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Gunzlingr
03-29-2003, 02:39 PM
I am responsible for picking for the Bills in a Mock draft on a football forum that I moderate. I have no clue as to who is good and who isn't, so I thought maybe you more knowledgeable folks could help me out.

Schobel94
03-29-2003, 02:57 PM
Michael Haynes if hes available, he kicks ass. Chris Kelsay and Redding are also good, but I want Haynes.

The Spaz
03-29-2003, 03:56 PM
Yeah Haynes or Kenny Peterson are good players who could be available at that spot! Go Bills!

ArcticWildMan
03-29-2003, 05:38 PM
I like Mike Doss, (safety), but he may be a bit of a reach for a 1st rounder.

wwovince
03-29-2003, 09:02 PM
I say Jeff Faine from Notre Dame

The Spaz
03-29-2003, 09:09 PM
Shutup about Jeff Faine seriously, good lord!:) Go Bills!

DraftBoy
03-30-2003, 12:17 PM
I agree we dont need Jeff Faine, I also agree with AWM if they are listing Mike Doss at FS and hes there snag him. If not other options are Haynes (doubt he'll be avail), Peterson (who could be had later), and Redding (Pass-Rush specialist, but lazy). Your choice.

BillsMan80
03-30-2003, 12:29 PM
Don't like Redding or Kelsay at all. Think they are 2 of the most overrated prospects in the draft.

DraftBoy
03-30-2003, 12:41 PM
Kelsay seems like Aaron Schoebel all over again, got a good motor but it takes him nowhere.

venis2k1
03-30-2003, 12:57 PM
http://www.boomersdraft.com/2003/images/faine-ia.jpg

C Jeff Faine

pmoon6
03-30-2003, 01:37 PM
Kelley Washington

The Spaz
03-30-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Winfield_26
I agree we dont need Jeff Faine, I also agree with AWM if they are listing Mike Doss at FS and hes there snag him. If not other options are Haynes (doubt he'll be avail), Peterson (who could be had later), and Redding (Pass-Rush specialist, but lazy). Your choice.

There's no way Kenny Peterson last to us in the 2nd round. You said he could be had later. I think just like I stated earlier I think I would want Haynes more than Peterson but I wouldn' be disappointed with either. Haynes can rush the passer as well as play the run while Peterson has the ability to play DE or DT. Go Bills!

hintexas
03-30-2003, 03:54 PM
Take the best DE available in the first McDougle, Haynes or Kelsey. In the second take the best available in this order Mike Doss, Jeff Faine, Taylor Jacobs, Ken Hamlin or Troy Polamalu. If none of them area available take Julian Battle.

BillsMan80
03-30-2003, 03:58 PM
Kelsay is Aaron Schobel II, and he's not even as good. STAY AWAY from Kelsay.

Throne Logic
03-30-2003, 06:21 PM
Man, you guys are harsh. What's wrong with Shoebel? He's been steadily improving over the last two years, which coincidentally, are his first two years in the league.

It takes most Pro-bowl calliber DE's a couple of years to settle in and make the adjustments they need to be successful. See Jason Taylor as an example . . .

Schobel94
03-30-2003, 06:31 PM
Yeah what's wrong with Schobel, he's the best we got! Frankly I wouldn't mind having 2 Schobel's. In fact that would give us a pretty good pass rush!

DraftBoy
03-30-2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by The Spaz


There's no way Kenny Peterson last to us in the 2nd round. You said he could be had later. I think just like I stated earlier I think I would want Haynes more than Peterson but I wouldn' be disappointed with either. Haynes can rush the passer as well as play the run while Peterson has the ability to play DE or DT. Go Bills!

You defended my argument to a T, I congratulate you on finally seeing my side. Peterson is a tweener, who is yet to find his place it would take him years to develop the pass rush skills to play DE and years to develop and bulk up to be a two gap DT. He is not what the Bills need, hes a one gap DT who will get mauled by goliath OG.