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  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    Bad coaching

    Don't get me wrong, I think Ruff is an outstanding coach, but he is not immune to blame for the way this team is performing. I'm watching a powerplay not get anything going late in the 3rd period and MaCarthur is not given a shot to help out. Why is the leading scorer in the AHL not on the ice when you need a goal??? Is it because wonderful, Mr. Giveaway, Max has to take up ice time? I don't know, but this organization from the owner down to the coach seems to be in a complete fog.
  • Typ0
    honey pie
    • Jul 2002
    • 32593

    #2
    Re: Bad coaching

    Originally posted by Nighthawk
    Don't get me wrong, I think Ruff is an outstanding coach, but he is not immune to blame for the way this team is performing. I'm watching a powerplay not get anything going late in the 3rd period and MaCarthur is not given a shot to help out. Why is the leading scorer in the AHL not on the ice when you need a goal??? Is it because wonderful, Mr. Giveaway, Max has to take up ice time? I don't know, but this organization from the owner down to the coach seems to be in a complete fog.

    he's giving max a chance to work though is crap before he benches him.

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    • Nighthawk
      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
      • Jul 2002
      • 15437

      #3
      Re: Bad coaching

      Originally posted by Typ0
      he's giving max a chance to work though is crap before he benches him.
      Ok, I can respect that. However, during this span, you're hurting the team.

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      • JD
        Sabres Zone
        • Sep 2003
        • 13752

        #4
        Re: Bad coaching

        Max needs to see the bench for a few games.
        “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.

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        • Typ0
          honey pie
          • Jul 2002
          • 32593

          #5
          Re: Bad coaching

          Originally posted by Nighthawk
          Ok, I can respect that. However, during this span, you're hurting the team.
          I've missed some games...but he was horrible tonight. I've gotten past the frustrations of the game he plays but he's just turning around and giving the puck away now. It's happened to him at times in his career and he's come back and got it together. The whole team is hurting in terms of them figuring out how to play together it's not just max.

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          • camelcowboy
            Registered User
            • Mar 2005
            • 7449

            #6
            Re: Bad coaching

            Originally posted by Typ0
            he's giving max a chance to work though is crap before he benches him.
            Im sick of benching max, just trade him for someone who doesn't hurt this team more then helps it.


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            • Typ0
              honey pie
              • Jul 2002
              • 32593

              #7
              Re: Bad coaching

              Originally posted by camelcowboy
              Im sick of benching max, just trade him for someone who doesn't hurt this team more then helps it.

              again it just sounds oversimplified. We have a lot invested in him and he's a good player. We need to get that back not just trade him for a bag of pucks.

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              • Typ0
                honey pie
                • Jul 2002
                • 32593

                #8
                Re: Bad coaching

                Originally posted by camelcowboy
                Im sick of benching max, just trade him for someone who doesn't hurt this team more then helps it.
                I do agree though...I'm sick of the game we play with him. It's just a matter of getting something worth it.

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                • Nighthawk
                  Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 15437

                  #9
                  Re: Bad coaching

                  Originally posted by Typ0
                  I've missed some games...but he was horrible tonight. I've gotten past the frustrations of the game he plays but he's just turning around and giving the puck away now. It's happened to him at times in his career and he's come back and got it together. The whole team is hurting in terms of them figuring out how to play together it's not just max.
                  Sorry, but them learning how to play together is no excuse. This is the same team and they've been playing together for 2+ years and 2 long playoff runs. This team is not a bunch of FA players learning each other's tendencies. Not a valid excuse for this team's play. People just have to come to reality and that is that this team isn't good enough. I know a lot of you have fallen in love with these players, but it is obvious that Drury & Briere were the heart & soul of this team. Without them, this team is a shell of it's former self. The sooner this organization figures this out, the better it will get. Right now, we are on a path to nowhere.

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                  • Typ0
                    honey pie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 32593

                    #10
                    Re: Bad coaching

                    Originally posted by Nighthawk
                    Sorry, but them learning how to play together is no excuse. This is the same team and they've been playing together for 2+ years and 2 long playoff runs. This team is not a bunch of FA players learning each other's tendencies. Not a valid excuse for this team's play. People just have to come to reality and that is that this team isn't good enough. I know a lot of you have fallen in love with these players, but it is obvious that Drury & Briere were the heart & soul of this team. Without them, this team is a shell of it's former self. The sooner this organization figures this out, the better it will get. Right now, we are on a path to nowhere.
                    it's a shell of it's former self because we need guys to step into those roles and aren't getting it. In the long run, what we are experiencing now COULD be a positive because maybe we can get away from that fallback mechanism and just work hard to win for a whole game. But it's not happening now.

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                    • Nighthawk
                      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 15437

                      #11
                      Re: Bad coaching

                      Originally posted by Typ0
                      it's a shell of it's former self because we need guys to step into those roles and aren't getting it. In the long run, what we are experiencing now COULD be a positive because maybe we can get away from that fallback mechanism and just work hard to win for a whole game. But it's not happening now.
                      I'm telling you right now...there is NOBODY on this team to lead it through this. This team didn't have that for the playoff run last year WITH Drury & Briere, how the hell do expect that to happen now without them?

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                      • Typ0
                        honey pie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 32593

                        #12
                        Re: Bad coaching

                        Originally posted by Nighthawk
                        I'm telling you right now...there is NOBODY on this team to lead it through this. This team didn't have that for the playoff run last year WITH Drury & Briere, how the hell do expect that to happen now without them?

                        that's what I'm saying about the trades...we aren't just going to go out there and grab the guy we need to make it happen. No other team is going to let that happen. We were too good out of the lockout and teams want to catch up. Beating us down is part of the process.

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                        • Philagape
                          WIN NOW
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19432

                          #13
                          Re: Bad coaching

                          So we're rebuilding.


                          After a two-year run.
                          "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

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                          • Typ0
                            honey pie
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 32593

                            #14
                            Re: Bad coaching

                            Originally posted by Philagape
                            So we're rebuilding.


                            After a two-year run.

                            forced into that from success. We have good players. As fans, we have to trust these guys to find a way to work through it and rise up again. This isn't really rebuilding it's not like the team is gutted. The fact is we have a ton of young talent and we have the core of our team signed for the next few years.

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                            • Philagape
                              WIN NOW
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 19432

                              #15
                              Re: Bad coaching

                              Drury and Briere were the core of this team. They made a good team an elite team, and now I can't even say it's a good team. Two shutouts in three games.
                              And nothing forced their departure except the stooges in the FO.
                              "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                              "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

                              2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
                              2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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