Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

[Bling]

Crow?

[YardRat]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

Holding?

[Bling]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

Holding?

I don't know, man. I always thought holding was bit of a lame call on kick returns. I know every man counts, but still, the guy is still a threat whenever the ball is in his hands. Some people just don't like to hear it.

[YardRat]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

He's got wheels, that's for sure.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

I dont think anybody ever said he was a crappy KR

[LtFinFan66]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

Did you hear the announcer when he blew by the guy who looked like he might have the angle?? I think he said "wow"

Of course when you haven't won a game, they are all getting called back

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

Liked Ginn in College, still like him now.. The Bills know how dangerous he is they wouldnt kick the ball to him with 46 seconds left..

[BlackMetalNinja]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

I'm sorry to have to do this, but statistical evidence prevails yet again...

Kickoff Returns NO AVG TD LG T. Ginn 2 14 0 15
Punt Returns NO AVG TD LG
T. Ginn 2 8 0 9
Kickoff Returns NO AVG TD LG A. Thomas 2 13 0 15 T. McGee 1 21 0 21
R. Parrish 1 24 0 24 Punt Returns NO AVG TD LG
R. Parrish 4 20 0 40


And of course Thomas is not a normal kick returner, he was the guy you guys kicked short too because you were scared of our actual return men.

Once again, is there really any argument here?

[LtFinFan66]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

How do Roscoe's rookie return stats look? Just wondering BMN

[BlackMetalNinja]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

How do Roscoe's rookie return stats look? Just wondering BMN

I honestly don't know, but I could find out... the point is I'm not the one bringing this up and acting like Ginn is something more than he is at this point.

[BAM]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

What did he do?

[LtFinFan66]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

It was a nice return. Something to look forward to. He is showing flashes of what he can be

[BlackMetalNinja]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

And since you asked...

Kick return stats as a rookie:

10 returns for 261 yards, 26.1 yard avg. Long of 45 yards.

Punt return stats as a rookie:

14 returns for 186 yards, 13.3 yard avg. Long of 43 yards.

[LtFinFan66]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

I must say slightly in his defense.....our special teams blocking blows ass

[BlackMetalNinja]

Re: Ginn is still a crappy returner, huh?

And since you asked...

Kick return stats as a rookie:

10 returns for 261 yards, 26.1 yard avg. Long of 45 yards.

Punt return stats as a rookie:

14 returns for 186 yards, 13.3 yard avg. Long of 43 yards.

Both are above Ginn's current averages, and Ginn was the #9 pick in the 1st Rd.

Roscoe was the #55 pick overall...