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[patmoran2006]

You've seen 11 games now, and it's the same story.

* You feast on the bottom feeders of the NFL like Miami, NY and Cinci and you're players and coaches look great.

* YOu rarely ever beat a team with a winning record and your staff and sometimes players look clueless.

* You're starting QB after four seasons is still clueless, rattled, mopes on the bench by himself after turnovers, stupid and basically a bum as winning less than a third of his starts indicates; but you couldn't help but be attracted to his physical abilities.

* You enter the offseason third in the league in cap room.

Come up with a plan, a plan that is at least somewhat realistic and reasonable. What would YOU DO to make this team a real contender?

[YardRat]

Sell.

[Nighthawk]

Get an excellent HC who actually isn't afraid of his own shadow.

[patmoran2006]

Get an excellent HC who actually isn't afraid of his own shadow.
Naturally my big mouth is going to comment about a lot more, but I think that's unquestionably priority #1.

[trapezeus]

1. require that the OC change. making wholesale changes for the HC position says that the last 2 years were a waste. i think this team is more disciplined than with the other jokers.

2. look for a playmaker #1 WR in the draft or free agency

3. put emphasis on a pass catching TE in the draft.

4. See if there is a viable #1 Center.

5. Get decent LB's as backups and 1 more legit starter.

6. Get a sack master or two at whatever price.

7. i also get a marketing department that sells that the Bills are more america's team than the cash rich cowboys or patriots. the majority of americans are disenfranchised and work within thte system. the bills are the everyday man. and seeing them succeed is like seeing a small guy come from the bottom to the top with hard work. Whether that comes from getting the bills logo out in movies and stories, more prominent spots on the pregame fluff stories. People can identify with this team. no one markets it properly.

[Mr. Pink]

Realistic Plan?

hmmm this could be fun...

1st - Trade Losman for whatever you can get on draft day...to be realistic, I'll say it's a 5th, the same thing Cleveland got for Charlie Frye.

2nd - Trade or release Schoebel, too much contract, not enough production. I don't think you can trade him with his salary, so I release him. While it might not be a fan favorite move to do so, it frees up more money and gets an overpriced bum out of here. Insert Hargrove as the new starter. Kelsay gets to stay because his contract isn't as ridiculous at least for one more year.

3rd - Make a serious run at Derek Anderson. Give him an offer sheet that makes Cleveland make a decision on if they want to pay him the big buicks. Somewhere in the range of 5 years 40 million.

4th - If the Titans don't franchise Albert Haynesworth, make a nice offer to him as well. If I can get him inked to a deal, I turn around and either a. trade Tripps or b. release him.

5th - Sign Eric Johnson or LJ Smith via FA. Both could be weapons in the passing game.

6th - Sign either Bernard Berrian or Patrick Crayton. Crayton is likely not to go anywhere so Berrian would probably be the option here.

7th - Sign some backups on the O-line, we're very thin and have escaped the injury bug thus far, hopefully Langston isn't out long.

8th - Fire Dick and hire Marty, Marty then has complete control over who he brings in on the coaching staff.

9th - If Cleveland matches the offer sheet to DA, and Hayensworth stays a Titan, I draft the best DT available. If Haynesworth comes here and I don't get DA...I draft the best Corner available.

[DraftBoy]

1. Fire DJ, Bobby Fairchild, and Demote Perry Fewell
2. Hire Norm Chow (HC), John Tenuta (DC), and Steve Sarkisian (OC)
3. Enter FA and sign OG Justin Smiley, DT Randy Starks, LB Boss Bailey, CB Marcus Trufant, WR Drew Carter
4. Draft:
1. TE Travis Beckum/Martellus Bennett-Wisconsin/Texas A&M
2. WR Limas Sweed-Texas
3a. LB Ali Highsmith-LSU
3b. QB Josh Johnson-San Diego
4. CB Dominique Rodgers-Croamartie-Tenn St
5a. DE Tommy Blake-TCU
5b. OC John Sullivan-Notre Dame
6. FB Jehuu Caulcrick-Michigan State
7a. RB Omar Cuff-Delaware
7b. CB Corey Lynch-App State

5. Questions?

[OpIv37]

Wow, where to start....

1. Fire Fairchild and let Jauron know he's on a short leash.

2. Fix the QB situation- I don't know how but get someone other than the guys we have. Maybe get Derek Anderson in FA.

3. Get a big WR for the new QB, and a receiving TE if possible. If not, use Royal more and get Lynch in the passing game (pre-requisites for the new QB). Otherwise, bringing in a QB is going to be useless. Anderson is used to throwing to tall receivers and we'll need at least one if he's our guy.

4. Trade Kelsay and get a DT who can rush the passer next to Kelsay. We have enough draft picks and with Kelsay and Losman, we have plenty to trade away to make this happen.

5. Get a real center in the draft (maybe this one should be higher). Fowler blows. And fire McNally with Fairchild.

[patmoran2006]

Realistic Plan?

hmmm this could be fun...

1st - Trade Losman for whatever you can get on draft day...to be realistic, I'll say it's a 5th, the same thing Cleveland got for Charlie Frye.
100% agree. I think a 5th for him might even be pushing it, his trade value has plummeted. Who wants a QB that is 3-16 against teams .500 or better? Honestly, I think he ends up getting cut. If we get anything for him, it's better than nothing.

2nd - Trade or release Schoebel, too much contract, not enough production. I don't think you can trade him with his salary, so I release him. While it might not be a fan favorite move to do so, it frees up more money and gets an overpriced bum out of here. Insert Hargrove as the new starter. Kelsay gets to stay because his contract isn't as ridiculous at least for one more year.
I don't think that will happen. Clumpy would know more than me, I'm not sure what the cap hit would be for releasing him. I'm thinking a lot. I think he needs to be surrounded by a better DT and aggressive OLB to get more one one one's in the pass rush. He's a good player, but he doesnt make the guys around him better, and he can't lift a team by himself (unless we're playing the jets or fins). I think he stays.

3rd - Make a serious run at Derek Anderson. Give him an offer sheet that makes Cleveland make a decision on if they want to pay him the big buicks. Somewhere in the range of 5 years 40 million.
Absolutely not. May think I'm crazy, but we'll revisit this next year. I think Trent Edwards WILL be the answer. In fact, given the chance with some talent and a better OC around him, I think Edwards will be the next DA.

4th - If the Titans don't franchise Albert Haynesworth, make a nice offer to him as well. If I can get him inked to a deal, I turn around and either a. trade Tripps or b. release him.
Priority #1. He'd make this ENTIRE defense better. If we sign ONE free agent and he's available, I'd overpay the **** out of him. He would clog up the middle, collapse the pocket and make SChobel and Kelsay more useful. If he's gone and there is no obvious upgrade via FA for DT, then my first rounder is going here.

5th - Sign Eric Johnson or LJ Smith via FA. Both could be weapons in the passing game.
No doubt. Smith would be a GREAT addition, especially for someone like Edwards who likes to find his tight end a lot.

6th - Sign either Bernard Berrian or Patrick Crayton. Crayton is likely not to go anywhere so Berrian would probably be the option here.
NOt sure how much Berrian would cost (Crayton aint going anywhere), it depends on his price. I would like that Hackett kid to be a perfect #2. One thing is for certain, they NEED a better #2 than what they have. Could be a very early draft pick here if they don't upgrade via FA.

7th - Sign some backups on the O-line, we're very thin and have escaped the injury bug thus far, hopefully Langston isn't out long.
Definitely.

8th - Fire Dick and hire Marty, Marty then has complete control over who he brings in on the coaching staff.
I prefer Cowher, but I said "realistically". that's never going to happen. I would LOVE to see Marty-ball come to Buffalo. I said for US to play owner so we can do this, I don't think Wilson/Levy will fire Jauron, even if they finish this year 5-11. Wilson is HISTORICALLY cheap in hiring head coaches, and even if I'm wrong and Jauron got ****canned, there is no way I see Wilson paying bucks for Marty S. My best and most realistic hope is that we at least get rid of Fairchild and find an innovative offensive coordinator.

9th - If Cleveland matches the offer sheet to DA, and Hayensworth stays a Titan, I draft the best DT available. If Haynesworth comes here and I don't get DA...I draft the best Corner available.
I don't pay for Anderson Im happy with Edwards. I agree about Haynesworth and I'd be shocked if Tenn doesn't tag or sign him long term. Assuming that happens I think the first round pick should be a DT as well. WE also really need a better CB, I think Greer is a good #2 but McGee is not consistent enough to be a #1. I think he's a nickel back at best, at least on a good defense he is.

[OpIv37]

btw Haynesworth is a punk ***** and I don't want that dirtbag anywhere near Orchard Park.

[colin]

i sign lance briggs

i make a run at chad johnson, i think we can get him. if not we go to whoever else we can.

heysnworth, or any other physical penetrating combo DT we can sign, i think there are a few out there.

cut jp, perhaps shoot him in the foot just so dick never plays him again.

new OC.

lj smith, or draft a TE.

physical corner, draft or sign.

in the draft i get a day one C and or RG. i get new LBs and one each for the secondary and DL, pass rusher won't hurt either.

with all of that and trent at QB we can win. briggs and another DT alone will super charge our front 7

[jonah7777]

1. release losman don't care what his draft value is.
2 fire dick j and most of the staff with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions
3. draft including looking for yes another QB to groom in case te is anothe r jp in the waiting or even give the rook serious competition to start next year. sorry not convinced te is much better than what we have had.
4. Find a qualified strength coach..... buffalo has sucked in this area ever since rusty jones hit the road.
5. open up the freakin wallet and start getting some quality players. This bunch of "players" with a few exceptions would not make most NFL teams.

[Ingtar33]

1) Fire DJ, hire Marty/Cower/Parcels
2) Let them do what they want

suggestions for the new HC

-Dump Losman
-Get a big athletic no.2 option (WR)
-Get a big athletic TE
-Make a Run at D.Anderson
-Get John Henderson (i wanted us to draft him once upon a time)
-Get a real no.1 Corner
-Get a real FS
-Dump the cover 2

[historypete]

Once the offseason hits this is what I do.

Fire Fairchild. My feelings on him are real clear. I'd move up Van Pelt, I think he has a real offensive mind and background to prove it.

Trade JP. It doesn't make sense to have him here because he hasn't played well enough to earn an extension and it is in his best interests to move him also. I hope I can get a 5th for him considering the way he is currently playing.

Release the following players. Tripplett, P. Price, M. Fowler, D. Preston. ALl of them are worthless and eating up too much cap space.

I'd look to sign Lance Briggs. I think him, Crowell, and Poz would be a great trio.

You need a big, fat DT. I wouldn't mind Haynesworth although he has baggage. Dorsey will be gone in the draft before we can land him.

Get rid of the Cover 2 with penetrating DT's. It is clear our DT's (minus McCargo, who I think has taken huge strides) can penetrate the line. Go to a more attacking style Defense.

I would draft a Big WR to complement Evans. We need a Strong Center to replace Fowler, I'd try FA but might have to rely on the draft. I'd also draft a playmaking TE (Miller from USC I like), and you always need Oline and Dline guys. Another solid 3rd corner (hopefully with a 3rd round pick). I think McGee and Greer have done a great job considering the lack of pressure our line puts on the opposing QB.

[JD]

I wouldnt mind ocho cinco in a bills uniform :up:

[njsue]

Get an excellent HC who actually isn't afraid of his own shadow.


Hello MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER!!!

[scott51]

You've seen 11 games now, and it's the same story.

* You feast on the bottom feeders of the NFL like Miami, NY and Cinci and you're players and coaches look great.

* YOu rarely ever beat a team with a winning record and your staff and sometimes players look clueless.

* You're starting QB after four seasons is still clueless, rattled, mopes on the bench by himself after turnovers, stupid and basically a bum as winning less than a third of his starts indicates; but you couldn't help but be attracted to his physical abilities.

* You enter the offseason third in the league in cap room.

Come up with a plan, a plan that is at least somewhat realistic and reasonable. What would YOU DO to make this team a real contender?

The first thing I would do is hire your Avatar!

[SquishDaFish]

Sell my team to someone in Buffalo who would love to build a winner?? Then that owner can beef up the DL with some talent and get some weapons on offense. Not to mention spend the damn money on some real coaches.

[BlackMetalNinja]

3rd - Make a serious run at Derek Anderson. Give him an offer sheet that makes Cleveland make a decision on if they want to pay him the big buicks. Somewhere in the range of 5 years 40 million.

How big are we talking... like Rendezvous or just a Skylark? I say give him a LeSabre and call it good!


Sorry... it was too easy and I couldn't resist! :couch:

[RockStar36]

Fire Fairchild and let DJ have one more year. I don't like DJ at all but he should at least get 3 full seasons.

Trade Losman and Schobel to start.

Draft a big WR to go opposite Evans. Also draft a big time DE or pick one up in FA.

Move Dig over and be set with Dig, Poz, and Crowell.

Get a huge DT to clog up the middle (release Triplett).

Let TE start. Pick up a solid number 2 with experience just in case.


**If I thought for one second that Cowher would a) be available, b) want to coach again, and c) come to Buffalo I would fire DJ that instant and throw the bank at Cower.

[Bufftp]

You've seen 11 games now, and it's the same story.

* You feast on the bottom feeders of the NFL like Miami, NY and Cinci and you're players and coaches look great.

* YOu rarely ever beat a team with a winning record and your staff and sometimes players look clueless.

* You're starting QB after four seasons is still clueless, rattled, mopes on the bench by himself after turnovers, stupid and basically a bum as winning less than a third of his starts indicates; but you couldn't help but be attracted to his physical abilities.

* You enter the offseason third in the league in cap room.

Come up with a plan, a plan that is at least somewhat realistic and reasonable. What would YOU DO to make this team a real contender?
As the current owner I will probably need to take a nap before I tackle those issues. Of course when I wake up I will have forgotton the issues.

[bigbub2352]

First thing on the agenda, Fire the coaching staff, they have done very little to make this team have a game plan to win, they are good at coming up with a game plan for us to keep it close. We need a real D cordinator in here, a real offense cordinator in here, and a real Emotional HC, DJ sucks and will get out coached in any and every big game he is a part of
suggestions:
Hasslett, Shotenheimeyer, Martz, Sherman, Cowher, ala anyone with passion for the game,
OC- i wouldnt mind AVP here
DC- someone who actually has a game plan, like Mike Singletary

that being said
Trade Losman for whatever u can get,
Get a real LBer in here, Ellison is a bum, i really like Dansby from AZ who is set to be a FA, or Briggs but i think the Bills wont go after anyone so i hope we draft another LBer maybe in the 3rd round

Get some WRs in here, we need at least 3 get one via draft at the very least, and go after a FA with some ability Porter, Hackett, Berrian, Bryant Johnson, Crayton, and bring in some Undrafted rookie FA's at the postion, only keep 2 from current roster, Reed, Price Jenkins all suck, Parrish and Evans is all u need to keep from this roster

DT- get a real DT in here so McCargo can stop getting triple teamed, Tripilett needs to be released, he is awful, Williams is good depth, thats about all he got,
Sign or draft a pass rush specialtist and get rid of useless Denney man he plays so stiff, and provides nothing against the pass,

i think secondary we r good, maybe look into another CB, but i think S and most of the CB postions we r solid

Get a real Hback, cause they are used in the passing game, not like our TE who was converted to a FB, cause we have no true scheme on offense, LEster from LSU would be nice wishful thinking there, maybe Schouman when he is healthy, but cut Nuefeld he is awful

TE we would be in great shape if we had a number 1, royal and gaines will be good at 2 and 3 he need to get a TE with some over the middle ability and ability to stretch and actually get open would be nice, draft one

I think we swung and missed with two OLine man Walker is terrible at runblocking, and Fowler is a bum, we should cut our losses with both but we wont, so i am looking to get a bigger more sturdy C, Gaddis is not the answer, maybe Merz, but draft one

Time for change again the answer is will we do anything?

[SquishDaFish]

I disagree on Walker. Hes been very good

[Mr. Pink]

How big are we talking... like Rendezvous or just a Skylark? I say give him a LeSabre and call it good!


Sorry... it was too easy and I couldn't resist! :couch:


:rofl:

I was thinking to give him a 56 Roadmaster actually!

[sdbillsfan2]

First thing that needs to be done.......Sell the Bills to someone like Mark Cuban
Second thing.........watch the ***** hit the fan
Third.............. buy my season tickets,and cancel all plans cuz we're goin to at least the playoff!
Seriously, Ralph is so old and senile, maybe everyones telling him that his team is actually winning these games and he believes it. For some of your younger folks, I remember the talk years ago saying Ralph was moving the bills if he didn't get a new stadium. Kazam ,A new stadium is built in Orchard park! If Ralph gave 2 sheets about WNY he'd sell the team to a group of local investors. I mean what the H ..he bought in for like 50 grand, and the team is worth what 700,800 mil? This is one greedy fool! Sell the team Ralph. Please sell the team!
Coach J couldn't have been blessed with a more appropriate first nickname!
Living here in Charger country....let me tell ya...we all wish Marty never left!

[Historian]

Bring in Parcells.

Tell him he can shop for the groceries and do all the cooking.

Sit back and have fun.

[RockStar36]

Bring in Parcells.

Tell him he can shop for the groceries and do all the cooking.

Sit back and have fun.

And count how many games it takes for Parcells to

A) Flip out on the Buffalo media

B) Burst a blood vessel in his brain

[superbills]

1) Fire DJ, hire Marty/Cower/Parcels
2) Let them do what they want

suggestions for the new HC

-Dump Losman
-Get a big athletic no.2 option (WR)
-Get a big athletic TE
-Make a Run at D.Anderson
-Get John Henderson (i wanted us to draft him once upon a time)
-Get a real no.1 Corner
-Get a real FS
-Dump the cover 2

I completely agree with number 2, but let me comment on number 1. I agree with your choices, but does anyone think:

A) Cowher would come out of retirement to coach HERE? Let's be honest, with our ownership situation and "cash to the cap" philosophy, I'm not sure that someone who is not actively looking for a job will be eager to step into this one.

B) We will pay the kind of money it might require to bring in the likes of Cowher or Shottenheimer? This question is tirelessly re-tread every time we have a vacancy, but it remains something that I believe has contributed to the mediocrity we have suffered through in our coaching ranks.

C) We will make a coaching change while the blame cane be laid on JP and injuries? Jauron seems to have a built-in out, based on the history of decision making at OBD. A slew of injuries, and a mess at QB that (to play devil's advocate) one could argue was not DJ's fault. He inherited JP and Trent is a rookie. This whole thing smells like Levy will come out with some statement about his faith in the coaching staff and our losses coming in the face of "dire circumstances" or something to that effect. Thus points A and B may be moot. Just writing and thinking about this is giving me a headache :sick: