Bills Bringing Down Points Allowed

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Through nine games Buffalo's defense has held five opponents (Jets twice) to 15 points or less. The Bills are 4-1 in those games this year and 8-1 overall in two seasons under Dick Jauron.

Impressive! Now if only our offense could score more than 15 we'd be in business!

I also LOVE this quote by Donte Whitner at the end:

"I don't care if they look good or not," said Whitner. "I just want to win them. When you look at our record it's not going to say how we won it, how we did it, how many yards they rushed for or anything like that. It's a win and that's all that matters."

http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5571

[OpIv37]

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Scoring:

19. Miami Dolphins 19.6 ppg
23. NYJ 17.7 ppg
25. Denver Broncos 17 ppg
28. Baltimore Ravens 15.3 ppg

It's not JUST us- these teams aren't scoring on ANYONE. That's a skewed stat if I ever saw one. Notice how they conveniently leave out the 3 teams we played that were in the top 10 in scoring- NE, Pitt and Cincy.

Wow, big deal- we can stop the teams that everyone else can stop and can't stop anyone good.

[YardRat]

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Scoring:

19. Miami Dolphins 19.6 ppg
23. NYJ 17.7 ppg
25. Denver Broncos 17 ppg
28. Baltimore Ravens 15.3 ppg

It's not JUST us- these teams aren't scoring on ANYONE. That's a skewed stat if I ever saw one. Notice how they conveniently leave out the 3 teams we played that were in the top 10 in scoring- NE, Pitt and Cincy.

Wow, big deal- we can stop the teams that everyone else can stop and can't stop anyone good.

Miami's scored the most points against New England in any game so far this year...28.

[OpIv37]

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Miami's scored the most points against New England in any game so far this year...28.

and?

We put up 33 on Cincy- doesn't mean squat because everyone knows Cincy's D is terrible and so is our O. One game doesn't make an offense productive.

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and?

We put up 33 on Cincy- doesn't mean squat because everyone knows Cincy's D is terrible and so is our O. One game doesn't make an offense productive.

And shut up! The stats dont lie. We dont give up to many points at all. Face it our d is not that bad. And if we look at things your way, name one team that NE hasnt racked up a **** ton of points on. You cant. So like i said, shut it.

[OpIv37]

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And shut up! The stats dont lie. We dont give up to many points at all. Face it our d is not that bad. And if we look at things your way, name one team that NE hasnt racked up a **** ton of points on. You cant. So like i said, shut it.

The stats don't lie- you're right. We don't give up points to teams that don't score points. We do give up points to teams that do score points. So, what is it exactly that this stat shows? Nothing.

Pittsburgh scored 26. Dallas scored 24.

[YardRat]

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and?

We put up 33 on Cincy- doesn't mean squat because everyone knows Cincy's D is terrible and so is our O. One game doesn't make an offense productive.

Everybody knows NE's defense is pretty good, and Miami's offense blows. Yet they were able to put up 28 pts.

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Everybody knows NE's defense is pretty good, and Miami's offense blows. Yet they were able to put up 28 pts.

and what was the score at the start of the 4th in that game?

NE had one bad quarter and they only had it after building a ridiculous lead.

Yeah, it looks like Miami's O had a good game if you don't pay attention to the specifics. If the game was in doubt Miami never would have scored nearly that much.

[YardRat]

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and what was the score at the start of the 4th in that game?

NE had one bad quarter and they only had it after building a ridiculous lead.

Yeah, it looks like Miami's O had a good game if you don't pay attention to the specifics. If the game was in doubt Miami never would have scored nearly that much.

Granted. It's still possible, though.

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How can you say we do it only against bad teams then list off the top 3 teams in the league. No one stops these teams. No one is saying we are a great d. You always point out some ridiculous point and just hound on it. The fact is we dont give up alot of points and i guarantee you it will be the same at the end of the year.

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How can you say we do it only against bad teams then list off the top 3 teams in the league. No one stops these teams. No one is saying we are a great d. You always point out some ridiculous point and just hound on it. The fact is we dont give up alot of points and i guarantee you it will be the same at the end of the year.

the stat in the initial post talked about 5 games against 4 opponents: The Jets, Ravens, Broncos and Dolphins. I didn't leave it out- whoever computed the stat did. You're making my point exactly- the good offenses we played weren't included in this stat because we didn't stop them- so someone just conveniently left it out when talking about how great we are. They basically said "If you don't count the 4 games against good teams, the Bills' D is good."

Please.

And btw we didn't give up a lot of points last year. We were 10th in points allowed last year and we're 9th this year. Not giving up a lot of points doesn't matter when you can barely average 15 points a game and get killed in TOP.

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Op,

We may give up more points to the good teams, but if you look at their average points per game, they've all scored less against us. So you could say we're at least doing better againsts them then most teams.

And not giving up a lot of points may not matter as far as wins and losses when your O is struggling to score points, but that's not the D's fault. You can still credit them for doing well.

[OpIv37]

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Op,

We may give up more points to the good teams, but if you look at their average points per game, they've all scored less against us. So you could say we're at least doing better againsts them then most teams.

And not giving up a lot of points may not matter as far as wins and losses when your O is struggling to score points, but that's not the D's fault. You can still credit them for doing well.

Your first point is a much better indicator of the D's success than the stat that started this thread.

Everyone jumps on Wy's when he says "well, if you take out his longest run, he only averaged 2.6 yards." Well, this stat is doing the same thing: "If you ignore the games where we allowed points, we didn't allow points." It's not a complete measure, but no one wants to think about that. They heard what they wanted to hear and turned their brains off.

As far as the O struggling to score points, TOP goes both ways. Early in the season, the D wasn't giving the O enough chances with the ball, and the O wasn't doing anything with the chances they did get. Since the Dallas game or so, the D has done it's part even in the losses and it's been mostly, if not entirely, on the O.

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Op,

We may give up more points to the good teams, but if you look at their average points per game, they've all scored less against us. So you could say we're at least doing better againsts them then most teams.

And not giving up a lot of points may not matter as far as wins and losses when your O is struggling to score points, but that's not the D's fault. You can still credit them for doing well.

This stat is nothing but a positive! We're improving and I'm proud of our defense! Keep it up this week boys!

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Your first point is a much better indicator of the D's success than the stat that started this thread.

Everyone jumps on Wy's when he says "well, if you take out his longest run, he only averaged 2.6 yards." Well, this stat is doing the same thing: "If you ignore the games where we allowed points, we didn't allow points." It's not a complete measure, but no one wants to think about that. They heard what they wanted to hear and turned their brains off.

As far as the O struggling to score points, TOP goes both ways. Early in the season, the D wasn't giving the O enough chances with the ball, and the O wasn't doing anything with the chances they did get. Since the Dallas game or so, the D has done it's part even in the losses and it's been mostly, if not entirely, on the O.

The writer ignored these teams but the stats didnt. And even ater those games our scoring D is still pretty damn good.