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Just because he is throwing shorter passes and checking down like Holcomb does not mean he has a weak arm. He is a rookie and playing smart. As he gains exp and confidence the longer throws will come.
His arm strength coming out of college was a strength not a weakness.
5. Trent Edwards, Stanford, 6-4, 231: After a brilliant prep career at California's Los Gatos High, Edwards was the top quarterback prospect on many college recruiting lists. But Edwards limped through his college years as an unfulfilled promise. There were explanations aplenty, including a lack of talented support and a series of injuries to him and his teammates that left the famous Stanford Hospital with a better roster than the team itself. Some scouts remain confident that Edwards is a great player still waiting to blossom. Physically, he has at times shown everything necessary to be a top prospect, including field awareness, arm strength, mobility, accuracy and toughness. But he made too many bad decisions under pressure and was under pressure far too often; he suffered 84 sacks in 31 games. He missed his final five games at Stanford because of a broken foot that has since mended. Now NFL scouts are wondering whether Edwards can mend his broken career
Negatives: Edwards has had trouble keeping himself upright, partly due to a sub-par offensive line, but also because he holds on to the ball way too long in hopes of making a big play. He was getting sacked at a rate of almost four per game through the first half of the 2006 season, compiling an 0-6 record during that stretch.
so the draft magazines that are meaningless when they suggest Marv's picks are a "reach" are suddenly accurate when it comes to evaluating Edwards?
I think we simply don't have enough information yet. One one hand, Edwards is probably checking down because he's a rookie still learning to read D's and doesn't want to throw the pick. On the other hand, he doesn't really go down field and does seem to lack a little "zip" on sideline routes. Just because he doesn't go downfield does not necessarily mean he can't, but I'm not going to believe he can until he proves it.
It's too bad that we have a complete quarterback divided amongst two players. JP has the big arm and the fast legs while Trent has the precision and understanding to consistently move the ball. If we could put Trent's head on JP's body, we'd have our QB.
so the draft magazines that are meaningless when they suggest Marv's picks are a "reach" are suddenly accurate when it comes to evaluating Edwards?
I think we simply don't have enough information yet. One one hand, Edwards is probably checking down because he's a rookie still learning to read D's and doesn't want to throw the pick. On the other hand, he doesn't really go down field and does seem to lack a little "zip" on sideline routes. Just because he doesn't go downfield does not necessarily mean he can't, but I'm not going to believe he can until he proves it.
It's too bad that we have a complete quarterback divided amongst two players. JP has the big arm and the fast legs while Trent has the precision and understanding to consistently move the ball. If we could put Trent's head on JP's body, we'd have our QB.
He didn't "check down" on Sunday hitting Reed on a nice long pass. He didnt check down Sunday hitting Evans on a 29 yarder. He didn't check down hitting Jackson over the middle in FULL STRIDE that led to a 55 yarder.
200 yards in the second half. .He can "check down" all he wants.. The boy can play.... well
I dont care what people say, he still seems to have somewhat of a noodle arm to me. That isnt to say that he cant make deep passes, but he doesnt seem to have an above average NFL arm.
Think back the last jets game. When JP came in the game, his arm strength was a world of difference compared to Trent's. This is my biggest concern about TE. He can develop all he can, be as smart as he can be, tough as he can be, but if you don't have an arm in this league, you are doomed to fail. See Chad Pennington.
I dont care what people say, he still seems to have somewhat of a noodle arm to me. That isnt to say that he cant make deep passes, but he doesnt seem to have an above average NFL arm.
Think back the last jets game. When JP came in the game, his arm strength was a world of difference compared to Trent's. This is my biggest concern about TE. He can develop all he can, be as smart as he can be, tough as he can be, but if you don't have an arm in this league, you are doomed to fail. See Chad Pennington.
Chad Pennington won playoff games.
Jim Druckenmiller ended up in the XFL.
Arm strength is overrated. With the right talent surrounding him, even a noodle arm like Holcomb or Pennington can succeed.
After watching bothe TE and JP in camp I will say this...
I was next to my brother watching both QB's at the same time (Both will drop back at the same time, throw the same routes at the same time) and I will tell you that TE can sling it with velocity.
He had just as much zip as the ball JP was throwing and I watch several of these drills on 2 different days. Anyways thats what I saw!
After watching bothe TE and JP in camp I will say this...
I was next to my brother watching both QB's at the same time (Both will drop back at the same time, throw the same routes at the same time) and I will tell you that TE can sling it with velocity.
He had just as much zip as the ball JP was throwing and I watch several of these drills on 2 different days. Anyways thats what I saw!
As far as camp goes, I will say this. In camp, JP looked much better than TE. In camp JP looked pretty decent, not great. Additionally, I remember JP's first day in camp his rookie year, he looked TERRIBLE. TE actually looked very well for a rookie. Take it for what its worth.
I am a TE supporter, and hope he does well. We are still a long long way from seeing if he is the answer.
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