st Round! 1000 ZB's to whom I determine to have the best Day 1 draft.

Why Malcolm Kelly over DeSean Jackson? I have often heard about the immense talent Jackson has and I have been impressed when I have seen him.

[mysticsoto]

I also disagree with you this is a very strong TE class with 8-9 very draftable starting TE prospects if Bennett and Coffman leave early. Thats way more than usual.

I think we may have a deeper TE class than usual, but strong? No. We have no elite TEs in this draft class that I can think of. There are a couple that will be serviceable in the mid rounds, but you have no Kellen Winslow/Vernon Davis/Shockey type TEs who are outstanding. In that sense, I do not consider it strong - strong and deep are not the same to me and I expect no TEs to go in the 1st rd...

[DraftBoy]

Why Malcolm Kelly over DeSean Jackson? I have often heard about the immense talent Jackson has and I have been impressed when I have seen him.

To me Jackson is nothing more than a more polished Ted Ginn and if you remember last season I was all over Ginn being overrated as a specialized player. Jackson has no ability to go over the middle and while his routes are slightly crisper his size is nothing special and his speed will become more neutralized in the NFL. I just dont like him as a fit for our team.

[DraftBoy]

I think we may have a deeper TE class than usual, but strong? No. We have no elite TEs in this draft class that I can think of. There are a couple that will be serviceable in the mid rounds, but you have no Kellen Winslow/Vernon Davis/Shockey type TEs who are outstanding. In that sense, I do not consider it strong - strong and deep are not the same to me and I expect no TEs to go in the 1st rd...

Strength to me is not in 1st round picks but in how many can become starters, I see 8-9 realistic ones.

[mysticsoto]

Ive seen no indication from Denver that they are unhappy with their DE's, Dumervil has 6 sacks this year and remember they just drafted Jarvis Moss last year so they'll give him more time before they go DE again in Rd 1. They could really use a DT but this class is kinda hit and miss on that.

Im not a huge fan on Slaton, I dont think he's worth a 1st rounder and I dont think he'll ever be more than a 3rd down type of back. He can barely stay healthy in college, I shudder as to the thought of what the NFL might do to him. Detroit could use some CB's whether the play cover 2 or not they need some help there.

You could say the same thing about Denver's LBs who seem to be doing fairly well and are "relatively young" for the most part. I don't think there will be a DT worth a 1st rd outside of Dorsey and Ellis. So I doubt they spend a pick there. Trade down is a possibility, but it gets too hairy to do those in mock drafts.

I suppose Detroit could go with a CB, but in a Cover 2, you usually don't draft a CB that high. But, I suppose that when you're team is doing well in other areas, you can afford to invest in any weakness position even though you likely don't need a shutdown CB in this style. They too might benefit from trading down, but I don't know Detroit well enough see where they might be able to make investments. I would strongly consider addressing RB in FA then to have a stronger runner to complement the backs they already have on their roster. Maybe in the 2nd rd they may consider someone like Ryan Torain, Tashard Choice, Matt Forte or even maybe someone like BenJavis Green-Ellis???

[DraftBoy]

You could say the same thing about Denver's LBs who seem to be doing fairly well and are "relatively young" for the most part. I don't think there will be a DT worth a 1st rd outside of Dorsey and Ellis. So I doubt they spend a pick there. Trade down is a possibility, but it gets too hairy to do those in mock drafts.

I suppose Detroit could go with a CB, but in a Cover 2, you usually don't draft a CB that high. But, I suppose that when you're team is doing well in other areas, you can afford to invest in any weakness position even though you likely don't need a shutdown CB in this style. They too might benefit from trading down, but I don't know Detroit well enough see where they might be able to make investments. I would strongly consider addressing RB in FA then to have a stronger runner to complement the backs they already have on their roster. Maybe in the 2nd rd they may consider someone like Ryan Torain, Tashard Choice, Matt Forte or even maybe someone like BenJavis Green-Ellis???


Good analysis I agree completely

[Mahdi]

You could say the same thing about Denver's LBs who seem to be doing fairly well and are "relatively young" for the most part. I don't think there will be a DT worth a 1st rd outside of Dorsey and Ellis. So I doubt they spend a pick there. Trade down is a possibility, but it gets too hairy to do those in mock drafts.



Actually I think LB and DT are both targets for the Broncos. Their inability to stuff the run is related to two factors. One being the lack of a dominating presencse in their interior DL and the other is a lack of a run stuffer in their LB corps.

I really dont think they are happy with having to move DJ Williams to MLB. He was a special player at OLB, now he is just above average. Also, Nate Webster is not that great of a player. Therefore adding a top end MLB moving DJ back to OLB and having Ian Gold on the other side gives them a real strong LB corps. There arent any positions on offense that need addressing, secondary is fine, that leaves DT. If they can get their hands on Ellis they will take him I think, if not, it should be the best LB available.

[DraftBoy]

Actually I think LB and DT are both targets for the Broncos. Their inability to stuff the run is related to two factors. One being the lack of a dominating presencse in their interior DL and the other is a lack of a run stuffer in their LB corps.

I really dont think they are happy with having to move DJ Williams to MLB. He was a specail player at OLB, now he is just above average. Also, Nate Webster is not that great of a player. Therefore adding a top end MLB moving DJ back to OLB and having Ian Gold on the other side gives them a real strong LB corps. There arent any positions on offense that need addressing, secondary is fine, that leaves DT. If they can get their hands on Ellis they will take him I think, if not, it should be the best LB available.
Good points!

[mysticsoto]

Actually I think LB and DT are both targets for the Broncos. Their inability to stuff the run is related to two factors. One being the lack of a dominating presencse in their interior DL and the other is a lack of a run stuffer in their LB corps.

I really dont think they are happy with having to move DJ Williams to MLB. He was a specail player at OLB, now he is just above average. Also, Nate Webster is not that great of a player. Therefore adding a top end MLB moving DJ back to OLB and having Ian Gold on the other side gives them a real strong LB corps. There arent any positions on offense that need addressing, secondary is fine, that leaves DT. If they can get their hands on Ellis they will take him I think, if not, it should be the best LB available.

Interesting. I don't follow Denver as closely as you apparently do, so I'll take your word for it. It sounds logical that Denver should then pick the highest MLB out there. So I'll change my mock draft slightly:

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE Quentin Groves
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis (Sadly, this is likely given the current scenario...grrrr!!!)
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB James Lauranitis
17. Washington-DE Lawrence Jackson
18. Seattle-RB Jonathan Stewart
19. San Diego-LB Derrick Harvey
20. Kansas City-WR Adarius Bowman
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-OT Gosder Cherilus
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-LB Keith Rivers
26. Jacksonville-CB Justin King
27. Detroit- CB Mike Jenkins
28. New York Giants-OT Ryan Clady
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Reggie Smith
32. New England-FORFEIT

[gr8slayer]

As much as I like Glenn Dorsey the idea of drafting a DT #1 over-all bothers me.

[DraftBoy]

Interesting. I don't follow Denver as closely as you apparently do, so I'll take your word for it. It sounds logical that Denver should then pick the highest MLB out there. So I'll change my mock draft slightly:

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-S Kenny Phillips
3. New York Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Andre Woodson
5. New England (From San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Oakland-DE Quentin Groves
7. Minnesotta-QB Brian Brohm
8. Cincinatti-DE Calais Campbell
9. Houston-OT Sam Baker
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan
11. Philadelphia-LB Dan Connor
12. New Orleans-DT Sedrick Ellis (Sadly, this is likely given the current scenario...grrrr!!!)
13. Buffalo-WR Malcolm Kelly
14. Arizona-DE Chris Long
15. Tampa Bay-WR DeSean Jackson
16. Denver-LB James Lauranitis
17. Washington-DE Lawrence Jackson
18. Seattle-RB Jonathan Stewart
19. San Diego-LB Derrick Harvey
20. Kansas City-WR Adarius Bowman
21. Dallas (From Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
22. Carolina-CB Antoine Cason
23. Baltimore-OT Gosder Cherilus
24. Tennessee-WR Limas Sweed
25. Pittsburgh-LB Keith Rivers
26. Jacksonville-CB Justin King
27. Detroit- CB Mike Jenkins
28. New York Giants-OT Ryan Clady
29. Green Bay-WR Early Doucet
30. San Francisco (From Indianapolis)-DT Frank Okam
31. Dallas-CB Reggie Smith
32. New England-FORFEIT

I dont think Lauraunitis goes before Rivers but based on Denver's needs it makes sense

[DraftBoy]

As much as I like Glenn Dorsey the idea of drafting a DT #1 over-all bothers me.

There is no clear cut #1 talent, though McFadden makes the strongest case for being one

[gr8slayer]

There is no clear cut #1 talent, though McFadden makes the strongest case for being one
I personally don't think that McFadden is Reggie Bush material (college wise). He's impressive but I'm not as impressed with him as I was Bush.

[DraftBoy]

I personally don't think that McFadden is Reggie Bush material (college wise). He's impressive but I'm not as impressed with him as I was Bush.

He's definitely not Reggie Bush he's a #1 back

[Mahdi]

He's definitely not Reggie Bush he's a #1 back
I agree. I think McFadden will have a better career as an RB than Bush will barring injury.

[gr8slayer]

I agree. I think McFadden will have a better career as an RB than Bush will barring injury.
It depends on what team he gets thrown on, Bush is in a pretty good situation right now and might turn out to be the real thing before too long.

[DraftBoy]

It depends on what team he gets thrown on, Bush is in a pretty good situation right now and might turn out to be the real thing before too long.

I wouldnt hold my breath on that

[Mahdi]

It depends on what team he gets thrown on, Bush is in a pretty good situation right now and might turn out to be the real thing before too long.
If Bush would just slow down a bit and hit the hole he would be hard to stop. He always feels like he needs to sprint through every play.

[gr8slayer]

If Bush would just slow down a bit and hit the hole he would be hard to stop. He always feels like he needs to sprint through every play.
Exactly. He has everything a RB needs to be successful physically, now he just needs to get the mental part of the game down.

[gr8slayer]

I wouldnt hold my breath on that
Well, I personally subscribe to the theory that each rookie gets three years before I make a final decision. He's got one more :up:

[DraftBoy]

Well, I personally subscribe to the theory that each rookie gets three years before I make a final decision. He's got one more :up:

Im not calling him a bust just saying I dont see him becoming a true #1 back

[gr8slayer]

Im not calling him a bust just saying I dont see him becoming a true #1 back
So far it's hard to disagree.

[mysticsoto]

There is no clear cut #1 talent, though McFadden makes the strongest case for being one

Even if McFadden was considered as strongly as Reggie Bush was, the likely top 2 draft pickers (Rams and Dolphins) don't need a RB with Ronnie Brown emerging and Steven Jackson still in the mix - and will be courting Glenn Dorsey heavily. Who else is so hot as to rise above him in terms of need? They both have QBs (Bulger for Rams, and Miami drafted Beck last year). Miami drafted Ginn and Rams have Holt for WR...and on defense, who might be considered a more talented prospect than Dorsey? I think if one team doesn't take Dorsey, the other will...and he will likely not get past the 1st two teams...

[DraftBoy]

Even if McFadden was considered as strongly as Reggie Bush was, the likely top 2 draft pickers (Rams and Dolphins) don't need a RB with Ronnie Brown emerging and Steven Jackson still in the mix - and will be courting Glenn Dorsey heavily. Who else is so hot as to rise above him in terms of need? They both have QBs (Bulger for Rams, and Miami drafted Beck last year). Miami drafted Ginn and Rams have Holt for WR...and on defense, who might be considered a more talented prospect than Dorsey? I think if one team doesn't take Dorsey, the other will...and he will likely not get past the 1st two teams...


St. Louis is very solid in the middle of their line with Wrotten, Ryan, and Carriker. They have great youth already there.

[Mahdi]

St. Louis is very solid in the middle of their line with Wrotten, Ryan, and Carriker. They have great youth already there.
Im not so sure about that actually.... for the last three years including this year St-Louis has been in the bottom 6 in rush defense. They have never had that one dominating DT that could stuff the run and rush the passer. If St-Louis has a shot at Dorsey they will definitely take it IMO. That way they could release the aging La'roi Glover and that would give them a young DT tandem in Dorsey and Carriker for the next 5 years with Ryan as a solid rotational sub. Wrotten has hardly played for the Rams at all. He has underachieved probably for the same reason he dropped down draft boards.

[DraftBoy]

Im not so sure about that actually.... for the last three years including this year St-Louis has been in the bottom 6 in rush defense. They have never had that one dominating DT that could stuff the run and rush the passer. If St-Louis has a shot at Dorsey they will definitely take it IMO. That way they could release the aging La'roi Glover and that would give them a young DT tandem in Dorsey and Carriker for the next 5 years with Ryan as a solid rotational sub. Wrotten has hardly played for the Rams at all. He has underachieved probably for the same reason he dropped down draft boards.

Alot of the indication that Im seeing is that Rams fans are happy with Carriker and Ryan starting, they do need help at DE, and at LB. But alot of their faithful are enamored with Kenny Phillips, even as high as #2

[Mahdi]

Alot of the indication that Im seeing is that Rams fans are happy with Carriker and Ryan starting, they do need help at DE, and at LB. But alot of their faithful are enamored with Kenny Phillips, even as high as #2
Yeah Kenny Philips would definitely fill a need but its a lot harder to find a player like Dorsey than it is to find Philips. Their DL has just never been a force and always seem to get pushed around and that hasnt changed this year. They could upgrade their run D and pass rush by getting Dorsey.

[eyedog]

Rams will go dorsey or Long before Phillips.

[DraftBoy]

Yeah Kenny Philips would definitely fill a need but its a lot harder to find a player like Dorsey than it is to find Philips. Their DL has just never been a force and always seem to get pushed around and that hasnt changed this year. They could upgrade their run D and pass rush by getting Dorsey.

I dont see Dorsey getting past Miami if they flip flp then we have a good topic for debate but as of now I dont see how its possible.

[Mahdi]

I dont see Dorsey getting past Miami if they flip flp then we have a good topic for debate but as of now I dont see how its possible.
You think Dorsey fits in a 3-4?

[DraftBoy]

Rams will go dorsey or Long before Phillips.
Long? Chris Long or Jake Long? I could see maybe Jake as a replacement for Pace bc Barron is a stud on the other end.

[DraftBoy]

You think Dorsey fits in a 3-4?

Yep, does Miami play a 3-4 full time?

[Mahdi]

Yep, does Miami play a 3-4 full time?
No I guess they dont. So I suppose Miami would take Dorsey in a second.

[mysticsoto]

I think Miami or the Rams would be crazy to let Dorsey go. He would be an upgrade at the position for both teams though Miami probably needs him more badly. That being said, I hope they don't get/take him. ;)

[eyedog]

Actually I was talking Jake.

[kernowboy]

I'd actually like to continue to look at defence in the draft as we soon to be bringing together a lot of great young guys

I would make a big pitch for Bryant Johnson as an experienced No2.

I would like to see Day1 of the Draft going

R1 Chris Long DE
R2 John Carlson TE
R3a Dre Moore DT
R3b Corey McKeon LB

on Day2, I'd like to see a Center for the future, a versatile OL who could play G and back up Peters like Rinehart of Northern Iowa and maybe a punt at someone like Zach Bowman CB, taken a flyer on in with a R5 or R6 selection if he's available

[DraftBoy]

Actually I was talking Jake.

Thats a definite possibility with their RT being Milford Brown, Id guess theyd either make Long learn a new posistion or move Barron back to RT. Im not sure how much they like Brown at this point.

[DraftBoy]

I'd actually like to continue to look at defence in the draft as we soon to be bringing together a lot of great young guys

I would make a big pitch for Bryant Johnson as an experienced No2.

I would like to see Day1 of the Draft going

R1 Chris Long DE
R2 John Carlson TE
R3a Dre Moore DT
R3b Corey McKeon LB

on Day2, I'd like to see a Center for the future, a versatile OL who could play G and back up Peters like Rinehart of Northern Iowa and maybe a punt at someone like Zach Bowman CB, taken a flyer on in with a R5 or R6 selection if he's available
He had a break out year in 2006, but has struggled this season which could do with Arizona's QB carousel.

Just say no to Chris Long he brings us nothing that Schoebel and Kelsay dont already have.

[mysticsoto]

Thats a definite possibility with their RT being Milford Brown, Id guess theyd either make Long learn a new posistion or move Barron back to RT. Im not sure how much they like Brown at this point.

Didn't the Rams take 2 OL last year? And Incognito is out now (on IR I think) but will be back next year. I doubt they take another OL in rd 1 next year on top of that...they will likely go defense, as I believe they are in the bottom 10 in rushing defense...

[DraftBoy]

Didn't the Rams take 2 OL last year? And Incognito is out now (on IR I think) but will be back next year. I doubt they take another OL in rd 1 next year on top of that...they will likely go defense, as I believe they are in the bottom 10 in rushing defense...
I dont think they are much better pass D wise either

[Mahdi]

I'd actually like to continue to look at defence in the draft as we soon to be bringing together a lot of great young guys

I would make a big pitch for Bryant Johnson as an experienced No2.

I would like to see Day1 of the Draft going

R1 Chris Long DE
R2 John Carlson TE
R3a Dre Moore DT
R3b Corey McKeon LB

on Day2, I'd like to see a Center for the future, a versatile OL who could play G and back up Peters like Rinehart of Northern Iowa and maybe a punt at someone like Zach Bowman CB, taken a flyer on in with a R5 or R6 selection if he's available
We have Schobel, Kelsay and Denney, Hargrove..... Why do we need Chris Long?