We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

[raphael120]

NFL Team Payrolls
Rk Team Payroll (US$)
1 Panthers $123,857,016
2 Patriots $123,280,263
3 Vikings $121,969,054
4 Redskins $120,645,542
5 Cowboys $119,945,223
6 Rams $119,338,992
7 Colts $113,177,602
8 Bengals $111,617,228
9 Seahawks $111,224,505
10 Giants $109,572,862
11 Eagles $104,260,666
12 Titans $103,298,186
13 Falcons $100,560,095
14 Broncos $98,872,103
15 Saints $96,573,797
16 49ers $95,551,361
17 Jaguars $95,502,185
18 Ravens $95,502,185
19 Texans $95,502,185
20 Bears $95,466,989
21 Cardinals $93,366,812
22 Browns $92,409,807
23 Steelers $90,897,942
24 Raiders $90,885,993
25 Chargers $89,872,563
26 Dolphins $88,866,028
27 Buccaneers $88,613,706
28 Packers $88,161,935
29 Lions $80,855,315
30 Jets $76,986,300
31 Chiefs $75,628,062
32 Bills $65,680,475

[YardRat]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

I'm surprised it's that low considering the monster deals Kelsay, Schobel, Walker, and Dockery got.

Can you post a link so we can see what factors they used in determining the definition of 'payroll'? The numbers seem skewed.

[raphael120]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

I'm surprised it's that low considering the monster deals Kelsay, Schobel, Walker, and Dockery got.

Can you post a link so we can see what factors they used in determining the definition of 'payroll'? The numbers seem skewed.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSalary?categoryId=67065

not skewed at all.

none of our players are even in the top 50 players paid this year

[Mr. Pink]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

Having the highest payroll doesn't help either...look at the Panthers.

Funny part is 27-29 on that list are all playoff teams.

And Green Bay is arguably the best NFC team.

[patmoran2006]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

"Ralph's not cheap".

LOL

(having said that, I disagree with this being why we can't compete. WE sign plenty of players via FA, they're just usually the wrong ones.)

[Elminster]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

1 Panthers $123,857,0164-6
2 Patriots $123,280,26310-0
3 Vikings $121,969,0544-6
4 Redskins $120,645,5425-5
5 Cowboys $119,945,2239-1
6 Rams $119,338,9922-8
7 Colts $113,177,6028-2
8 Bengals $111,617,2283-7
9 Seahawks $111,224,5056-4
10 Giants $109,572,8627-3
11 Eagles $104,260,6665-5
12 Titans $103,298,1866-3
13 Falcons $100,560,0953-7
14 Broncos $98,872,1034-5
15 Saints $96,573,7974-6
16 49ers $95,551,3612-8
17 Jaguars $95,502,1857-3
18 Ravens $95,502,1854-6
19 Texans $95,502,1855-5
20 Bears $95,466,9894-6
21 Cardinals $93,366,8125-5
22 Browns $92,409,8076-4
23 Steelers $90,897,9427-3
24 Raiders $90,885,9932-8
25 Chargers $89,872,5635-5
26 Dolphins $88,866,0280-10 LOL
27 Buccaneers $88,613,7066-4
28 Packers $88,161,9359-1
29 Lions $80,855,3156-4
30 Jets $76,986,3002-8
31 Chiefs $75,628,0624-6
32 Bills $65,680,475 5-5

Top 10 Average wins: 6(6-4)
Middle 10 average wins:4(4-6)
Bottom 12 average wins:6(6-4)

[YardRat]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

Top 10 Average wins: 6(6-4)
Middle 10 average wins:4(4-6)
Bottom 12 average wins:6(6-4)

Nice.

[eyedog]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

And the three best teams are in the top-7.

[DaBillzAhDaShiznit]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

Well, let's see how the records settle out at the end of the year.

Drop out the two worst records in the top half, and the two best records in the bottom half (this helps to eliminate statistical anomalies), then see what the money really means.

We might see the same answer, but that would be a more accurate analysis.

[superbills]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

Since I'm way too lazy to do it myself has anybody protracted this out over a number of years? In other words, what is the trend since salaries and team spending can vary from year to year. I'm just curious to see if we're consistently on the bottom, or if we fluctuate in and out of the higher tiers. Big contract years and fluctuations in player salary scales has to affect these numbers in a big way. Any insight into the salary aspect of this Clump?

[the REAL Rudeman]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

"Ralph's not cheap".

LOL

(having said that, I disagree with this being why we can't compete. WE sign plenty of players via FA, they're just usually the wrong ones.)

I didn't mean to thank you and I didn't mean to groan you. I meant to reply with quote.

Anyway, what you said has some truth to it, and a high payroll doesn't ensure success, nor does a low payroll ensure failure. However, statistically speaking, there is a positive correlation between the two.

To address your second point, you can't just sign free agents, even they're ok ones, hoping they'll gel. Once in a while you HAVE TO sign a high priced free agent. Then you build the team around that guy.

Tom Brady = high priced (not that he was a FA)
Randy Moss = high priced.

Tom and Randy = prolific = success.

We don't have a single guy who's high priced, ie a BIG TIME money player.

[acehole]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

No it is all JP's fault.


Well I guess we should be in last and we are not.

That is saying somthing to be 5 and 5 right now.

NFL Team Payrolls
Rk Team Payroll (US$)
1 Panthers $123,857,016
2 Patriots $123,280,263
3 Vikings $121,969,054
4 Redskins $120,645,542
5 Cowboys $119,945,223
6 Rams $119,338,992
7 Colts $113,177,602
8 Bengals $111,617,228
9 Seahawks $111,224,505
10 Giants $109,572,862
11 Eagles $104,260,666
12 Titans $103,298,186
13 Falcons $100,560,095
14 Broncos $98,872,103
15 Saints $96,573,797
16 49ers $95,551,361
17 Jaguars $95,502,185
18 Ravens $95,502,185
19 Texans $95,502,185
20 Bears $95,466,989
21 Cardinals $93,366,812
22 Browns $92,409,807
23 Steelers $90,897,942
24 Raiders $90,885,993
25 Chargers $89,872,563
26 Dolphins $88,866,028
27 Buccaneers $88,613,706
28 Packers $88,161,935
29 Lions $80,855,315
30 Jets $76,986,300
31 Chiefs $75,628,062
32 Bills $65,680,475

[Historian]

Re: We Will Never Be Able To Compete, and this is Why

I would like to see the salaries of the Coaches/Executives.

I'll bet they're dead last too.

With the exception of Pittsburgh.