PDA

View Full Version : I went to NFL.com & found something amazing about our QB stats



Mitchy moo
10-30-2007, 03:05 PM
Tom Brady:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">190</TD><TD _extended="true">120</TD><TD _extended="true">63.2</TD><TD _extended="true">1,303</TD><TD _extended="true">6.9</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">61</TD><TD _extended="true">32.1</TD><TD _extended="true">15</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">81.1</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">190</TD><TD _extended="true">118</TD><TD _extended="true">62.1</TD><TD _extended="true">1,352</TD><TD _extended="true">7.1</TD><TD _extended="true">62</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">63</TD><TD _extended="true">33.2</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">97.1</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">156</TD><TD _extended="true">89</TD><TD _extended="true">57.1</TD><TD _extended="true">928</TD><TD _extended="true">5.9</TD><TD _extended="true">40</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">50</TD><TD _extended="true">32.1</TD><TD _extended="true">12</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">74.9</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">99</TD><TD _extended="true">62</TD><TD _extended="true">62.6</TD><TD _extended="true">670</TD><TD _extended="true">6.8</TD><TD _extended="true">49</TD><TD _extended="true">6</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">37</TD><TD _extended="true">37.4</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">90.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Peyton Manning:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">200</TD><TD _extended="true">134</TD><TD _extended="true">67.0</TD><TD _extended="true">1,608</TD><TD _extended="true">8.0</TD><TD _extended="true">68</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">78</TD><TD _extended="true">39.0</TD><TD _extended="true">21</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">96.4</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">200</TD><TD _extended="true">129</TD><TD _extended="true">64.5</TD><TD _extended="true">1,381</TD><TD _extended="true">6.9</TD><TD _extended="true">38</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">79</TD><TD _extended="true">39.5</TD><TD _extended="true">17</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">85.9</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">185</TD><TD _extended="true">114</TD><TD _extended="true">61.6</TD><TD _extended="true">1,419</TD><TD _extended="true">7.7</TD><TD _extended="true">60</TD><TD _extended="true">12</TD><TD _extended="true">6</TD><TD _extended="true">85</TD><TD _extended="true">45.9</TD><TD _extended="true">13</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">93.5</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">125</TD><TD _extended="true">82</TD><TD _extended="true">65.6</TD><TD _extended="true">1,023</TD><TD _extended="true">8.2</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">54</TD><TD _extended="true">43.2</TD><TD _extended="true">12</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">106.2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

JP:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">160</TD><TD _extended="true">103</TD><TD _extended="true">64.4</TD><TD _extended="true">1,329</TD><TD _extended="true">8.3</TD><TD _extended="true">83</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">53</TD><TD _extended="true">33.1</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">94.5</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">139</TD><TD _extended="true">89</TD><TD _extended="true">64.0</TD><TD _extended="true">860</TD><TD _extended="true">6.2</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">37</TD><TD _extended="true">26.6</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">78.2</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">93</TD><TD _extended="true">54</TD><TD _extended="true">58.1</TD><TD _extended="true">653</TD><TD _extended="true">7.0</TD><TD _extended="true">44</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">33</TD><TD _extended="true">35.5</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">84.2</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">37</TD><TD _extended="true">22</TD><TD _extended="true">59.5</TD><TD _extended="true">209</TD><TD _extended="true">5.6</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">2</TD><TD _extended="true">2</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">24.3</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">70.7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Trent:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">50</TD><TD _extended="true">34</TD><TD _extended="true">68.0</TD><TD _extended="true">300</TD><TD _extended="true">6.0</TD><TD _extended="true">23</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">16</TD><TD _extended="true">32.0</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">75.4</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">50</TD><TD _extended="true">33</TD><TD _extended="true">66.0</TD><TD _extended="true">376</TD><TD _extended="true">7.5</TD><TD _extended="true">54</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">36.0</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">63.4</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">20</TD><TD _extended="true">13</TD><TD _extended="true">65.0</TD><TD _extended="true">114</TD><TD _extended="true">5.7</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">45.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">75.8</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">39.6</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


These are the stats from 2006 from JP, Peyton, Tom Brady and Trent in 2007.

It's obvious that the most successful QB's passed evenly 1-20 yards. You can call it ironic but it's more than that, it's a winning formula to go longer on the passes. JP passed +31 yards ~20% of the time versus 1-10 yards. Peyton is 62.5% of the time and Tom Brady is ~52% of the time using the same formula. Trent is 2% of the time.

Bottom line here is, our coaches are a bunch of pussies. They are not calling the long ball anywhere near enough of the time and they have never given JP (a big arm) even a shot to get near the best in the league. It's obvious that preparing to play the Bills is as simple to Bill Bel and company as playing up in the 20 yard and in zone and waiting for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. What risk does a opposing team take in playing it near our line a majority of the time?? We play scared, just like I said earlier in the year. The coaches are not capable of understanding this type of math, nor will they ever. You can give them degrees and call them geniuses, they are killing our ability to win. We will never win with the 2% passing formula going all the way up to 20% at the highest point. JP was not a rookie last year, yet the coaches never allowed him to do what he brought in for, to throw. It's the same reason they took him out and put Edwards in, they cannot see past the 20 yard pass. It actually frightens them to think out of that small box and it's NEVER going to change.

As long as this defensive minded, grind it out type attitude is here on offense we are screwed. We will never break .500 by much and the playoffs will be a outside shot ever year. The next plateau is waiting for us and we could actually get there, it's just going to take a commitment to extending the best teams defenses so they live in fear of us going long and not going short.

scott51
10-30-2007, 03:07 PM
Good post Skooby

justasportsfan
10-30-2007, 03:12 PM
JP:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">160</TD><TD _extended="true">103</TD><TD _extended="true">64.4</TD><TD _extended="true">1,329</TD><TD _extended="true">8.3</TD><TD _extended="true">83</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">53</TD><TD _extended="true">33.1</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">94.5</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">139</TD><TD _extended="true">89</TD><TD _extended="true">64.0</TD><TD _extended="true">860</TD><TD _extended="true">6.2</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">37</TD><TD _extended="true">26.6</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">78.2</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">93</TD><TD _extended="true">54</TD><TD _extended="true">58.1</TD><TD _extended="true">653</TD><TD _extended="true">7.0</TD><TD _extended="true">44</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">33</TD><TD _extended="true">35.5</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">84.2</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">37</TD><TD _extended="true">22</TD><TD _extended="true">59.5</TD><TD _extended="true">209</TD><TD _extended="true">5.6</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">2</TD><TD _extended="true">2</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">24.3</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">70.7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Trent:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">50</TD><TD _extended="true">34</TD><TD _extended="true">68.0</TD><TD _extended="true">300</TD><TD _extended="true">6.0</TD><TD _extended="true">23</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">16</TD><TD _extended="true">32.0</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">75.4</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">50</TD><TD _extended="true">33</TD><TD _extended="true">66.0</TD><TD _extended="true">376</TD><TD _extended="true">7.5</TD><TD _extended="true">54</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">36.0</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">63.4</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">20</TD><TD _extended="true">13</TD><TD _extended="true">65.0</TD><TD _extended="true">114</TD><TD _extended="true">5.7</TD><TD _extended="true">18</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">45.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">75.8</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0.0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">39.6</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


.
Uh-OH. You just made Philagape defensive.


Phil could you do something about these stats please. Jp's looking better. Trent needs your help. ;)

Mitchy moo
10-30-2007, 03:17 PM
Uh-OH. You just made Philagape defensive.


Phil could you do something about these stats please. Jp's looking better. Trent needs you help.

This has nothing to do with JP VS TE, it's all about what successful QB's /teams do when they pass. You follow a winning formula, you will have a better shot at winning. You may get odd things that happen every year (like Chicago making it to the SB with a 10th grade QB at the helm last year) but in the end they got it handed to them by the same guy I just posted about. I even went 1 year further back (2005 and found that Peyton actually had a lower percentage of longer passes than in 2006, they didn't win the big one that year. Brady was about the same in 2005 as well, consistent as ever.

This league is about being consistent and knowing what allows you to win, that creates a long-term success and not flashes in the pan.

mybills
10-30-2007, 03:22 PM
This league is about being consistent and knowing what allows you to win, that creates a long-term success and not flashes in the pan.
TOTALLY AGREE.

justasportsfan
10-30-2007, 03:23 PM
This has nothing to do with JP VS TE, it's all about what successful QB's /teams do when they pass. You follow a winning formula, you will have a better shot at winning. You may get odd things that happen every year (like Chicago making it to the SB with a 10th grade QB at the helm last year) but in the end they got it handed to them by the same guy I just posted about. I even went 1 year further back (2005 and found that Peyton actually had a lower percentage of longer passes than in 2006, they didn't win the big one that year. Brady was about the same in 2005 as well, consistent as ever.

well said.

I've always stated , Fairchild is the problem why JP failed. He's the problem why Trent could fail. So if our coaches are idiots why are we entrusting them to make decisions regarding our Qb position? Because we don't have a choice?

JP beat Capt. Dink and Dunk in teh qb competition. Now they chose a younger dink and dunk. Can you see the bi-polar decisions by those calling the shots offensively?

I'm not so down on Dick, but if his ego and pride won't fire Fairchild, then just like Wade and Dick in Chicago, they can go down with their friends.

In a nutshell, Fairchild decided to take a couple of steps back offensively by going with Trent over JP to HOPEFULLY take 5 steps forward. Fairchild and those backing up that decision better hope Fairchild knows what he's doing or Trent could be ruined like JP was ruined and the fans thatl have been loyal with Marv in this rebuilding process won't take it anymore.

Mitchy moo
10-30-2007, 03:30 PM
Here is Jim Kelly- 1992:

<TABLE class=standard_table style="WIDTH: 645px" cellSpacing=1 _extended="true"><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=datatabledatahead _extended="true"><TD _extended="true">Attempts</TD><TD _extended="true">Att</TD><TD _extended="true">Comp</TD><TD _extended="true">Pct</TD><TD _extended="true">Yds</TD><TD _extended="true">Avg</TD><TD _extended="true">Lng</TD><TD _extended="true">TD</TD><TD _extended="true">Int</TD><TD _extended="true">1st</TD><TD _extended="true">1st%</TD><TD _extended="true">20+</TD><TD _extended="true">Sck</TD><TD _extended="true">Rate</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 1-Through-10</TD><TD _extended="true">159</TD><TD _extended="true">97</TD><TD _extended="true">61.0</TD><TD _extended="true">1,109</TD><TD _extended="true">7.0</TD><TD _extended="true">51</TD><TD _extended="true">6</TD><TD _extended="true">6</TD><TD _extended="true">56</TD><TD _extended="true">35.2</TD><TD _extended="true">14</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">78.8</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 11-Through-20</TD><TD _extended="true">144</TD><TD _extended="true">85</TD><TD _extended="true">59.0</TD><TD _extended="true">1,271</TD><TD _extended="true">8.8</TD><TD _extended="true">64</TD><TD _extended="true">9</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">59</TD><TD _extended="true">41.0</TD><TD _extended="true">15</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">97.3</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=whiteback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 21-Through-30</TD><TD _extended="true">107</TD><TD _extended="true">59</TD><TD _extended="true">55.1</TD><TD _extended="true">763</TD><TD _extended="true">7.1</TD><TD _extended="true">65</TD><TD _extended="true">7</TD><TD _extended="true">5</TD><TD _extended="true">46</TD><TD _extended="true">43.0</TD><TD _extended="true">8</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">80.1</TD><TR _extended="true"><TR class=ltblueback _extended="true"><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" width="20%" _extended="true">Attempts 31+</TD><TD _extended="true">52</TD><TD _extended="true">28</TD><TD _extended="true">53.8</TD><TD _extended="true">314</TD><TD _extended="true">6.0</TD><TD _extended="true">26</TD><TD _extended="true">1</TD><TD _extended="true">4</TD><TD _extended="true">19</TD><TD _extended="true">36.5</TD><TD _extended="true">3</TD><TD _extended="true">0</TD><TD _extended="true">46.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

He is about 33% on the 31+ yards vs the 1-10 but has a huge amount of 21-30 yards passes. He may not have hit all his long balls but damn if your playing him if your not going to back up a few steps. That's what helped Thurman Thomas we're that nice jacket this year, you know the speech we all cried watching??

Longer passes open the run and creates more shorter passing opportunities. It also stops your TE from getting hurt every year as well. This might explain why we haven't had a good tight end for a while, the D plays closer to the line and just kills them when they get the ball. We could of used a good blocking TE to help protect Trent this weekend, couldn't they see a weakness there??

SquishDaFish
10-30-2007, 03:34 PM
Awesome post Skooby!! Just proves my point that the COACHES and their play calling SUCKS!! No matter who we had behind center would FAIL!

Ed
10-30-2007, 03:47 PM
Interesting stats, but I think it's important to note that both Manning and Brady have had significantly better pass protection then most qb's in the league.

If you don't have the protection, longer pass attempts lead to sacks/turnover/injuries.

Mitchy moo
10-30-2007, 04:01 PM
Interesting stats, but I think it's important to note that both Manning and Brady have had significantly better pass protection then most qb's in the league.

If you don't have the protection, longer pass attempts lead to sacks/turnover/injuries.

Do you think that the threat of the longer pass makes the defenses back up, therefore helping itself with pass protection??

YardRat
10-30-2007, 05:03 PM
Am I the only one that is reading the left column as number of attempts, not attempts in a specific yardage range?

Wraith
10-30-2007, 05:41 PM
Am I the only one that is reading the left column as number of attempts, not attempts in a specific yardage range?

C'mon guys, did it really take nine responses before someone noticed that this guy isn't even using the right statistics? Yardrat is dead on, this is the number of passing attempts, not yardage. D'oh.

theanswer74
10-30-2007, 05:46 PM
I just hope you know that those stats are based on the yardage of the play, not the yardage of the pass. A screen pass could be called a long pass if it gained 32 yards.

shelby
10-30-2007, 05:49 PM
Am I the only one that is reading the left column as number of attempts, not attempts in a specific yardage range?
Skoobs obviously interpreted it as attempts in a specific yardage range.

YardRat
10-30-2007, 06:03 PM
I just hope you know that those stats are based on the yardage of the play, not the yardage of the pass. A screen pass could be called a long pass if it gained 32 yards.

It isn't about yardage at all...it's about attempts. A similar example would portray a running back's performance on carries 1-10, carries 11-20, carries 21-30, and carries 31 and above.

Forward_Lateral
10-30-2007, 06:56 PM
My only issue/question with Edwards is, are a.) The coaches not calling the deep ball, or b.) They are calling it, but he's not pulling the trigger for whatever reason.

The only ones that know this are the Bills.